3window1931Murray4door

[nwjm]

What is the correct model #? It has the windshield visor,arched upper door window frames and the 3rd window does not open. I,m helping my friend finish his A but he now has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's and now has forgotten. It is a Canadian built car.

[Bigsnapper43]

Let's see a picture. Vertical windshield or a slanted and no outside visor are items that a picture will clear up real fast.

[nwjm]

With a visor the windshield is not slanted.

[WTSHNN]

http://gwcmodela.com/bodyphotos.asp

[Bob Bidonde]

I suspect that the Model "A" in question is 1 155-C Murray Town Sedan. A picture of the car would be helpful.

[rotorwrench]

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Murray had the slight arch in their windows in the first years of the model A Fordor production and this helps tell a Briggs from a Murray but in the 1931 slant windshield production, both Murray and Briggs cars were the same and favored the Murray design. The only quick way to tell the manufacturer was by the body tags.

As was mentioned, the visor was deleted on the slant windshield designs so none of them were produced that way by Ford or the subcontractors for production. Straight windshield models were produced in 1931 until the change over to the new design. This is not to say that someone couldn't have installed one after production. Folks did modify there cars with accessories and aftermarket parts over time.

[Marshall V. Daut]

1929-early 1931 three-window sedans not only differed in the upper window lines (Murray being arched as mentioned, Briggs being straight across), the doors on the Murray Sedans are the same width, while the Briggs doors were unequal there. The Briggs rear doors are noticeably narrower than the front doors.
Marshall

[nwjm]

Thanks, it was a basic 4dr. ( no cowl lights) & the I interior dome light was in the center of the headliner so I suspect 165c is more fitting.

[rotorwrench]

I would concur with that assessment. The plain Jane Murray Fordor 3-window for 1930/31 was the 165C. They are still very nice cars and only are missing a few items by comparison. This would simplify restoration but only a little.

Canadian Fords are not a lot different that the US made cars. Robertson head screws and the Canadian serial numbers are some of the differences. There are likely a few more differences but I'm not well versed on the Canadian built cars.

[Bob Bidonde]

A 165-C Standard is a scarce car these days as most of the standards have been restored as deluxe models.