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liteppie · 03-14-2015, 10:33 PM

Can I remove a damaged oil pan from a 1939 ford with a 1946 ford v8 in it without lifting the engine?

liteppie · 03-14-2015, 10:35 PM

Can a damages oil pan in a 1939 ford sedan be removed without lifting engine?

WestCoast · 03-14-2015, 10:48 PM

my info says you have to raise engine from 35 to 48 to remove the oil pan

FrankWest · 03-15-2015, 08:52 AM

Not sure, But take a look under the car to see what is in the way if you try to remove the pan.
Seems strange that there is not some way to remove something in the way rather than taking the engine out.....But could be the case..I guess.
Note: One book I had had two ways to remove the pan on my 1933
One was to raised the front of the engine and the other was to bend down the wishbone. I chose to bend down the wishbone. And the engine splash pans.

Again.....Get under your car and look and obtain a few publications on the year car you have.
Remember....There's more than one way to skin a cat. But why would anyone want to skin a poor puddy cat?

Kube · 03-15-2015, 09:15 AM

You MUST raise the engine as far as you are able. Remove the fuel pump and stand - that will allow the engine to go a bit higher prior to the cowl becoming an interference.
Remove both the transmission and engine mounts as well.
Remove the dip stick tube.
Once you have the pan loose, rotate the crankshaft until the forward most
counter balance is in the "up" position".

This is not a fun task but can be done.

And please, once you have lifted the engine, place blocks between the water pump (engine mounts) and frame prior to getting your hands in any place that should the engine "fall", you are not injured.

FrankWest · 03-15-2015, 10:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube

You MUST raise the engine as far as you are able. Remove the fuel pump and stand - that will allow the engine to go a bit higher prior to the cowl becoming an interference.
Remove both the transmission and engine mounts as well.
Remove the dip stick tube.
Once you have the pan loose, rotate the crankshaft until the forward most
counter balance is in the "up" position".

This is not a fun task but can be done.

And please, once you have lifted the engine, place blocks between the water pump (engine mounts) and frame prior to getting your hands in any place that should the engine "fall", you are not injured.

WOW! and I thought it was a job to removed the pan on my 33

liteppie · 03-15-2015, 04:17 PM

Thanks for all the advice, sounds like a real chore to do this. Also any advice how to install rear glass alone on the '39 sedan?

39flyer · 03-15-2015, 05:27 PM

See my post dated 3-4-2015. I did do it myself so it can be done. Follow the directions in the post.

39 Tudo rear window removal
39flyer

liteppie · 03-15-2015, 05:46 PM

I'm referring to installation of rear windows above the trunk on a '39 ford sedan!

Kube · 03-15-2015, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liteppie

I'm referring to installation of rear windows above the trunk on a '39 ford sedan!

This can be done alone if your side (quarter) windows are not as yet installed but truly is much easier with two guys. You really need one guy on the inside of the car to apply pressure to the glass while the guy on the outside, pulls the cord and subsequently seats the glass / rubber.

liteppie · 03-15-2015, 07:20 PM

Thanks, I figured as much, I have no help!

4ford · 03-15-2015, 07:52 PM

I have a 1941 and did remove the oil pan without lifting the motor.

the starter has to come out. one or both tie rods needs to be lowered. if I rember right its a tight fit coming down. and I think the oil pump had to be removed and let it drop in the pan and it all slid out good..
going back in position oil pan and then install the pump there is room.

good luck
and remember have fun!!

Kube · 03-16-2015, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ford

I have a 1941 and did remove the oil pan without lifting the motor.

the starter has to come out. one or both tie rods needs to be lowered. if I rember right its a tight fit coming down. and I think the oil pump had to be removed and let it drop in the pan and it all slid out good..
going back in position oil pan and then install the pump there is room.

good luck
and remember have fun!!

1941 is not the same.

03-14-2015, 10:33 PM	#1
liteppie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 10	Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford Can I remove a damaged oil pan from a 1939 ford with a 1946 ford v8 in it without lifting the engine?

03-14-2015, 10:35 PM	#2
liteppie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 10	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford Can a damages oil pan in a 1939 ford sedan be removed without lifting engine?

03-14-2015, 10:48 PM	#3
WestCoast Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: oroville calif Posts: 892	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford my info says you have to raise engine from 35 to 48 to remove the oil pan

03-15-2015, 08:52 AM	#4
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,157	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford Not sure, But take a look under the car to see what is in the way if you try to remove the pan. Seems strange that there is not some way to remove something in the way rather than taking the engine out.....But could be the case..I guess. Note: One book I had had two ways to remove the pan on my 1933 One was to raised the front of the engine and the other was to bend down the wishbone. I chose to bend down the wishbone. And the engine splash pans. Again.....Get under your car and look and obtain a few publications on the year car you have. Remember....There's more than one way to skin a cat. But why would anyone want to skin a poor puddy cat? Last edited by FrankWest; 03-15-2015 at 08:58 AM.

03-15-2015, 09:15 AM	#5
Kube Super Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 10,548	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford You MUST raise the engine as far as you are able. Remove the fuel pump and stand - that will allow the engine to go a bit higher prior to the cowl becoming an interference. Remove both the transmission and engine mounts as well. Remove the dip stick tube. Once you have the pan loose, rotate the crankshaft until the forward most counter balance is in the "up" position". This is not a fun task but can be done. And please, once you have lifted the engine, place blocks between the water pump (engine mounts) and frame prior to getting your hands in any place that should the engine "fall", you are not injured. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

03-15-2015, 04:17 PM	#7
liteppie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 10	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford Thanks for all the advice, sounds like a real chore to do this. Also any advice how to install rear glass alone on the '39 sedan?

03-15-2015, 05:27 PM	#8
39flyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 109	Re: Rear side window replacement See my post dated 3-4-2015. I did do it myself so it can be done. Follow the directions in the post. 39 Tudo rear window removal 39flyer

03-15-2015, 05:46 PM	#9
liteppie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 10	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford I'm referring to installation of rear windows above the trunk on a '39 ford sedan!

03-15-2015, 07:20 PM	#11
liteppie Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 10	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford Thanks, I figured as much, I have no help!

03-15-2015, 07:52 PM	#12
4ford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eagan mn Posts: 132	Re: Removal of damaged oil pan 1939 ford I have a 1941 and did remove the oil pan without lifting the motor. the starter has to come out. one or both tie rods needs to be lowered. if I rember right its a tight fit coming down. and I think the oil pump had to be removed and let it drop in the pan and it all slid out good.. going back in position oil pan and then install the pump there is room. good luck and remember have fun!!