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my4dv8 · 12-05-2014, 06:44 PM

We are building a 296 flathead and wish to keep the same Eddie Meyer twin hi rise manifold. What are the thoughts on running two 48 strombergs over two 97 strombergs. Before you say run 3 carbs , we want to keep the same look we have at present.

cmbrucew · 12-05-2014, 07:07 PM

Not much Ford in that picture.
Bruce

Kahuna · 12-05-2014, 07:12 PM

I think it'll be great. I also like the offset 36 air cleaners

KiWinUS · 12-05-2014, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbrucew

Not much Ford in that picture.
Bruce

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder !!!!
A "Stunning Ford Flathead "!!!
Thank you .......
go for it !
All it needs is a KiWi-L100 cam
Cheers
Tony

Ol' Ron · 12-05-2014, 08:32 PM

Should work OK, depends on the application. Street rod yes, dragster no.

Bored&Stroked · 12-05-2014, 08:57 PM

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I'm building a very similar combination for a hot street car (but 284 cubes). It is a heavily ported engine, 1.72" intakes, big roller cam , etc - really a total race motor (but not big on cubes) . . . I can't help myself!

The 48's are a bit bigger than the 97's - which is why I'm giving them a try. To me, the bigger issue is the design of the early EM manifold - probably isn't going to make much of a difference which carbs you run (I'm doing the same thing, original EM manifold of the same design).

Just for the heck of it, I'm going to put my car on a chassis dyno and screw around with a set of 97's, 48's and Holley 2110's (probably what we both really need). I'll also port the EM manifold and see if I can improve the flow.

My guess is that I'll see very minimal differences between all three sets of carbs - but what the heck, will be fun to have some REAL numbers to share!

Take care . . . ping me if you need additional information.

B&S

PeterC · 12-05-2014, 09:09 PM

I'm happy with the performance and look achieved with the twin 48 Strombergs - they flow higher CFM needed for my application - 284 ci Flathead.

uncle max · 12-05-2014, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterC

I'm happy with the performance and look achieved with the twin 48 Strombergs - they flow higher CFM needed for my application - 284 ci Flathead.

I am uncle max and I approve of this post.

Pete · 12-05-2014, 10:53 PM

The vintage manifold doesn't match the modern heads.
That's just me though.

my4dv8 · 12-05-2014, 11:53 PM

Ha but it's what you can't see, it has an Cam techniques L100 cam , and this motor is going in another 32 we are building, and the new motor will have the "kiwi-L100 " cam we purchased off you.looking forward to hearing it rumble.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiWinUS

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder !!!!
A "Stunning Ford Flathead "!!!
Thank you .......
go for it !
All it needs is a KiWi-L100 cam
Cheers
Tony

my4dv8 · 12-05-2014, 11:55 PM

Excellent keep the barn posted on progress.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

I'm building a very similar combination for a hot street car (but 284 cubes). It is a heavily ported engine, 1.72" intakes, big roller cam , etc - really a total race motor (but not big on cubes) . . . I can't help myself!

The 48's are a bit bigger than the 97's - which is why I'm giving them a try. To me, the bigger issue is the design of the early EM manifold - probably isn't going to make much of a difference which carbs you run (I'm doing the same thing, original EM manifold of the same design).

Just for the heck of it, I'm going to put my car on a chassis dyno and screw around with a set of 97's, 48's and Holley 2110's (probably what we both really need). I'll also port the EM manifold and see if I can improve the flow.

My guess is that I'll see very minimal differences between all three sets of carbs - but what the heck, will be fun to have some REAL numbers to share!

Take care . . . ping me if you need additional information.

B&S

my4dv8 · 12-06-2014, 12:02 AM

Stock bodied all original 32 3W a hot rod for longer than it's been stock. all old ford or aftermarket ford parts, in essence a vintage hot rod , in our eyes anyway,
QUOTE=cmbrucew;992795]Not much Ford in that picture.
Bruce[/QUOTE]

Pete · 12-06-2014, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my4dv8

Ha but it's what you can't see, it has an Cam techniques L100 cam , and this motor is going in another 32 we are building, and the new motor will have the "kiwi-L100 " cam we purchased off you.looking forward to hearing it rumble.

I may not be reading that right but I don't do L100's.
I don't like to infringe on Tony's business.

my4dv8 · 12-06-2014, 02:05 AM

Apologies Pete if I got something wrong but My reply was intended for Tony who has done the hard yards developing the Kiwi-L100 cam.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

I may not be reading that right but I don't do L100's.
I don't like to infringe on Tony's business.

Mart · 12-06-2014, 04:45 AM

Tough crowd.

JWL · 12-06-2014, 05:10 AM

There will be almost no performance difference from the 97 to the 48. Use whatever you have. As previously written about---for best results you need more on a different intake.

36tbird · 12-06-2014, 09:08 AM

I am running a 48 in the middle with the outer 97's dummied up on a .060 over 8BA Ford crank. With the original PV and jets it was way rich so I jetted it down as per Uncle Max's recommendations. So, with two, I think you might be rich if they are jetted stock. My 2 cents worth.

Ol' Ron · 12-06-2014, 11:30 AM

The 294/L-100 is running again and has over 1000 miles on it now. We have uncle max 97's at each end and a 48 in the middle. After Richard did his tune up the truck will light em up with a rolling start on just the 48, very impressive. I have the progressive set up to give 1/2 throttle on the 48, before the secondary 97's start to open. This limits them to about 3/4 throttle. But I don't think if will affect street performance and is nicer to drive.

Pete · 12-06-2014, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

The 294/L-100 is running again and has over 1000 miles on it now. We have uncle max 97's at each end and a 48 in the middle. After Richard did his tune up the truck will light em up with a rolling start on just the 48, very impressive. I have the progressive set up to give 1/2 throttle on the 48, before the secondary 97's start to open. This limits them to about 3/4 throttle. But I don't think if will affect street performance and is nicer to drive.

Maybe the owner just can't stand the neck wrenching torque an engine like that is capable of but it seems like a waste to limit it to partial throttle otherwise.

Ol' Ron · 12-06-2014, 06:08 PM

Partial throttle?? If I really wanted to get some power from the engine I'd run a 600 cfm 4 bl. If it wasn't for Max, that's what would be on it. Runs fine for a street machine.

12-05-2014, 07:07 PM	#2
cmbrucew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North of sandy ago, CA. Posts: 2,080	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. Not much Ford in that picture. Bruce __________________ Works good Lasts long time

12-05-2014, 07:12 PM	#3
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. I think it'll be great. I also like the offset 36 air cleaners

12-05-2014, 08:32 PM	#5
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. Should work OK, depends on the application. Street rod yes, dragster no.

12-05-2014, 08:57 PM	#6
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,906	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'm building a very similar combination for a hot street car (but 284 cubes). It is a heavily ported engine, 1.72" intakes, big roller cam , etc - really a total race motor (but not big on cubes) . . . I can't help myself! The 48's are a bit bigger than the 97's - which is why I'm giving them a try. To me, the bigger issue is the design of the early EM manifold - probably isn't going to make much of a difference which carbs you run (I'm doing the same thing, original EM manifold of the same design). Just for the heck of it, I'm going to put my car on a chassis dyno and screw around with a set of 97's, 48's and Holley 2110's (probably what we both really need). I'll also port the EM manifold and see if I can improve the flow. My guess is that I'll see very minimal differences between all three sets of carbs - but what the heck, will be fun to have some REAL numbers to share! Take care . . . ping me if you need additional information. B&S

12-05-2014, 10:53 PM	#9
Pete BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,423	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. The vintage manifold doesn't match the modern heads. That's just me though.

12-06-2014, 12:02 AM	#12
my4dv8 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,143	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. Stock bodied all original 32 3W a hot rod for longer than it's been stock. all old ford or aftermarket ford parts, in essence a vintage hot rod , in our eyes anyway, QUOTE=cmbrucew;992795]Not much Ford in that picture. Bruce[/QUOTE]

12-06-2014, 04:45 AM	#15
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,239	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. Tough crowd.

12-06-2014, 05:10 AM	#16
JWL Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fitzgerald, Georgia Posts: 2,204	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. There will be almost no performance difference from the 97 to the 48. Use whatever you have. As previously written about---for best results you need more on a different intake.

12-06-2014, 09:08 AM	#17
36tbird Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: nw SanAntonio, TX Posts: 940	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. I am running a 48 in the middle with the outer 97's dummied up on a .060 over 8BA Ford crank. With the original PV and jets it was way rich so I jetted it down as per Uncle Max's recommendations. So, with two, I think you might be rich if they are jetted stock. My 2 cents worth.

12-06-2014, 11:30 AM	#18
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. The 294/L-100 is running again and has over 1000 miles on it now. We have uncle max 97's at each end and a 48 in the middle. After Richard did his tune up the truck will light em up with a rolling start on just the 48, very impressive. I have the progressive set up to give 1/2 throttle on the 48, before the secondary 97's start to open. This limits them to about 3/4 throttle. But I don't think if will affect street performance and is nicer to drive.

12-06-2014, 06:08 PM	#20
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: 296 flathead , 48 strombergs. Partial throttle?? If I really wanted to get some power from the engine I'd run a 600 cfm 4 bl. If it wasn't for Max, that's what would be on it. Runs fine for a street machine.