The Ford Barn

okie pete · 07-16-2023, 09:52 PM

Good information to think on as I’m going in circles out in the fields .

my4dv8 · 07-18-2023, 02:57 PM

Unfortunately Hot Rod Works is for sale and not taking on new work.

petehoovie · 07-18-2023, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by okie pete

Good information to think on as I’m going in circles out in the fields .

RB · 07-18-2023, 05:24 PM

Sad to know Hot Rod Works is bowing out, used the Buick adapters they machined & were always abreast of the concerns on the ford barn & the hamb & would chime in with helping comments,

frames · 07-18-2023, 06:40 PM

Special side gears available exclusively from Wayne Atkinson. B S . Ford part # 5R3Z-4215-AA. I recently obtained a 201 QC with 19 spline side gears. They were cut down. Same as I had been cutting the 28 spline side gears to. I think it was 1.620" OD.

GT40David · 09-18-2024, 05:24 PM

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Could some one with the article from Street Rodder Magazine feb 1985 with the banjo 9 inch axle upgrade post a nice clear copy.

Flathead Fever · 09-18-2024, 07:48 PM

I have a chopped '32 3-window project with an Early Ford Haliband rearend with 9" axles. I bought it that way as an unfinished project, in pieces, which it still is not finished after 20 plus years. I was still working so I bought stuff to do when I retired and now I've had a stroke and I move a little slower, I have something like 14 car projects I bought over 30-years.

What I don't like about my converted axle is they cutoff the ends of the axle housings ofand welded on the 9" ends to get the bearings and flanges for the 9" axles. When they did that, they cutoff the original housing ends with the spring perches. That was great except the new welded-on spring perches hit the 15" rims. 16" rims would have barely cleared the perches and that's what I should have done. Instead, I had a pair of 15" rear rims reversed to clear the spring hangers. The rear end was done by a very reputable man at Super Bell Axle, a really nice guy. That was probably more then 20-years. The rearend was still at his shop being built when I bought the car. Then the rearend was loaned out to SoCal Speed shop, they were restoring either the famous Pierson Brothers Coupe or SoCal Coupe at the time. They needed it to borrow it to set up the car and I said that would be fine. It was months before I actually saw the rearend that came with the '32 3-window I had purchased.

Later they came out with a way to keep the original axle housing ends and the spring hangers when sticking modern axles in the rearend. I have the articles on it some place.

GT40David · 09-18-2024, 08:08 PM

Thanks for the insight.

GT40David · 09-26-2024, 02:43 AM

Got the article now.

Ol' Ron · 09-27-2024, 04:46 PM

I stopped using the Banjo rear and stock trans back in the late 50's early 60's and dever went back. Modifying them was too expensive and the auto industry makes nice transmission and rear axles, and the junk yards are full of them. I like using the Spicer 35 rears axles behind the Flathead as it can us ALL the power and is light enough to improve the ride quality in a street application. For more power the spacer 44 comes in with good ratios and posies at a very reasonable cost,/ I like th AOD and T 170 as best if both work. However I used a ford automatic for several years in my International truck for many yearts behind a Merc engine with no problem/However, aesthetics is something you can't live with out,
Gramps

07-16-2023, 09:52 PM	#21
okie pete Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Willow Springs OK Posts: 25	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Good information to think on as I’m going in circles out in the fields .

07-18-2023, 02:57 PM	#22
my4dv8 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,143	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Unfortunately Hot Rod Works is for sale and not taking on new work.

07-18-2023, 05:24 PM	#24
RB Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: papillion nebraska Posts: 441	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Sad to know Hot Rod Works is bowing out, used the Buick adapters they machined & were always abreast of the concerns on the ford barn & the hamb & would chime in with helping comments,

07-18-2023, 06:40 PM	#25
frames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: concord, nc Posts: 137	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Special side gears available exclusively from Wayne Atkinson. B S . Ford part # 5R3Z-4215-AA. I recently obtained a 201 QC with 19 spline side gears. They were cut down. Same as I had been cutting the 28 spline side gears to. I think it was 1.620" OD.

09-18-2024, 05:24 PM	#26
GT40David Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Could some one with the article from Street Rodder Magazine feb 1985 with the banjo 9 inch axle upgrade post a nice clear copy.

09-18-2024, 07:48 PM	#27
Flathead Fever Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,492	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles I have a chopped '32 3-window project with an Early Ford Haliband rearend with 9" axles. I bought it that way as an unfinished project, in pieces, which it still is not finished after 20 plus years. I was still working so I bought stuff to do when I retired and now I've had a stroke and I move a little slower, I have something like 14 car projects I bought over 30-years. What I don't like about my converted axle is they cutoff the ends of the axle housings ofand welded on the 9" ends to get the bearings and flanges for the 9" axles. When they did that, they cutoff the original housing ends with the spring perches. That was great except the new welded-on spring perches hit the 15" rims. 16" rims would have barely cleared the perches and that's what I should have done. Instead, I had a pair of 15" rear rims reversed to clear the spring hangers. The rear end was done by a very reputable man at Super Bell Axle, a really nice guy. That was probably more then 20-years. The rearend was still at his shop being built when I bought the car. Then the rearend was loaned out to SoCal Speed shop, they were restoring either the famous Pierson Brothers Coupe or SoCal Coupe at the time. They needed it to borrow it to set up the car and I said that would be fine. It was months before I actually saw the rearend that came with the '32 3-window I had purchased. Later they came out with a way to keep the original axle housing ends and the spring hangers when sticking modern axles in the rearend. I have the articles on it some place. Last edited by Flathead Fever; 09-18-2024 at 08:00 PM.

09-18-2024, 08:08 PM	#28
GT40David Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Thanks for the insight.

09-26-2024, 02:43 AM	#29
GT40David Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles Got the article now.

09-27-2024, 04:46 PM	#30
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: Conversion of Banjo Rear Axle to Modern Axles I stopped using the Banjo rear and stock trans back in the late 50's early 60's and dever went back. Modifying them was too expensive and the auto industry makes nice transmission and rear axles, and the junk yards are full of them. I like using the Spicer 35 rears axles behind the Flathead as it can us ALL the power and is light enough to improve the ride quality in a street application. For more power the spacer 44 comes in with good ratios and posies at a very reasonable cost,/ I like th AOD and T 170 as best if both work. However I used a ford automatic for several years in my International truck for many yearts behind a Merc engine with no problem/However, aesthetics is something you can't live with out, Gramps