Fitting 37 Two-Piece Wide Five Hub to 28/29 Rear Axle

[Ziggster]

I plan on fitting some 1937 Ford wide-five hubs to my 1928/29 Ford banjo rear axle. I already have the hubs (two-piece design) and wheels. I’ve done some research and understand that Ford made a switch to a different rear bearing in 36/37 (P/N 68-1225) which had a smaller diameter (O.D.) of 2.84” than those used from 1928 - 1936. I can’t really find any info on the rear bearing used from 1928 - 1936 other than an eBay ad listing a P/N B-1225-A with an O.D. of 3 3/16”. I’m trying to figure out what bearing I would require.
I have measured about 2.064” O.D. on my rear axle where I assume the bearing would sit. I measured the I.D. of the 37 two-piece hub where the bearing would sit at 2.807”. These measurements are not likely not 100% accurate, but should be close enough to the actual measurements. To complicate things perhaps a bit more, I found this old post mentioning a difference in the bearings used between the one and two-piece hubs.
So, the question is - is there a bearing that will work with a 28/29 axle and a 37 two-piece wide five hub?

[Ziggster]

For some reason I cannot ad pic. The “manage attachments” heading won’t let me click on it,

[Ziggster]

Now it works…

[Ziggster]

Link to the thread/post on the HAMB talking about the bearing differences between the one and two-piece hubs. Post is by Gregger Rod & Custom

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...wide-5.585945/

[alchemy]

Your hubs measure up to use the later bearing. Get ya some.

Be aware that some guys need to relieve the edge of the backing plate a bit when fitting juice brakes to A rearends.

[petehoovie]

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Originally Posted by Ziggster

I plan on fitting some 1937 Ford wide-five hubs to my 1928/29 Ford banjo rear axle. I already have the hubs (two-piece design) and wheels. I’ve done some research and understand that Ford made a switch to a different rear bearing in 36/37 (P/N 68-1225) which had a smaller diameter (O.D.) of 2.84” than those used from 1928 - 1936. I can’t really find any info on the rear bearing used from 1928 - 1936 other than an eBay ad listing a P/N B-1225-A with an O.D. of 3 3/16”. I’m trying to figure out what bearing I would require.
I have measured about 2.064” O.D. on my rear axle where I assume the bearing would sit. I measured the I.D. of the 37 two-piece hub where the bearing would sit at 2.807”. These measurements are not likely not 100% accurate, but should be close enough to the actual measurements. To complicate things perhaps a bit more, I found this old post mentioning a difference in the bearings used between the one and two-piece hubs.
So, the question is - is there a bearing that will work with a 28/29 axle and a 37 two-piece wide five hub?

[Ziggster]

Originally Posted by alchemy

Your hubs measure up to use the later bearing. Get ya some.

Be aware that some guys need to relieve the edge of the backing plate a bit when fitting juice brakes to A rearends.

Thanks Alchemy. I’ll order them today. Speaking of backing plates, I got both the front and rear pairs from Speedway. Got their 1937 - 1948 Fotd style self-energizing ones. In the process now of perhaps returning them for a couple of reasons:
1. Even though they advertise 1937, my 37 drums require 1.75” wide shoes, and the backing plates came with 2” wide shoes.
2. Two of the backing plates that I started to use for mockup wouldn’t fit properly even with the shoes removed. After checking, I noticed that they were warped from likely when they welded on the block that the position mounts to. We’re talking about 2.5 mm of warpage from top to bottom

[Ziggster]

Another question, I found this pic showing the other parts. Will these work with my axle and drum?

I left a message with the Early Ford Store in California as they list a kit for the bearing 68-1225 which includes the snap ring, seal, and bearing (68-1225), but they do not show the part numbers of the snap ring and seal.

[Ziggster]

The kit from the Early Ford Store.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Ziggster

Another question, I found this pic showing the other parts. Will these work with my axle and drum?

I left a message with the Early Ford Store in California as they list a kit for the bearing 68-1225 which includes the snap ring, seal, and bearing (68-1225), but they do not show the part numbers of the snap ring and seal.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Ziggster

The kit from the Early Ford Store.

[alchemy]

I would hope they sell the appropriate diameter seal and snap ring to match the bearing.

[Ziggster]

I would hope so. Lol! For a novice, it’s a bit frustrating to see all these parts as being advertised 28 - 48, but knowing there are differences. Still haven’t heard back from them.