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PeteVS · 12-31-2011, 06:46 PM

What are some ways to mount a traditional Early V8 drive line in a Model A without using a '32 K member? I know an F1 crossmember works out well, but are there other choices? Got photos? Thanks!!

296 V8 · 12-31-2011, 07:21 PM

Steel is traditional …. make something. Wouldn’t it be nice to remove the trans without taking the motor lose anyway?

Barry WNY · 12-31-2011, 08:10 PM

later X member

Mart · 12-31-2011, 08:12 PM

Not using the 32 k-member is a good idea if you want to use anything other than an early Ford 3-speed. If a 5 speed is on the cards the K-member needs so much cutting it's not worth using.

Mart.

Bassman/NZ · 12-31-2011, 11:02 PM

This was my solution.

PeteVS · 01-01-2012, 12:52 AM

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Bassman: Is your picture looking towards the front of the car or towards the rear??

Bassman/NZ · 01-01-2012, 01:26 AM

Hi Pete,
looking toward the rear.
Couple more.

Barry WNY · 01-01-2012, 06:17 AM

Hi Bassman, just wondering, was it not possable to make a mount on the other side for the park brake? I narrowed the body to follow the frame rails so you have more room down there than I do, just wondering if it was still comfortable like that. I thought making up the park brake was more of a pain than making pedal & bellcrank mounting.

Bassman/NZ · 01-01-2012, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry WNY

Hi Bassman, just wondering, was it not possable to make a mount on the other side for the park brake? I narrowed the body to follow the frame rails so you have more room down there than I do, just wondering if it was still comfortable like that. I thought making up the park brake was more of a pain than making pedal & bellcrank mounting.

I made the bellcrank set up in one of the above pics because I'm a miserable sod and only use what's cheap or free. The pedal assy was free so I had to work around it. I had a pair of Speedway rear spring hanger brackets lying around, so I used that and it's teflon bushings as the basis of the crank. Works fine after some tweaking. I better add I'm using the V8 park brake cable system.

Bob/Ohio · 01-01-2012, 06:43 PM

Pete,
Look in my "Profile" and I have a couple of pics of my frame. I left the stock "A" cross member and added the "x" from pieces from a 48 frame. Works for me.

Bob

Bassman/NZ · 01-01-2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob/Ohio

Pete,
Look in my "Profile" and I have a couple of pics of my frame. I left the stock "A" cross member and added the "x" from pieces from a 48 frame. Works for me.

Bob

I wanted to use the stock A crossmember too, and made a couple of different trans mounts, but they were not to my liking, so I built the one you see. If I was to do it again I would persevere with the stock crossmember.

columbiA · 01-01-2012, 08:31 PM

In ,64 I put a C59A in a A chassie by useing a 37 X member.I had to notch & lower the centre section to have the right height for the ball socket for the lengthened radius rods.I also used stock steering by welding on a steering mounting section from a junk frame & then cutting out part of original frame in order to move steering box over to clear V8.

PeteVS · 01-01-2012, 08:37 PM

Thanks guys! When spring comes, I'm gonna have to drag out my "mock up" frame (the one in my avatar,) A rear, '48 pedals, trans case and a trans mount to see where everything is. Then, I'll go from there.

bobbooth · 01-02-2012, 05:37 AM

you can Use a 33/34 "K" member which will also allow you to use the wishbone you just have to do a little fab work to both the "K" member and the mounte for the 3 speed btu simple really.

cut the rails of the "K"member to allow them to taper up to the "A"frame

weld them up

hotrodfreak · 01-02-2012, 09:33 AM

I like the model 40 sliced X member best, looks good with real Henry parts.

Bob/Ohio · 01-02-2012, 08:47 PM

Posted a few more pics today of my AV8 project. You can see more of the rear portion of my "X", which I tied into the frame at the point I cut the "Z" in it.

Bob

CT AV8 · 01-15-2012, 04:00 PM

Pete,
What did you end up doing with the '32 style AV8 K-member you fabricated?
Not going with a flathead on your project?

PeteVS · 01-15-2012, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT AV8

Pete,
What did you end up doing with the '32 style AV8 K-member you fabricated?
Not going with a flathead on your project?

The AV8 project I was working on got put on back burner this year due to working on my brother's '32. Then, he expressed interest in doing another A and I was looking for options to avoid cutting up the original K member that I had bought a while ago and built the new K to avoid cutting it up. (I also have a fondness for motors painted up like '52 flat heads. I have one in my fiberglass bodied coupe.)

CT AV8 · 01-16-2012, 11:10 AM

Pete-
The other thing to consider if your using an early Ford V-8, without stating the obvious, is the pedal selection. That goes hand in hand with k/member, trans mount. We used a set of '32 pedals as per Vern's B-T roadster and it was a nice fit, but they're getting hard to find and $. I know some guys like to use a '39 pedal set up, but you loose most of the driver side part of the k-member going that way.

pedal progress 002.jpg

12-31-2011, 06:46 PM	#1
PeteVS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FP, NJ Posts: 2,828	AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? What are some ways to mount a traditional Early V8 drive line in a Model A without using a '32 K member? I know an F1 crossmember works out well, but are there other choices? Got photos? Thanks!! __________________ Don't never get rid of nuthin!

12-31-2011, 07:21 PM	#2
296 V8 BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: nor~cal Posts: 455	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Steel is traditional …. make something. Wouldn’t it be nice to remove the trans without taking the motor lose anyway?

12-31-2011, 08:12 PM	#4
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,239	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Not using the 32 k-member is a good idea if you want to use anything other than an early Ford 3-speed. If a 5 speed is on the cards the K-member needs so much cutting it's not worth using. Mart.

12-31-2011, 11:02 PM	#5
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? This was my solution.

01-01-2012, 12:52 AM	#6
PeteVS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FP, NJ Posts: 2,828	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Bassman: Is your picture looking towards the front of the car or towards the rear?? __________________ Don't never get rid of nuthin!

01-01-2012, 01:26 AM	#7
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Hi Pete, looking toward the rear. Couple more.

01-01-2012, 06:17 AM	#8
Barry WNY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sinclairville NY Posts: 230	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Hi Bassman, just wondering, was it not possable to make a mount on the other side for the park brake? I narrowed the body to follow the frame rails so you have more room down there than I do, just wondering if it was still comfortable like that. I thought making up the park brake was more of a pain than making pedal & bellcrank mounting.

01-01-2012, 06:43 PM	#10
Bob/Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.E.Ohio Posts: 225	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Pete, Look in my "Profile" and I have a couple of pics of my frame. I left the stock "A" cross member and added the "x" from pieces from a 48 frame. Works for me. Bob

01-01-2012, 08:31 PM	#12
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? In ,64 I put a C59A in a A chassie by useing a 37 X member.I had to notch & lower the centre section to have the right height for the ball socket for the lengthened radius rods.I also used stock steering by welding on a steering mounting section from a junk frame & then cutting out part of original frame in order to move steering box over to clear V8.

01-01-2012, 08:37 PM	#13
PeteVS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: FP, NJ Posts: 2,828	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Thanks guys! When spring comes, I'm gonna have to drag out my "mock up" frame (the one in my avatar,) A rear, '48 pedals, trans case and a trans mount to see where everything is. Then, I'll go from there. __________________ Don't never get rid of nuthin!

01-02-2012, 05:37 AM	#14
bobbooth Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: in the past!! Posts: 35	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? you can Use a 33/34 "K" member which will also allow you to use the wishbone you just have to do a little fab work to both the "K" member and the mounte for the 3 speed btu simple really. cut the rails of the "K"member to allow them to taper up to the "A"frame weld them up

01-02-2012, 09:33 AM	#15
hotrodfreak Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central CA Posts: 339	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? I like the model 40 sliced X member best, looks good with real Henry parts.

01-02-2012, 08:47 PM	#16
Bob/Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.E.Ohio Posts: 225	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Posted a few more pics today of my AV8 project. You can see more of the rear portion of my "X", which I tied into the frame at the point I cut the "Z" in it. Bob

01-15-2012, 04:00 PM	#17
CT AV8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cos Cob, CT Posts: 295	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Pete, What did you end up doing with the '32 style AV8 K-member you fabricated? Not going with a flathead on your project?

01-16-2012, 11:10 AM	#19
CT AV8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cos Cob, CT Posts: 295	Re: AV8 alternate to using a '32 K member? Pete- The other thing to consider if your using an early Ford V-8, without stating the obvious, is the pedal selection. That goes hand in hand with k/member, trans mount. We used a set of '32 pedals as per Vern's B-T roadster and it was a nice fit, but they're getting hard to find and $. I know some guys like to use a '39 pedal set up, but you loose most of the driver side part of the k-member going that way. pedal progress 002.jpg