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Old 11-18-2014, 11:52 AM   #1
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Default 1940 ford original looking wiring harness- need help

Hello fordbarn members.
I am working on getting a survivor 40 coupe back on the road and trying to keep everything looking as correct as possible. The original wiring harness was in very poor condition. So I was searching over the classiifeds a month or so back and found one that was listed as show quality and we bought it. Well it looked good in the box but after laying it out last week to prepare to install it we found a few areas that looked to be taped up. Well a closer inspection we found melted insulation and signs of a shorted circut. When the seller was contacted about the issue. We were informed that we got a good price for what we were sent and sorry . There is no way I'm going to Install this mess and chance burning up the car. Well we are out the $200 and the seller doesn't sound like he is willing to correct the issue and back to square one. Were is the best place to look for a quality original looking harness?
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:08 PM   #2
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There are a number of good, to excellent quality wiring harness suppliers, depending on just how much you want to spend. Rhode Island Wiring, Dennis Carpenter, Bob Drake, Tyree Harris, etc.
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:14 PM   #3
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If the seller doesn't settle the problem how about posting his name? Have you tried searching his name here and on HAMB to see if he has a history? A couple of photos might be nice.

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Old 11-18-2014, 02:52 PM   #4
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Most of the suppliers buy their wiring from Chis Olsen at Class Tech in Bend, Oregon. His wiring looks just like the originals. He made my wiring harness for my '41 Merc. I had him add the wires in it for turn signals. You can't even tell the extra wires are in the harness. He does great work!
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Most of the suppliers buy their wiring from Chis Olsen at Class Tech in Bend, Oregon. His wiring looks just like the originals. He made my wiring harness for my '41 Merc. I had him add the wires in it for turn signals. You can't even tell the extra wires are in the harness. He does great work!
Glad to here that. A couple months ago I asked Tyree Harris to do something similar and he declined.
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:17 PM   #6
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Attached are the problem area's of the so called "show quality" wiring harness. The main areas that are damaged that burned the insulation are from the starter solonoid to the voltage regulator which is the main power source to the car. Some other places are spliced to repair damage. Would any of you use this is your car?. The picture with the orange cover I didn't bother to take apart after finding the other issues.
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:23 PM   #7
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Man, Guido and some of his boys need to pay that guy a friendly visit. DD
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:24 PM   #8
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Did you get pics of that wiring before you committed?
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:30 PM   #9
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I wonder how sellers like that stand to look in the mirror or sleep nights. Invite him to read these comments. I just pray for people like that.
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I think that Sacramento Vintage Ford makes them.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:50 PM   #11
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Did you get pics of that wiring before you committed?
Yes but you couldn't see any of the issues I found. He also left out all the stuff thats cut when it was removed. In the sellers words " show quality" what would you expect ? A harness with splices, burnt spots and cut off when it was removed?
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:09 PM   #12
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If the seller doesn't settle the problem how about posting his name? Have you tried searching his name here and on HAMB to see if he has a history? A couple of photos might be nice.

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Hello fordbarn members.
I am working on getting a survivor 40 coupe back on the road and trying to keep everything looking as correct as possible. The original wiring harness was in very poor condition. So I was searching over the classiifeds a month or so back and found one that was listed as show quality and we bought it. Well it looked good in the box but after laying it out last week to prepare to install it we found a few areas that looked to be taped up. Well a closer inspection we found melted insulation and signs of a shorted circut. When the seller was contacted about the issue. We were informed that we got a good price for what we were sent and sorry . There is no way I'm going to Install this mess and chance burning up the car. Well we are out the $200 and the seller doesn't sound like he is willing to correct the issue and back to square one. Were is the best place to look for a quality original looking harness?
I think it is only right to let others on this forum know who this guy is. Most of us from my experience are here to help each other. Guys like this deserve to be weeded out.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:50 PM   #14
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skidmarks, you got good answers here, lots of help.
Now you need to return the favor to us by posting the sellers name and info. Please.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:57 PM   #15
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Before I list the guys name , I'm giving him a chance to clear the problem up. As far as looking for a new harness thanks guys for the information
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:20 PM   #16
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You might try the vendors on the H.A.M.B Alliance.
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:15 AM   #17
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skid,
Go new, NOS harnesses are usually too stiff and creaky to use. The best of
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:55 AM   #18
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I truly liked dealing with Tyree Harris, although I did not have any extra wires added nor did I ask. I would contact all the people and vendors mentioned above and go with your natural instinct. I was in a very similar situation with a harness off ebay. It was "new" (my ass it was). I used the undamaged wires to add extra grounds and such with correct colors.
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Try YnZ. Not the cheapest around but outstanding stuff. IMO

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Another vote for Chris Olson in Bend. Got my wiring from him for my 40 wagon. He added turn signals to the loom. Got a Dearborn first time out. First class work.
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