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32forddump · 01-19-2013, 02:52 PM

I just found 3 n.o.s. mallory distributors with some old model t parts. Did mallory make distributors for model t's? What are they worth?

BUBBAS IGNITION · 01-19-2013, 04:08 PM

Typically Mallorys first unit for the early Fords was for the model A engine. Load up a couple picture of what you have and we will try to get you a appliction.
The Ts front cover never supported a distributor without a external gear drive of some kind...

32forddump · 02-07-2013, 06:57 PM

I have acquired the model t mallory distributors, . They are n.o.s. parts

BUBBAS IGNITION · 02-07-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 32forddump

I have acquired the model t mallory distributors, . They are n.o.s. parts

The front mount model t distributor is a great item, however the drive gears are pretty hard to find.

yachtsmanbill · 02-07-2013, 09:19 PM

Thats a raised timer not a distributor. Look at the drive gear... is it a 45 degree bevel or a counter mesh helical? Pull the cap and I think youll just find a contactor (timers are a grounding timing device) that makes contact with the cap. Post some pics of the guts and gears... I wonder what the rheostat on the cap is for??? ws

32forddump · 02-08-2013, 04:54 PM

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Here are some more pics of mallory contactor. Looks like 45 degrees like you mentioned, There are several gears to make contactor complete. I amnot sure what rheostat is for maybe someone will let us know.

yachtsmanbill · 02-08-2013, 06:50 PM

Thats pretty bizarre! The cap looks like a new day timer (plastic/bakelite with a spring loaded brush) yet theres a set of points (minus the condenser). Hmmm. That may be a dual purpose distributor / timer. The timer for running on the 32 VAC Magneto and the points for a single 6 VDC coil for easier starting.
I think that if the large brass contacts were used with a high voltage coil they wouldnt hold up. The dwell would also be immense, no?
I wonder if that rheostat sets the contact pressure on the rotor/contactor. Is there any evidence of a coil inside the large square part of the frame of the unit like maybe its a self contained magneto?
BUBBA's gonna need to pipe up on this one! Got the cam end gear to drive it? ws

jackdaron · 02-08-2013, 08:24 PM

I wonder he New Day timer just fit, and someone stuck it on there?

Doug Money · 02-08-2013, 10:26 PM

That's an original period correct e-timer.

32forddump · 02-09-2013, 07:54 AM

I have a bag with several gears, iam going to try to fit it on engine today.

Jack Innes · 02-09-2013, 09:11 AM

This looks like a distributor with the coil & likely the condenser built in to the box affair which is part of the casting. The cap is similir in design to the early Delco caps used on pre-teens Cadillac 4 cylinder cars. The rotor has a carbon brush that connects the center electrode to the respective plug wires as it turns. The rheostat looking thing is likely a spark intensifier of sorts. The dwell would not be altered by the wide cap contacts, the width assures contact throughout the spark advance movement - avoiding any degree of arking is important with this set up. The dwell is controlled by the point setting.

Below is a DELCO cap for a 1911 Cadillac; ( I need one & a rotor if anyone has anything like this)

32forddump · 02-09-2013, 04:22 PM

I was able to put the gear that i had on the camshaft this morning and it fit well.

32 chevy vett · 02-10-2013, 05:50 PM

I bought a book years ago from Don.Lang. On after market parts for the model T Ford.
It was made up from old ads back then. If some one has that book. I'am sure that. That distributor would be in it. I let a guy use mine and that was the last I saw of it.
This book was about the same size. As the Model T Service Manual.

redmodelt · 02-10-2013, 07:49 PM

If I recall it's resistance coil and was used in conjunction with a Model T coil. Many clip on distributors were able to be setup with ether a normal coil or a Model T coil.

32forddump · 02-11-2013, 08:24 AM

Iam going to hook up timer to a batttery today to see if it functions.

redmodelt · 02-11-2013, 11:07 AM

You will need a coil to check it out. The box on the front is the condenser.

yachtsmanbill · 02-11-2013, 11:17 AM

FWIW... I wouldnt use that cam gear! It looks like die cast pot metal. Take it to a gear shop as a template and get a steel gear made. It looks too good to take a chance with! HONEST!! ws

32forddump · 02-12-2013, 08:13 AM

So are you saying that I should have both gears remade out of steel?

32forddump · 02-12-2013, 08:15 AM

Thanksyou for the advice. Iam going to try to make it function today,I will hook it up to a battery and coil to see if I can get the points to spark.

redmodelt · 02-12-2013, 11:53 AM

The points only carry line voltage, 6 or 12 volts. Did you mean, spark at the plugs? Make sure the points are clean and grease free and go for it!

01-19-2013, 02:52 PM	#1
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	model t mallory distributor I just found 3 n.o.s. mallory distributors with some old model t parts. Did mallory make distributors for model t's? What are they worth? __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

01-19-2013, 04:08 PM	#2
BUBBAS IGNITION Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SPEEDWAY INDIANA Posts: 4,148	Re: model t mallory distributor Typically Mallorys first unit for the early Fords was for the model A engine. Load up a couple picture of what you have and we will try to get you a appliction. The Ts front cover never supported a distributor without a external gear drive of some kind... __________________ If it Makes Spark, we do it !!!! www.bubbasignition.com [email protected]

02-07-2013, 09:19 PM	#5
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: model t mallory distributor Thats a raised timer not a distributor. Look at the drive gear... is it a 45 degree bevel or a counter mesh helical? Pull the cap and I think youll just find a contactor (timers are a grounding timing device) that makes contact with the cap. Post some pics of the guts and gears... I wonder what the rheostat on the cap is for??? ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-08-2013, 06:50 PM	#7
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: model t mallory distributor Thats pretty bizarre! The cap looks like a new day timer (plastic/bakelite with a spring loaded brush) yet theres a set of points (minus the condenser). Hmmm. That may be a dual purpose distributor / timer. The timer for running on the 32 VAC Magneto and the points for a single 6 VDC coil for easier starting. I think that if the large brass contacts were used with a high voltage coil they wouldnt hold up. The dwell would also be immense, no? I wonder if that rheostat sets the contact pressure on the rotor/contactor. Is there any evidence of a coil inside the large square part of the frame of the unit like maybe its a self contained magneto? BUBBA's gonna need to pipe up on this one! Got the cam end gear to drive it? ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-08-2013, 08:24 PM	#8
jackdaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brownsburg,In. Posts: 383	Re: model t mallory distributor I wonder he New Day timer just fit, and someone stuck it on there?

02-08-2013, 10:26 PM	#9
Doug Money Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 350	Re: model t mallory distributor That's an original period correct e-timer.

02-09-2013, 07:54 AM	#10
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	Re: model t mallory distributor I have a bag with several gears, iam going to try to fit it on engine today. __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

02-10-2013, 05:50 PM	#13
32 chevy vett Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass. Posts: 250	Re: model t mallory distributor I bought a book years ago from Don.Lang. On after market parts for the model T Ford. It was made up from old ads back then. If some one has that book. I'am sure that. That distributor would be in it. I let a guy use mine and that was the last I saw of it. This book was about the same size. As the Model T Service Manual.

02-10-2013, 07:49 PM	#14
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,458	Re: model t mallory distributor If I recall it's resistance coil and was used in conjunction with a Model T coil. Many clip on distributors were able to be setup with ether a normal coil or a Model T coil.

02-11-2013, 08:24 AM	#15
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	Re: model t mallory distributor Iam going to hook up timer to a batttery today to see if it functions. __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

02-11-2013, 11:07 AM	#16
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,458	Re: model t mallory distributor You will need a coil to check it out. The box on the front is the condenser.

02-11-2013, 11:17 AM	#17
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: model t mallory distributor FWIW... I wouldnt use that cam gear! It looks like die cast pot metal. Take it to a gear shop as a template and get a steel gear made. It looks too good to take a chance with! HONEST!! ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-12-2013, 08:13 AM	#18
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	Re: model t mallory distributor So are you saying that I should have both gears remade out of steel? __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

02-12-2013, 08:15 AM	#19
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	Re: model t mallory distributor Thanksyou for the advice. Iam going to try to make it function today,I will hook it up to a battery and coil to see if I can get the points to spark. __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

02-12-2013, 11:53 AM	#20
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,458	Re: model t mallory distributor The points only carry line voltage, 6 or 12 volts. Did you mean, spark at the plugs? Make sure the points are clean and grease free and go for it!