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Old 02-08-2015, 02:12 PM   #1
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Default Installation of Temp Gauge

I now see there are other posts regarding this topic.

One question... Is the APCO gauge mechanical or electronic?

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Old 02-08-2015, 02:34 PM   #2
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May I piggy back on your question and ask about a temp. gauge with a tube from the sensor to the gauge? How can I repair it if need be, it apparently doesn't indicate. I'm going to pull the sensor and submerge it in hot water. If it works I'm fine, but if there is no rise in the gauge, what next? Thanks
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That is not a wire, it is a tube that senses pressure with heat. Once you cut it, you now have a wall ornament.
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That's what I thought! Just like my MGA gauge
need a pretty big hole to run the cable through the fire wall... ick.
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I now see there are other posts regarding this topic.

One question... Is the APCO gauge mechanical or electronic?

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BD, did you say that you installed the sensor probe in the inlet side of the block?
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May I piggy back on your question and ask about a temp. gauge with a tube from the sensor to the gauge? How can I repair it if need be, it apparently doesn't indicate. I'm going to pull the sensor and submerge it in hot water. If it works I'm fine, but if there is no rise in the gauge, what next? Thanks

http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge
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Running thru the floor boards many holes would save firewall extra hole
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BD, did you say that you installed the sensor probe in the inlet side of the block?
Will install probe in upper inlet hose
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Will install probe in upper inlet hose
the upper hose is the outlet
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Running thru the floor boards many holes would save firewall extra hole
That might work... seen a couple posts one going alone side of steering box.

Also saw a pic where someone stuck through at the terminal block but no detail on how ?

Closer to the speedo the better.

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the upper hose is the outlet

OOPS my mistake... O.F.S.
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i would run it through the toe board
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why use that gauge?
The dial has a very small sweep, thus is not very accurate.
The probe is mechanical, in this case filled with ether which expands with heat. Can be troublesome
Why not use an electrical sender, that way you are only running a wire
Your FLAPS will have a bunch of temp gauges to choose from. Getting a black and white face is no problem, or whatever you choose. The sender and gauge come in one box. Large sweep= much greater accuracy. Marc H. can better explain why this is than I
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I did the hot water test of the sender unit in my top his connection, gauge worked fine, This being a car new to me I hadn't tested it before and had never seen it move much if at all. The hot water had it shoot right up the scale and it coincided reading with a thermometer I had placed in the water. I'm good to go for a while at least. Thanks for the tips on a replacement gauge when the time comes.
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why use that gauge?
The dial has a very small sweep, thus is not very accurate.
The probe is mechanical, in this case filled with ether which expands with heat. Can be troublesome
Why not use an electrical sender, that way you are only running a wire
Your FLAPS will have a bunch of temp gauges to choose from. Getting a black and white face is no problem, or whatever you choose. The sender and gauge come in one box. Large sweep= much greater accuracy. Marc H. can better explain why this is than I
What are the FLAPS that you are referring to ?
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installed Apco gauge with under instrument panel black single mount.
Fit great and looks even better.

Was able to route through terminal box with small cutout in cover. I am not putting the light in. The OEM dash light illuminates the gauge nicely.

On to next project!


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Old 02-12-2015, 08:24 AM   #18
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Here is what it looks like.


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I did the hot water test of the sender unit in my top his connection, gauge worked fine, This being a car new to me I hadn't tested it before and had never seen it move much if at all. The hot water had it shoot right up the scale and it coincided reading with a thermometer I had placed in the water. I'm good to go for a while at least. Thanks for the tips on a replacement gauge when the time comes.
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Old 02-20-2015, 09:34 PM   #20
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I put this apco in boiling water... it was dead on..
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