Hot rod steering box

[3W Hank]

The F-1 has some good things, smaller, production 48-52, 32 steerarm can be used and same bolt pattern.
I guess performance is the same also as the F-100.
Feel like a uppgrade in a hotrod for early 50’s than use the std box.

So now comes steering wheel angle in a lower position.
How do people do, so they normally like that and use the std lenghts up to steering wheel ( or short it )
That means I need to put a adapter under my collum ( as angle is lower ) or it might be all Ok as if I use the Hollywood panel the dash needs to be wider.
What is the gap ca under dash ( std ) if use std collum and the F-1 box.

[3W Hank]

How much move the steering shaft down in a F-1 from the F-100 ( or std 32 box )
Look like 3” (?)
I measured my 32 dash and its 5.3/4 and the Hollywood panel is 5.3/4 so its 2”.
So dash with that set-up means a ca 2” wider dash.
Here is a example in a roadster in Sweden.
Do not know steering box in that car, look like a 34 collum (?)

[32phil]

The size of the spacer needed to mount the F1 box in a stock 32 is exactly 1'' square.
I use a piece of 1-inch square aluminum about 6 inches long. I drill 2 oversize holes to match the column drop holes. Then two 1.5 inch 5/16 24 Allen cap screws through the original dash mounting holes, through the aluminum into the column drop. The Allens make it easy to install and tighten.
I taper the ends of the spacer to blend it to the bottom of the dash. I put a high polish on the spacer itself, I don't like the look painted. The last three were machined turned to match the original gauge panel. I like that look too.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

How much move the steering shaft down in a F-1 from the F-100 ( or std 32 box )
Look like 3” (?)
I measured my 32 dash and its 5.3/4 and the Hollywood panel is 5.3/4 so its 2”.
So dash with that set-up means a ca 2” wider dash.
Here is a example in a roadster in Sweden.
Do not know steering box in that car, look like a 34 collum (?)

[3W Hank]

Found this Hudson 39.
Maybe a bolt on in a 32 ?
Is the 39 bigger than the ex 37 box ?
What design do Neal use ?

One guy build many hotrods in Sweden told me use the F100 as Way better angle on steering wheel, he was not found on the F1.
In a chopped coupe one sit low so better with a flatter angle, he mean, and then move it forward for better clearance on exhaust header.

[Tim Ayers]

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I would 100% lay out everything before you finalize anything. The further you go forward on the '32 frame rail, the narrower the rail gets.

Use the EXAXCT exhaust you plan to run for all fitting.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Found this Hudson 39.
Maybe a bolt on in a 32 ?
Is the 39 bigger than the ex 37 box ?
What design do Neal use ?

One guy build many hotrods in Sweden told me use the F100 as Way better angle on steering wheel, he was not found on the F1.
In a chopped coupe one dit low so better with a flatter angle, he mean.
Then move it forward for better clearance on exhaust header.

[3W Hank]

On the headers, once set it up its better get more clearance even if header will be custom made.

[glennpm]

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

I would 100% lay out everything before you finalize anything. The further you go forward on the '32 frame rail, the narrower the rail gets.

Use the EXAXCT exhaust you plan to run for all fitting.

Wise words from Tim!


Use a modified F1 or one of Neal's new boxes.
Space is tight so avoid the F100.


Glenn

[3W Hank]

I saw this picture and it was from Neal and said in thread 37 ’only’ but not why, maybe 39 is bigger, or ?

I really not into the F-100 so the F-1 feels good and I will find clearance, but now this Hudson came out so went to see it.
Expensive but wanted to trade.

[glennpm]

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...2#post-3185444


Many posts by NEALINCA on the HAMB

[3W Hank]

I read several ( good info.

If ex Neal read this, or other knowledge person ; is the 39 wrong turning ?
This box if one turns right sector goes anti clickwise = correct Ford style.
-So I think seller told me wrong, its a 37 box, here is steering wheel.

[glennpm]

For a Left Hand Drive, LHD; turning the steering wheel CW rotates the Pitman arm CCW which pulls the drag link forward, turning the wheels to the right.

[hotcoupe]

Hank, original '37 Hudson steering boxes have the figures "A 04
30585" cast into the housing. That may help you confirm whether the box you have is a '37 or not.
Tom

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

I read several ( good info.

If ex Neal read this, or other knowledge person ; is the 39 wrong turning ?
This box if one turns right sector goes anti clickwise = correct Ford style.
-So I think seller told me wrong, its a 37 box, here is steering wheel.

[3W Hank]

Tom, good info thanks.
Get back tomorrow as I ask seller to check.
One thing confuse me as at Hamb I saw a picture of a 37 but it look indentical to this as was told be a 39.
But with the number it will tell.
I guess the 37 is smaller.

[3W Hank]

I notice the box I sas yesterday is a 39 and one see they had a extra cast rib to sector axle.
Why, the 39 had a extra 2” longer sector than the 37.
-As Neal has said, 37 ’only’ so now i know why plus the 39 is bigger.
But i think I found a 37 box ( 800 USD ) but its in a bad shape.
But good on Hudson is a tyny box and roller, steering wheel shaft comes in from above and as Neal showed in his pick-up ( big wheel ) the angle is to step use a F1 ( but I has a 15.5” Bell ) and my window is not tilted but I will sit low ( 3” chop 5W )
So the Hudson 37 might be the way to go but ( $ )
Se pictire of a 37 Hudson in Sweden ( = no extra rib to sector )

[3W Hank]

F1 and Hudson 37 on steering wheel angle.
One get the same results on std 32 or the F-100 box as the Hudson ( 37-39 )
Pictures from Neals pick-up.

[3W Hank]

I tested my F-100 än turn steering wheel to right ( CW ) but the sector axle must go anti CW as arm go back and ’drag’ the spindle = so car goes right ( just a note )

[3W Hank]

I found this from Neal 2011/Hamb.
He show a std 32 box and a 37 Hudson to right.