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Old 06-02-2026, 06:24 AM   #1
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Default The English de Luxe phaeton at Gilmore .

I have seen several fleeting views of the car most attention being on Edisons no i phaeton and quite rightly so .The phaeton can be clearly seen to have undergone an American restoration as English features been removed ( in all innocence ) The fender lamps have gone and replaced by cowl lights which were not legal in England . Cowl lights are not in the English parts book and no English car ever had them . English head lamps had no Ford Twolite script on the top as they only ever had a single bulb reflector . The fender lights were a legal requirement . The head lamp lenses used the USA mold so said Ford Twolite but were the same violet colour as Model T and are very pretty with a good clean reflector . The original headlamps have most likely been replaced as over restored as the script was polished out I do have a correct pair of 31 headlamps which I could donate I will get my son to post a picture hopefully .

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Old 06-02-2026, 11:13 AM   #2
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Default Re: The English de Luxe phaeton at Gilmore .

Car was donated by Tom Mack
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Default Re: The English de Luxe phaeton at Gilmore .

John: I remember your detailed comments in the September 2017 issue of the MAFFI publication, "The "A" Preserver" where you list many of the non-English discrepancies on that Phaeton in the MAFFi museum.

If you missed that issue of "The "A" Preserver", it is available online as a PDF file at this link: https://www.maffi.org/WSContent/Newsletter/201709.pdf (Note that the article starts on the front page and continues on page 4.)

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Default Re: The English de Luxe phaeton at Gilmore .

Photos of this car in the UK in 1963 show it had neither cowl lights nor fender lights at that time. An extensive article about this car's history was published in MAFCGB "Quail" magazine February 2022. If anyone one is interested I can you copy.
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Default Re: The English de Luxe phaeton at Gilmore .

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If you missed that issue of "The "A" Preserver", it is available online as a PDF file at this link: https://www.maffi.org/WSContent/Newsletter/201709.pdf (Note that the article starts on the front page and continues on page 4.)

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Just for veracity the portrait in page 1 of this pdf is captioned "Percival Perry 1878". It certtianly isn't ! Perry was born in 1878! Wiki via Google lens says it's Henry James Ford , an American political scientist, journalist, university professor, and government official.
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Just for veracity the portrait in page 1 of this pdf is captioned "Percival Perry 1878". It certtianly isn't ! Perry was born in 1878! Wiki via Google lens says it's Henry James Ford , an American political scientist, journalist, university professor, and government official.

Yeah, good eye! 👀 Here is a correct portrait of Sir Percival Perry:




....or this one:



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