Waking up a Sleeping Beauty, 1934 5 window

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by The Art Doctor

Pic: Gathering at Rottenwood Garage, a local community shop where we meet up to wrench or just kick tires and BS after breakfast most Saturdays.

[Mart]

"The list never ends but I can hop in it and go anywhere locally right now."

That's great to hear!

Just try and tackle one thing at a time and not get overwhelmed.
Mart.

[Woodie1]

I am impressed by your deep digging to find all the issues so can drive the car without issues. Good job.

[The Art Doctor]

I got my 27oz jute padding in. I ordered a 36" x 36" piece which was long enough but a little narrow, which was OK by me as I did not want to have to order a second yard just to have two extra inches in width. I used the new rubber mat as a template to trim it to shape. It was hard to cut smoothly with a sharp razor blade and I wound up using a pair of kitchen scissors to good if hand weary result. The Rubber mat is a good match to the old V8 shop one it replaces. I had to do some edge trimming and cutting around the peddles as the new mat did not have a punch-out for a brake peddle, just the clutch. I had to adjust nearly all the cutouts, they just didn't line up or rubbed and caused the mat to flap with each peddle press. Even the hole for the steering column was too small causing the rubber to pucker around it. I am not thrilled with my cuts, they look ragged compared to the factory punch-outs. For a guy that does perfection for a living they bug me, buy when I'm in the drivers seat I cannot see them past my big size 13's. And the necessity of having splits to get it around the peddles leads to it not laying flat there, even with duck tape on the backside. Its in, paid for and will stay until it fails in a way I cannot stand and then I will replace it with carpeting, paying someone to do a nice bound edge job. I did clean up and straighten the aluminum scuff plates, they are old reproductions judging by the blue ink stamp on the back that said "for 5 window coupe". They are a bit shiny now but will dull over the next 50 years as they had before.


I got my Box 'o Bends of exhaust tubing in. That is the next job to get done.


pics, pre-existing aluminum faced jute, new rubber mat, new jute cut to shape, new jute installed, final instillation.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by The Art Doctor

I got my 27oz jute padding in. I ordered a 36" x 36" piece which was long enough but a little narrow, which was OK by me as I did not want to have to order a second yard just to have two extra inches in width. I used the new rubber mat as a template to trim it to shape. It was hard to cut smoothly with a sharp razor blade and I wound up using a pair of kitchen scissors to good if hand weary result. The Rubber mat is a good match to the old V8 shop one it replaces. I had to do some edge trimming and cutting around the peddles as the new mat did not have a punch-out for a brake peddle, just the clutch. I had to adjust nearly all the cutouts, they just didn't line up or rubbed and caused the mat to flap with each peddle press. Even the hole for the steering column was too small causing the rubber to pucker around it. I am not thrilled with my cuts, they look ragged compared to the factory punch-outs. For a guy that does perfection for a living they bug me, buy when I'm in the drivers seat I cannot see them past my big size 13's. And the necessity of having splits to get it around the peddles leads to it not laying flat there, even with duck tape on the backside. Its in, paid for and will stay until it fails in a way I cannot stand and then I will replace it with carpeting, paying someone to do a nice bound edge job. I did clean up and straighten the aluminum scuff plates, they are old reproductions judging by the blue ink stamp on the back that said "for 5 window coupe". They are a bit shiny now but will dull over the next 50 years as they had before.


I got my Box 'o Bends of exhaust tubing in. That is the next job to get done.


pics, pre-existing aluminum faced jute, new rubber mat, new jute cut to shape, new jute installed, final instillation.

[Zax40]

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Looks good.

Speaking from experience even if you take the time to make all the openings perfect, after several times of taking it out and putting it back in to work on stuff they will look ragged anyway.

[Shaneff76]

What a beautiful car.

[The Art Doctor]

I have developed a whining, occasionally dripping and grease flinging drivers side water pump. Just to make sure I'm not missing it; there is no drain on the radiator despite the hole and channel below it in the sheet metal, just two petcocks in the block near the lower mounts, correct?


I have a single extra NOS pump I got out if the classifieds a while back. I filled it up with fresh water pump grease, and painted it so its ready to go for a change out on Sunday. Its the later style with the port for a temperature sender that I intend to use to add a gauge, eventually. Last time out she ran 175* measured on the heads with the laser on an 82* day after 55 minutes to go 35 miles of surface street driving with red lights and traffic as usual.


Pics: Grease flung on the inside of the hood, offending water pump with grease covered sheave.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by The Art Doctor

I have developed a whining, occasionally dripping and grease flinging drivers side water pump. Just to make sure I'm not missing it; there is no drain on the radiator despite the hole and channel below it in the sheet metal, just two petcocks in the block near the lower mounts, correct?

I have a single extra NOS pump I got out if the classifieds a while back. I filled it up with fresh water pump grease, and painted it so its ready to go for a change out on Sunday. Its the later style with the port for a temperature sender that I intend to use to add a gauge, eventually. Last time out she ran 175* measured on the heads with the laser on an 82* day after 55 minutes to go 35 miles of surface street driving with red lights and traffic as usual.

Pics: Grease flung on the inside of the hood, offending water pump with grease covered sheave.

[Terry,OH]

do not use a common Zerk fitting on the water pump as shown above. They have a check valve built in that prevents excess grease for exiting the pump. use the original style fitting that has a brass cap and no check valve do not overfill that can rupture the seal.

[kevinshea]

A few suggestions: rebuild all the engine compartment parts distributor, generator, fuel pump, carb... just start out knowing that everything is in order....all the sources for rebuilders can be found here in previous posts. I would take a look at the brakes, but given the low mileage, shoes and drums will likely be fine ... I would add StarBrite enzyme to the gas tank to clean up any gum or varnish, then, when running, the same stuff should clean up the lines. Drive it for short trip to trust your ride and when comfortable, start driving it around and smile when folks drive by and give you the thumbs up!

[The Art Doctor]

Job done. I painted up the replacement water pump with some very old Bob Drake engine enamel I got from a deceased V8 members garage a few years ago. It is darker than what was on there but better matches the correct color. Eventually I should refresh the whole engine but that would mean cleaning it first. I'll add that to the very bottom of the list.


Looking into Terry's note I have new grease fittings in my wish list at 3rd Gen, I will replace when I get enough needs to make an order. I think the original pump's housing may be cracked, possibly from too much grease with a high pressure gun? The bad pump had been rebuilt with a different style impeller too. As its stamped with a 40- part number I will clean it up and see what the problem actually was, eventually. Possibly it could be saved. I filled the new one with proper water pump grease through the screw on sheet metal opening using a Popsicle stick and put the cover back on.


While I had the coolant drained I went ahead and put in the missing thermostats. I went with 180's. These are 1 3/4" diameter with an integral o-ring seal at the perimeter and a cage to keep them from twisting if it were just the disc. The original application is for Pontiac Fiero and they come in 160, 180 and 190 (stock Fiero is 190). I always test them before hand in a pot of water to make sure they are opening, and later closing, at the same temperature. I did a test drive afterwords on a 60* day and the heads measured 175* just the same as they did on the 82* day with no stats but the radiator itself was a cool 120* meaning the thermostats are doing their job keeping the engine at a stable operating temp. I added the extra hose clamp to make it look more authentic but their is some slight chance it could slip up the hose with enough pump pressure and this will keep it from doing so.


Next stop is the Georgia Tech Auto Show this upcoming Saturday morning.


Pics: All done newly installed pump, new pump showing off its pollen dusting, new pump bottom, new thermostats, testing thermostats, old pump with possible housing crack.

[The Art Doctor]

Made it down and back to the Georgia Tech Show down deep in the city. We were given an early arrival time to place our car near the center of the show and the big sculpture in the design and engineering end of campus. The show basically filled in around us. I was right behind a Cadillac Town Sedan that was originally a V16 car that when found as a derelict shell in the 80's was resurrected as street rod with modern, I believe Jaguar V12 power and suspension. That Caddy made the Ford look tiny but it held its own in the class and beauty department with the big Full Classic. The wife in our 2004 Ford Taurus wagon was across the isle from me. The '34 got tons of lookers both old and young, but the wagon really pulled in the little kids. I guess they have only known high roof SUV's and a wagon was something totally foreign to them. I don't have a total car count but it was over 200 with a provided BBQ lunch for all participants. Everything from a Ferrari F40 to a ratty student owned 77 4-door LTD with a 5-cylinder turbo diesel swap. Keynote speaker was head of Hyundai Global Design, who flew in from the New York auto show for three hours and then flew back right afterwords, and his talk was very interesting. Great show and will be going again next year.


Pics Me and my '34, Big Caddy, our 2004 Taurus Wagon, Show filling in around us.

[34fordy]

Originally Posted by The Art Doctor

Made it down and back to the Georgia Tech Show down deep in the city. We were given an early arrival time to place our car near the center of the show and the big sculpture in the design and engineering end of campus. The show basically filled in around us. I was right behind a Cadillac Town Sedan that was originally a V16 car that when found as a derelict shell in the 80's was resurrected as street rod with modern, I believe Jaguar V12 power and suspension. That Caddy made the Ford look tiny but it held its own in the class and beauty department with the big Full Classic. The wife in our 2004 Ford Taurus wagon was across the isle from me. The '34 got tons of lookers both old and young, but the wagon really pulled in the little kids. I guess they have only known high roof SUV's and a wagon was something totally foreign to them. I don't have a total car count but it was over 200 with a provided BBQ lunch for all participants. Everything from a Ferrari F40 to a ratty student owned 77 4-door LTD with a 5-cylinder turbo diesel swap. Keynote speaker was head of Hyundai Global Design, who flew in from the New York auto show for three hours and then flew back right afterwords, and his talk was very interesting. Great show and will be going again next year.


Pics Me and my '34, Big Caddy, our 2004 Taurus Wagon, Show filling in around us.

I think you and I must go to the same barbershop ! LOL

[The Art Doctor]

Its possible. I learned to cut my own hair in undergrad using clippers and two mirrors. I have not paid for a hair cut since the mid 1990's. My son is 19 and ony his first cut was by his grandfather's barber, I have done all the rest. I have super curly Sicilian hair and gave up on brushing out the knots about 4.5 years ago. Dreadlocks do take some effort but once going are fairly hands off. I turn 55 this year and as long as I still have a full head of hair I will be rocking some sort of offbeat look.