The Ford Barn

benbuilder · 11-08-2024, 11:53 PM

About three weeks ago, I was looking for a tool to remove valves from a Flathead engine. I Figured I’d buy one used so I could save a few bucks and maybe help someone out who no longer needed theirs. Win win for all. I got a response from somebody on this site, and you know who you are. you set the price. I agreed, and sent you payment. We agreed, The tool would be shipped after the check cleared. I have emailed him asking if he received the check numerous times and he continued to tell me that he did not receive it. I finally checked with the bank and the check was cleared over a week and a half ago. The response from the seller is that it has not arrived and maybe I should send an alternate payment. I was hoping there was a misunderstanding and the tool would be mailed out. I know that I’ve been scammed. Shame on me for trusting you. I’ve sold parts and shipped them all over the world and have never been taken advantage of. And I have never taken advantage of anyone on the other end. It's called mutual trust. Most car guys are good guys. You are the first. if taking the $50 means that much to you, you will get your karma.If I had bought the tool new, I would already be done with what I needed to do in my engine would be at the Rebuilders shop.

J Franklin · 11-09-2024, 01:00 AM

Call the cops! Your check is ample evidence of the crime.

deuce lover · 11-09-2024, 03:57 AM

Report this to RYAN ASAP!

19Fordy · 11-09-2024, 04:42 AM

I feel your pain. Checks are no longer a safe way to make payments when buying parts, etc.

chap52 · 11-09-2024, 07:45 AM

Please post this persons info so others will know... Chap

34fordy · 11-09-2024, 08:00 AM

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When ever I send a payment to anyone that does not use PayPal I use USPS certified mail with a tracking number. It costs a bit more but worth it. The recipient has to sign for the letter. I also follow the the tracking # so that I know when it is delivered. I do not send personal checks but use USPS money orders. That way the seller does not need to wait for the check to clear and he can ship immediately.

Jack E/NJ · 11-09-2024, 08:13 AM

> >I finally checked with the bank and the check was cleared over a week and a half ago.> >

The seller might've forgotten. Just ask your bank for a copy of the cleared check endorsed by the seller. Then show it to the seller. Go from there.

pistonbroke · 11-09-2024, 08:22 AM

It sounds like someone needs a personal visit as a reminder why you don't do this. Tim

benbuilder · 11-09-2024, 08:27 AM

The seller might've forgotten. I DID GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. I HAVE MAILED HIM NUMEROUS TIMES AND HE RESPONDS BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE, HE WILL LOOK INTO IT, OR CHECKING NOW, ETC.

Just ask your bank for a copy of the cleared check endorsed by the seller. Then show it to the seller. Go from there. DID THIS AND SENT IT TO HIM, HIS RESPONSE "Will check it today and get back to you", AND "Will get back to you shortly"

IF THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION, I WOULD SAY, HE MAY BE ILL OR A FAMILY EMERGENCY, BUT HE RESPONDS WITH ENCOURAGING SHORT SENTENCES THAT MEAN NOTHING.

ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE INTEREST FROM YOU GUYS. I HAVE REPORTED IT TO THE POLICE. I HOPE TO HEAR THEY AT LEAST KNOCKED ON HIS DOOR.

ford38v8 · 11-09-2024, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benbuilder

The seller might've forgotten. I DID GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. I HAVE MAILED HIM NUMEROUS TIMES AND HE RESPONDS BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE, HE WILL LOOK INTO IT, OR CHECKING NOW, ETC.

Just ask your bank for a copy of the cleared check endorsed by the seller. Then show it to the seller. Go from there. DID THIS AND SENT IT TO HIM, HIS RESPONSE "Will check it today and get back to you", AND "Will get back to you shortly"

IF THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION, I WOULD SAY, HE MAY BE ILL OR A FAMILY EMERGENCY, BUT HE RESPONDS WITH ENCOURAGING SHORT SENTENCES THAT MEAN NOTHING.

ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE INTEREST FROM YOU GUYS. I HAVE REPORTED IT TO THE POLICE. I HOPE TO HEAR THEY AT LEAST KNOCKED ON HIS DOOR.

This is not a Police matter. Your tax dollars don't support civil matters. When you have evidence that would hold up in court, then proceed in taking legal steps, including the posting his name here and with Ryan. The last thing you want is to take action that puts yourself in a defensive position.

benbuilder · 11-09-2024, 09:31 AM

I will report it with Ryan
Correct on this-The last thing you want is to take action that puts yourself in a defensive position

Scott52 · 11-09-2024, 10:00 AM

I know what you mean. I have sent parts to folks as soon as I hear they are putting a check in the mail. They get the part about the same time as I get the check. This is for small stuff. I am more careful with more costly items. Pisses you off. And you still don't have your tool. Good Luck. I had another guy who was doing work on an engine for me. He sort of stopped responding to me but he lived close by. Turned out he had cancer he was dealing with and could only work a few days a month after Chemo treatments. He did get the work done and survived. Would have been a big bummer if he never finished and I had to deal with a grieving wife to get my stuff back. Hi health was more important than my material things.

19Fordy · 11-09-2024, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34fordy

When ever I send a payment to anyone that does not use PayPal I use USPS certified mail with a tracking number. It costs a bit more but worth it. The recipient has to sign for the letter. I also follow the the tracking # so that I know when it is delivered. I do not send personal checks but use USPS money orders. That way the seller does not need to wait for the check to clear and he can ship immediately.

When recently I went to cash a USPS Money Order at my bank, the teller made a call to some sort of a clearing house to see if it was genuine. She told me USPS MONEY ORDERS are now being counterfeited. BE CAREFUL.

34fordy · 11-09-2024, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

When recently I went to cash a USPS Money Order at my bank, the teller made a call to some sort of a clearing house to see if it was genuine. She told me USPS MONEY ORDERS are now being counterfeited. BE CAREFUL.

This is only an issue if you are on the money order receiving end.

I had an old friend (a car salesman) who always said: "If you can't trust your banker, your lawyer, and a used car dealer, who can you trust" LOL

I prefer PayPal and if I am wary or do not know the seller I will not do a Friends payment but will send extra $ to cover the transaction fee. It is a small price to pay to cover a loss if the seller is not honest.

19Fordy · 11-09-2024, 12:24 PM

34Fordy, Please explain how a PayPal Friends Payment protects the seller from being cheated. I looked it up and it was not clear to me. Thanks, jim
https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/art...yments-help277

kurt v · 11-09-2024, 12:31 PM

was the part you paid for in nc ?

OldGold360 · 11-09-2024, 12:35 PM

This is horrible. Something similar happened to me about 8 years ago (not on Ford Barn) but for 10X the amount. Go to your bank and file the necessary fraud claims. Make sure to bring any correspondence you had with the scammer to help prove your case. I did get my money back and I hope you have the same results that I did. I am sure that the $50 is not what upsets you the most, but reimbursement at least makes you financially whole. I hope the member is either banned or can be named here on this forum so that other can avoid this happening to them.

Call your bank. They will probably still want you to come in and fill out the paperwork, but that will be your only solution to getting your money back. Also, please report this member to Ryan. I think everyone reading this thread uses the classifieds and is wanting to know who this member is.

Good Luck!

34fordy · 11-09-2024, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

34Fordy, Please explain how a PayPal Friends Payment protects the seller from being cheated. I looked it up and it was not clear to me. Thanks, jim
https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/art...yments-help277

Hey Jim,
If you re-read my post you will see that I said I DO NOT use a Friends payment when not certain of the seller.

Mart · 11-09-2024, 02:09 PM

Benbuilder, was the person someone with a lot of posts, or hardly any?

glennpm · 11-09-2024, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benbuilder

The seller might've forgotten. I DID GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. I HAVE MAILED HIM NUMEROUS TIMES AND HE RESPONDS BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE, HE WILL LOOK INTO IT, OR CHECKING NOW, ETC.

Just ask your bank for a copy of the cleared check endorsed by the seller. Then show it to the seller. Go from there. DID THIS AND SENT IT TO HIM, HIS RESPONSE "Will check it today and get back to you", AND "Will get back to you shortly"

In my opinion, the second paragraph would be the next step. There have been many cases of USPS letters being opened fraudulently, checks cashed or worse, modified for a greater amount.

11-08-2024, 11:53 PM	#1
benbuilder Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 122	How do you feel about scamming me? About three weeks ago, I was looking for a tool to remove valves from a Flathead engine. I Figured I’d buy one used so I could save a few bucks and maybe help someone out who no longer needed theirs. Win win for all. I got a response from somebody on this site, and you know who you are. you set the price. I agreed, and sent you payment. We agreed, The tool would be shipped after the check cleared. I have emailed him asking if he received the check numerous times and he continued to tell me that he did not receive it. I finally checked with the bank and the check was cleared over a week and a half ago. The response from the seller is that it has not arrived and maybe I should send an alternate payment. I was hoping there was a misunderstanding and the tool would be mailed out. I know that I’ve been scammed. Shame on me for trusting you. I’ve sold parts and shipped them all over the world and have never been taken advantage of. And I have never taken advantage of anyone on the other end. It's called mutual trust. Most car guys are good guys. You are the first. if taking the $50 means that much to you, you will get your karma.If I had bought the tool new, I would already be done with what I needed to do in my engine would be at the Rebuilders shop.

11-09-2024, 01:00 AM	#2
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,581	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? Call the cops! Your check is ample evidence of the crime.

11-09-2024, 03:57 AM	#3
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rockwall TX Posts: 6,018	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? Report this to RYAN ASAP!

11-09-2024, 04:42 AM	#4
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,916	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? I feel your pain. Checks are no longer a safe way to make payments when buying parts, etc.

11-09-2024, 07:45 AM	#5
chap52 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Marana Arizona Posts: 1,869	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? Please post this persons info so others will know... Chap

11-09-2024, 08:00 AM	#6
34fordy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Fort dodge, Iowa Posts: 1,453	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) When ever I send a payment to anyone that does not use PayPal I use USPS certified mail with a tracking number. It costs a bit more but worth it. The recipient has to sign for the letter. I also follow the the tracking # so that I know when it is delivered. I do not send personal checks but use USPS money orders. That way the seller does not need to wait for the check to clear and he can ship immediately.

11-09-2024, 08:13 AM	#7
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,272	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? > >I finally checked with the bank and the check was cleared over a week and a half ago.> > The seller might've forgotten. Just ask your bank for a copy of the cleared check endorsed by the seller. Then show it to the seller. Go from there.

11-09-2024, 08:22 AM	#8
pistonbroke Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Perry Mo. Posts: 838	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? It sounds like someone needs a personal visit as a reminder why you don't do this. Tim

11-09-2024, 08:27 AM	#9
benbuilder Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 122	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? The seller might've forgotten. I DID GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. I HAVE MAILED HIM NUMEROUS TIMES AND HE RESPONDS BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE, HE WILL LOOK INTO IT, OR CHECKING NOW, ETC. Just ask your bank for a copy of the cleared check endorsed by the seller. Then show it to the seller. Go from there. DID THIS AND SENT IT TO HIM, HIS RESPONSE "Will check it today and get back to you", AND "Will get back to you shortly" IF THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION, I WOULD SAY, HE MAY BE ILL OR A FAMILY EMERGENCY, BUT HE RESPONDS WITH ENCOURAGING SHORT SENTENCES THAT MEAN NOTHING. ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE INTEREST FROM YOU GUYS. I HAVE REPORTED IT TO THE POLICE. I HOPE TO HEAR THEY AT LEAST KNOCKED ON HIS DOOR. Last edited by benbuilder; 11-09-2024 at 08:47 AM.

11-09-2024, 09:31 AM	#11
benbuilder Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 122	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? I will report it with Ryan Correct on this-The last thing you want is to take action that puts yourself in a defensive position

11-09-2024, 10:00 AM	#12
Scott52 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 204	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? I know what you mean. I have sent parts to folks as soon as I hear they are putting a check in the mail. They get the part about the same time as I get the check. This is for small stuff. I am more careful with more costly items. Pisses you off. And you still don't have your tool. Good Luck. I had another guy who was doing work on an engine for me. He sort of stopped responding to me but he lived close by. Turned out he had cancer he was dealing with and could only work a few days a month after Chemo treatments. He did get the work done and survived. Would have been a big bummer if he never finished and I had to deal with a grieving wife to get my stuff back. Hi health was more important than my material things.

11-09-2024, 12:24 PM	#15
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,916	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? 34Fordy, Please explain how a PayPal Friends Payment protects the seller from being cheated. I looked it up and it was not clear to me. Thanks, jim https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/art...yments-help277

11-09-2024, 12:31 PM	#16
kurt v Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: summerton, sc Posts: 544	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? was the part you paid for in nc ?

11-09-2024, 12:35 PM	#17
OldGold360 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: SW WA Posts: 700	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? This is horrible. Something similar happened to me about 8 years ago (not on Ford Barn) but for 10X the amount. Go to your bank and file the necessary fraud claims. Make sure to bring any correspondence you had with the scammer to help prove your case. I did get my money back and I hope you have the same results that I did. I am sure that the $50 is not what upsets you the most, but reimbursement at least makes you financially whole. I hope the member is either banned or can be named here on this forum so that other can avoid this happening to them. Call your bank. They will probably still want you to come in and fill out the paperwork, but that will be your only solution to getting your money back. Also, please report this member to Ryan. I think everyone reading this thread uses the classifieds and is wanting to know who this member is. Good Luck! Last edited by OldGold360; 11-09-2024 at 04:28 PM.

11-09-2024, 02:09 PM	#19
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,239	Re: How do you feel about scamming me? Benbuilder, was the person someone with a lot of posts, or hardly any?