The Ford Barn

Bob Bidonde · 02-18-2026, 10:42 AM

I maintain records for the Victoria Association about the surviving 190-A's. Your 190-A is a Leather-Back which is the earlier body style of the Victoria. On record are surviving Victorias with 3-digit Murray body numbers dating back to production in the first quarter of 1930. So apparently there was a stockpile of Victorias available for their initial sales release. So the frame number on your car should be an indicator of when it was assembled at a Ford plant, but no earlier than 1930. Also, the Victoria's frame is unique because it has brackets for that body style.

02-18-2026, 10:42 AM	#15
Bob Bidonde Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,379	Re: Frame numbers stamped I maintain records for the Victoria Association about the surviving 190-A's. Your 190-A is a Leather-Back which is the earlier body style of the Victoria. On record are surviving Victorias with 3-digit Murray body numbers dating back to production in the first quarter of 1930. So apparently there was a stockpile of Victorias available for their initial sales release. So the frame number on your car should be an indicator of when it was assembled at a Ford plant, but no earlier than 1930. Also, the Victoria's frame is unique because it has brackets for that body style. __________________ Bob Bidonde