When did the E28 Passenger cars Left Hand Brake move?

[southfork]

I would like to know at about what serial# the early 28 Model A passenger cars had the left hand emergency brake move to the top of the transmission. I am aware that Ford used up old parts, and kept the early features on pickups and trucks after they had been changed on the passenger cars. I have an early 1928 Phaeton project, and I want the brake lever to be correct for the serial number. The phaeton's engine number is in the 300,000 - 400,000 range. Thanks for your help.

[Tom Wesenberg]

I would say you have the parking brake handle on top of the tranny. My 28 Phaeton is 404,*** and the gas tank date is 9-27-28. The handle was moved back about May 1928.

[JohnLaVoy]

I think it was July 1928 that was the move. I have a May 1928 with the left hand brake.

[glenn in camino]

My 6/1/28 tudor has the e brake on top of the trans, in front of the gearshift.

[John Stone]

I have always understood it was around car 100,000. Of course I'm sure it was plus or minus a few thousand because of using up the left over parts in production.

[newshirt]

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The change could be anywhere between April 1928 and June 1928, according to RG&JS.

Engine # 67,701 = Apr 2, 1928
Engine # 165,727 = Jun 1, 1928
Engine # 224,277 = Jul 2, 1928

According to Pluck's daily production numbers:
http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie...n%20Charts.pdf

[southfork]

Thanks, guys.

[moasew]

My Canadian June 15 has the left hand lever.It is number 19218.

Does anyone have a diagram/explanation/parts required to make the change to separate emergency brake shoes after the recall in early 1928? This change still allowed to keep the lever on the left I understand ?

[Hoogah]

Originally Posted by moasew

My Canadian June 15 has the left hand lever.It is number 19218.

Does anyone have a diagram/explanation/parts required to make the change to separate emergency brake shoes after the recall in early 1928? This change still allowed to keep the lever on the left I understand ?

My Canadian built/Australian assembled phaeton is June 28 on the firewall and originally had the early hand brake setup.

Haven't heard of the fix you mentioned. The method the previous owner of my car used to make the change was to jack the car up and roll a 28-29 chassis under it!

[Jim Mason]

112,xxx has it on the left and also has smooth pedals

[Gabalus]

My Phaeton ( 6/3/28 ) has the brake level on front of the trans.

[Not George]

196xxx 16 June 28 front of trans.

[pooch]

Originally Posted by Hoogah

My Canadian built/Australian assembled phaeton is June 28 on the firewall and originally had the early hand brake setup.

Haven't heard of the fix you mentioned. The method the previous owner of my car used to make the change was to jack the car up and roll a 28-29 chassis under it!

Your previous owner was smart.

No numbers on a Canadian chassis, so no one can be 100% certain that the old chassis IS the one it ever came with ....

So a later chassis gets rolled under...again with no number, so who knows?

This has saved changing out ...

service brake cross shaft
brake rods
rear backing plates
rear hubs/drums and linings
emergency brake cross shaft and return springs
gearbox top plate / emergency brake handle
front brake drums ( and possibly backing plates too, dunno )
4 wire wheels (and a spare)

AND, to boot, you gain a single plate clutch, and a 5/8th starter drive.

[moasew]

This is obviously a late reply but my Canadian Chassis does have a number on the chassis. I've decided to stay with the original left E Brake complete with a freshly made like original dust boot ! Car is now 97 per cent complete

Early 1928 (June 15) as attached

[rotorwrench]

The only way that changes in design could be nailed down to a specific serial number would be if all cars were manufactured at one plant that recorded the change. With many branch assembly plants and no records for such specific serial numbers, a range of time is the only thing we have to go on. In most cases, it only has to fall within the ranges stated in the latest judging standards.

If a person reads Pluck's model A frame study, it becomes apparent that nailing this type stuff down is an effort in futility. Too much water under the bridge for most of these old flivers.

[ModelA29]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

The only way that changes in design could be nailed down to a specific serial number would be if all cars were manufactured at one plant that recorded the change. With many branch assembly plants and no records for such specific serial numbers, a range of ti.e is the only thing we have to go on. In most cases, it only has to fall within the ranges stated in the latest judging standards.

If a person reads Pluck's model A frame study, it becomes apparent that nailing this type stuff down is an effort in futility. Too much water under the bridge for most of these old flivers.

That was my thought. If Henry shipped parts in lots - say 5,000 sets of e brake parts and the plant did 1,000 a month it would take them 5 months before they started using the new parts. If a plant was doing 5,000 a month the change would happen the next month.