The Ford Barn

Marv 119 · 01-25-2013, 05:32 PM

Can anyone tell by these pics if this is a 26 or 27?As of now these are the only pics i have.

jackdaron · 01-25-2013, 06:03 PM

26-27 Model T coupe. Would need serial Number on side of block just above water inlet to tell more.

Willie in Houston · 01-25-2013, 06:09 PM

I do not think there are many differences.
Have you tried looking at the serial number on the block. Also there is supposed to be a serial number on the frame somewhere near where the passengers feet would be.
(Remove floor boards first)

yachtsmanbill · 01-25-2013, 06:29 PM

Generally, at a glance Id say its a 1927 with the cross bar between the headlights. The 1927 used pretty much exclusively a vaporizer carburetor which has the throttle rod go across the top of the block. A true 1927 block wont have the rod "hole" between cylinders 2&3 nor the hole for the same through the valve cover. Also on that note, the throttle shaft alongside the steering column will only have on hole for a pin for the linkage arm towards the top just below the springs. If theres another hole down lower for the rod that goes through the block, then all bets are off. The '27 didnt have the lower hole but tons of parts have been swapped out over the last 85 years.
USUALLY, the 27s all had wire wheels getting tooled up for the 1928 model A run, but I think wood wheels were still available.
The block number will tell a lot and so will the frame number stamped on the rail top just inside the passenger door. That one is usually harder to read as the rail sprang when stamped. ws

Marv 119 · 01-25-2013, 11:03 PM

Thanks for the info.I guess i will have to wait as i won't have access to it for a while.I was just hoping to get started on getting title info and need to know for sure the year.
Thanks Marv

Steve Jelf · 01-26-2013, 12:01 AM

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Yep, that frame number is what you want. That will pin down the date of manufacture.

Farmallcub49 · 01-26-2013, 10:07 PM

Marv,

I would say Bill is right with the headlight crossbar being the best clue in the pictures. I think it is interesting that they took a 25 or earlier sediment bulb and screwed it into the tank; I am sure it work so that was all that mattered.

Also, welcome and it is great to see another Minnesotan. I am in St Joseph and stock new reproduction parts along with lots of used parts. We also do restoration and repair work; so we have lots of knowledge I can share if you have any questions once you start. I am past president of the Great Northern Model T Club and its current secretary. If you email me at [email protected], I can forward you our next newsletter and you are welcome to come to any our events and join if you like.

Andy

Marv 119 · 01-27-2013, 10:06 AM

Andy Email sent

rotenjon · 01-27-2013, 11:27 PM

check the package try behind the seat, if its metal its a 26,Henry went back to wood in 27.

t42 · 01-29-2013, 11:49 AM

Marv,
The 26/27 seat riser and pan under the front seat are different also.

yachtsmanbill · 01-29-2013, 11:53 AM

I removed a 26 trunk pan for my 27 and it was way different too. I still think the factory was trying to transition to the Model A with new bending/stretching techniques with sheet metal etc... ws

t42 · 02-04-2013, 10:24 AM

Marv,
Got any more pics, or info?

Marv 119 · 02-04-2013, 06:04 PM

No more pics yet. I hope to get the motor numbers and a few more pics the end of next week. It is in a garage that i don't have ready access to.
Marv

bgarrett · 02-20-2013, 07:21 PM

There were differences in the sizes of the holes in the inner doors and the parts around the rear window.

01-25-2013, 06:03 PM	#2
jackdaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brownsburg,In. Posts: 383	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? 26-27 Model T coupe. Would need serial Number on side of block just above water inlet to tell more.

01-25-2013, 06:09 PM	#3
Willie in Houston Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 252	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? I do not think there are many differences. Have you tried looking at the serial number on the block. Also there is supposed to be a serial number on the frame somewhere near where the passengers feet would be. (Remove floor boards first)

01-25-2013, 06:29 PM	#4
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Generally, at a glance Id say its a 1927 with the cross bar between the headlights. The 1927 used pretty much exclusively a vaporizer carburetor which has the throttle rod go across the top of the block. A true 1927 block wont have the rod "hole" between cylinders 2&3 nor the hole for the same through the valve cover. Also on that note, the throttle shaft alongside the steering column will only have on hole for a pin for the linkage arm towards the top just below the springs. If theres another hole down lower for the rod that goes through the block, then all bets are off. The '27 didnt have the lower hole but tons of parts have been swapped out over the last 85 years. USUALLY, the 27s all had wire wheels getting tooled up for the 1928 model A run, but I think wood wheels were still available. The block number will tell a lot and so will the frame number stamped on the rail top just inside the passenger door. That one is usually harder to read as the rail sprang when stamped. ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

01-25-2013, 11:03 PM	#5
Marv 119 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Aitkin,Mn Posts: 17	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Thanks for the info.I guess i will have to wait as i won't have access to it for a while.I was just hoping to get started on getting title info and need to know for sure the year. Thanks Marv

01-26-2013, 12:01 AM	#6
Steve Jelf Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Parkerfield KS Posts: 526	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yep, that frame number is what you want. That will pin down the date of manufacture.

01-26-2013, 10:07 PM	#7
Farmallcub49 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St Joseph,MN Posts: 278	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Marv, I would say Bill is right with the headlight crossbar being the best clue in the pictures. I think it is interesting that they took a 25 or earlier sediment bulb and screwed it into the tank; I am sure it work so that was all that mattered. Also, welcome and it is great to see another Minnesotan. I am in St Joseph and stock new reproduction parts along with lots of used parts. We also do restoration and repair work; so we have lots of knowledge I can share if you have any questions once you start. I am past president of the Great Northern Model T Club and its current secretary. If you email me at [email protected], I can forward you our next newsletter and you are welcome to come to any our events and join if you like. Andy __________________ 'OSO HANDY RESTORATIONS Specializing in Model T Fords 320-293-1953

01-27-2013, 10:06 AM	#8
Marv 119 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Aitkin,Mn Posts: 17	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Andy Email sent

01-27-2013, 11:27 PM	#9
rotenjon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? check the package try behind the seat, if its metal its a 26,Henry went back to wood in 27.

01-29-2013, 11:49 AM	#10
t42 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MN. Posts: 253	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Marv, The 26/27 seat riser and pan under the front seat are different also.

01-29-2013, 11:53 AM	#11
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? I removed a 26 trunk pan for my 27 and it was way different too. I still think the factory was trying to transition to the Model A with new bending/stretching techniques with sheet metal etc... ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-04-2013, 10:24 AM	#12
t42 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MN. Posts: 253	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? Marv, Got any more pics, or info?

02-04-2013, 06:04 PM	#13
Marv 119 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Aitkin,Mn Posts: 17	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? No more pics yet. I hope to get the motor numbers and a few more pics the end of next week. It is in a garage that i don't have ready access to. Marv

02-20-2013, 07:21 PM	#14
bgarrett Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 246	Re: 26 or 27 coupe? There were differences in the sizes of the holes in the inner doors and the parts around the rear window.