people answering questions

[zzlegend]

Ah yes. Armageddon and a HO-HO. It don't get no better than that. Maybe the Steelers will be in next year.

[Huckster Dave]

I recently had a slightly heated discussion with an individual over this very topic. It resulted in my being blocked by that person. I have continued to read his very informative answers on various subjects. The man is an encyclopedia of model A knowledge. I think also that I have seen a difference in his choice of words which make for an enjoyable read. I also hope he can read this post and maybe accept my apology as I now think he can be a very nice person. I don't know if blocked means I am totally invisible or just can't PM him.
HD

[ivoryjohn]

Originally Posted by 30modelA

can i ask you guys on here why when someone needs info or ask questions about their car some guys talk down to us newer younger guest on here?

im 30 years old and im a rare breed to own an original model A, most ppl. my age just want to cut them up. we ask questions on here for help in preserving these master pieces, not to be made out as a dumbass. think back when you veterans had your first car, im pretty sure yall have asked a question or two. all i ask is remember what this forum is for. i know there were millions of T's and A's made, but eventually they will be gone. so just give respect to ppl. trying to save these beauties

]If others are like myself please remember that my skills at communicating via two finger typing and writing a complete sentence that can be understood are not the best. Most of us guys on the Barn site are admitted gearheads and not journalists nor posses the skills to get more than the basic point across. I don't know of one fellow that isn't 100% welcoming to you younger guys getting into the hobby. Y'all are the future and no disrespect is meant unless you want to chop'em up and drop a chevy in them. If that is the case you need to......well I won't go there!

Glad to answer your questions if I can spell it but do I now need to think of how to say it politically correct?

[Marco Tahtaras]

Originally Posted by ivoryjohn

Glad to answer your questions if I can spell it but do I now need to think of how to say it politically correct?

That's great (seriously), to see something put in such simple but applicable terms!

[Young_Blood]

Thanks for saying what ive been wanting to say for quite some time now without having a handful of senior citizens cyber jump me. Its kinda funny how back in "their day" hacking up a stock model A/T to build a rod to cruise or race was okay, but for us to be born and appreciate the work they had done and try our absolute best to mock even some of the smallest things they had done if even just to restore or customize a build in the easiest way is ignored or under appreciated . Not just through a forum but at car shows and cruises does it make me sick to think of how much we, the young, respect the older folk who have done it all and in a sense set the standards for us and yet from some we still get stepped on. These people should be trying to pass on what they know, and in some cases what they have not finished or may not be able to finish to us. What the hell did you older folks do when you didn't know something or needed help on your project when the internet or such car shows weren't around. This is how we operate and do things now days, with help from people around the globe brainwashing themselves with what you have created or appreciated from the start. Whether or not its restoring %100 or building straight from the heart of tradition. This is what it has become and if not passed on or respected from the ones who did it first it will eventually die out. These thoughts and belongings are possessions you cannot take with you and I hope they will all stay...

Muscle, Rat, or Street rod are not in any of our vocabulary and if anyone here is to argue with anything I have stated please pm me and I will be more than happy to explain myself in a more polite manner, that is if I have ANY respect for anyone who "looks down" on me or feels I have crossed the line in any way. I am 24 years of age building a pre-war roadster and hoping for someone to come my way chewing me out about this...Ill be waiting -YoungBlood

[fordgarage]

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Originally Posted by Young_Blood

Thanks for saying what ive been wanting to say for quite some time now without having a handful of senior citizens cyber jump me. Its kinda funny how back in "their day" hacking up a stock model A/T to build a rod to cruise or race was okay, but for us to be born and appreciate the work they had done and try our absolute best to mock even some of the smallest things they had done if even just to restore or customize a build in the easiest way is ignored or under appreciated . Not just through a forum but at car shows and cruises does it make me sick to think of how much we, the young, respect the older folk who have done it all and in a sense set the standards for us and yet from some we still get stepped on. These people should be trying to pass on what they know, and in some cases what they have not finished or may not be able to finish to us. What the hell did you older folks do when you didn't know something or needed help on your project when the internet or such car shows weren't around. This is how we operate and do things now days, with help from people around the globe brainwashing themselves with what you have created or appreciated from the start. Whether or not its restoring %100 or building straight from the heart of tradition. This is what it has become and if not passed on or respected from the ones who did it first it will eventually die out. These thoughts and belongings are possessions you cannot take with you and I hope they will all stay...

Muscle, Rat, or Street rod are not in any of our vocabulary and if anyone here is to argue with anything I have stated please pm me and I will be more than happy to explain myself in a more polite manner, that is if I have ANY respect for anyone who "looks down" on me or feels I have crossed the line in any way. I am 24 years of age building a pre-war roadster and hoping for someone to come my way chewing me out about this...Ill be waiting -YoungBlood

Sounds like you should be on the HAMB rather than Fordbarn, given your stated interests.

[Roadster62]

Why chase away someone that wants to learn Ford history? Very elitest attitude IMO. I'm 61 and more that happy to share what I've picked up over the years. Bob

Originally Posted by fordgarage

Sounds like you should be on the HAMB rather than Fordbarn, given your stated interests.

[forddaughter]

Originally Posted by 5window

Hard enough to discuss rat rods here, but don't even begin to think about posting on the HAMB. There you will quickly learn what rude really means!

those HAMB guys are EXTREMELY RUDE. I left cause I don't need that kind of crap. I can handle cranky. I live with that daily. but outright nastiness is just uncalled for.

[edzaha]

This just proves that the old addage is true, opinions are like assholes- everyones got one

[34pickup]

This is becoming drama. And that usually means the mods lock it down.

[Steve Wastler]

To add a little to Edzaha's post..

and EVERYONE at some point can be one!

Why has this become an age thing? You self proclaimed young guys need to get over it and take the chip off your shoulder

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Age doesn't matter Act like adults and don't get nit picky. Yes, I'm an old (76)hot rodder too, I've chopped, channeled, modified, done "suicide" front ends,etc, etc Anyone that's innocent of any of this stuff, let him cast the first broken cluster gear at me!----Bill W's Ghost.

[30modelA]

Originally Posted by Young_Blood

Thanks for saying what ive been wanting to say for quite some time now without having a handful of senior citizens cyber jump me. Its kinda funny how back in "their day" hacking up a stock model A/T to build a rod to cruise or race was okay, but for us to be born and appreciate the work they had done and try our absolute best to mock even some of the smallest things they had done if even just to restore or customize a build in the easiest way is ignored or under appreciated . Not just through a forum but at car shows and cruises does it make me sick to think of how much we, the young, respect the older folk who have done it all and in a sense set the standards for us and yet from some we still get stepped on. These people should be trying to pass on what they know, and in some cases what they have not finished or may not be able to finish to us. What the hell did you older folks do when you didn't know something or needed help on your project when the internet or such car shows weren't around. This is how we operate and do things now days, with help from people around the globe brainwashing themselves with what you have created or appreciated from the start. Whether or not its restoring %100 or building straight from the heart of tradition. This is what it has become and if not passed on or respected from the ones who did it first it will eventually die out. These thoughts and belongings are possessions you cannot take with you and I hope they will all stay...

Muscle, Rat, or Street rod are not in any of our vocabulary and if anyone here is to argue with anything I have stated please pm me and I will be more than happy to explain myself in a more polite manner, that is if I have ANY respect for anyone who "looks down" on me or feels I have crossed the line in any way. I am 24 years of age building a pre-war roadster and hoping for someone to come my way chewing me out about this...Ill be waiting -YoungBlood

nicely put, glad you see where im comming from, thanks for the comment

[Tom Wesenberg]

I've never seen a reply based on age, and I'm still waiting to read why the original post? What was the rude reply?

[30modelA]

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Why chase away someone that wants to learn Ford history? Very elitest attitude IMO. I'm 61 and more that happy to share what I've picked up over the years. Bob

thanks roadster for standing up for us, that comment you quoted on is the very thing i am talking about.

[zzlegend]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I've never seen a reply based on age, and I'm still waiting to read why the original post? What was the rude reply?

Me to

[Fred K-OR]

Welcome to this forum and have fun!

[WTSHNN]

Several of the responses in this thread, made by the young and old alike, instantly made me think of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

-Tim

[Craig Lewis]

I've also gone back and searched for the "rude" replies to 30modelA and can see nothing more than folks bending over backwards to help him in every posting.
With all due respect, 30modelA can you kindly enlighten us all as to what exactly jilted your sensitive side?
If I was to trust my gut feeling, I'd almost wonder if there's someone with a hidden agenda in the background of this forum who's putting certain people up to this silliness.
Now before the flame throwers open up, listen.
I bought my Model A at the tender age of 26 and endured a certain amount of belittlement blending in with outright rudeness but I fought back and learned stuff and challenged those who attacked me.
More than once I learned I wasn't as right as I thought I was... while also learning the respect of others.
(at least "I think" someone respects me somewhere)
FAR greater was the multitudes of people who helped me and that's why I decided to stay focused on the preservation of Model A's as they left the factory.
It's an education you can't buy...
you don't deserve it...
you take some knocks along the way and learn as you go.
Life is a big game and there's a message put forth by many in this thread that we need to lighten up and put feelings aside sometimes in the real world. I've learned if you truly want to enjoy and share in the knowledge of a past generation you might have to do something to earn it. If this means excusing someone for a few errors,bad spelling,age difference,race,creed,political standing,religion or any of the other things everybody seems to be "on" about, then so be it.
I'm here for the CAR and that's all.
I enjoy a good scrap just as well as the fellowship as long as something good comes from it, but at the end of the day everything we hold dear was earned by "scrapping it out" and if you think history doesn't repeat itself I humbly suggest you go back and rot in school for a few more years.
Speaking for myself I'm thankfull to grow up in era which reaps the benefits of my elders who gave their lives and lost personal freinds in war and bloodshed while I'm at an age that seems to have missed any wars.
The fear of a little arguement on the internet seems pretty trivial compared to the hardships of many people between now and when the cars of our affection where built.
If this continues to the point where you guys are all wearing pink T-shirts in support of your emotions & sensitive sides...then I'd suggest you're trying to modify the wrong forum.
This sense of "entitlement" I keep hearing about is disturbing.
The world owes us nothing.
For free.......the sun comes up.

[700rpm]

Arkansas, you have received about 80 responses to your original post, most of them expressing concern and sympathy. But you choose to embrace two that support your umbrage rather than the majority who acknowledge that sometimes things get testy. Fordgarage rightfully suggested in very polite and honest terms that Young Blood would be happier on the HAMB forum and you interpreted that as being talked down to. It was advice from an experienced and highly respected contributor here, and that's what this forum is about. And here is my advice to you on this topic: Don't be such a whineybutt. I think you need a serious attitude adjustment and some righteous maturing, and I'd say that to you whether you were 16 or 66.