FORD/MERCURY 1939-1948...Differences (Re-Boot)

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by highbeams

You're so fortunate to have that body number 'plate!

My '33 3w has no body number 'plate' nor any evidence that there ever was one! Very disappointing.

searchlight, 'er...highbeams .....Not all body styles had a body tag...just the ones made by outside suppliers to Ford like Murray or Briggs. Below is one for a '33 Sedan Delivery with a Briggs body tag . The first digits are the body model style.

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

searchlight, 'er...highbeams .....Not all body styles had a body tag...just the ones made by outside suppliers to Ford like Murray or Briggs. Below is one for a '33 Sedan Delivery with a Briggs body tag . The first digits are the body model style.

V8Coopman
The 39 Mercury was the first ALL in house production vehicle Ford produced...From my understanding and readings?? AND our Merc has the body tag as well as our 39 Mercury coupe#959 and 40 Mercury 4 Door Convertible #971
Highbeams, ours is an Early production car SO not sure if that had any bearing on the use of screws instead of rivet's??? Hopefully someone with another 39 can share his body tag plate.

[jayvee34]

IMG_0841.jpgHer is a couple of pics from my 40 Merc sedan of the torque tube and drive shaft that I removed. I installed a c-4 trans with adapters and open drive shaft kit, adapted to the original flathead motor.

The torque tube measures 74 inch's end to end, and the shaft measures 77 7/8 inch's end to end. Don't know if the Ford shaft and torque tube is shorter.

Second picture did not upload, will try again.

[jayvee34]

Here it is -- Sorry!

[tubman]

I have always heard about the Merc's having the pinion gear of the shaft, but this is the first time I've actually seen one. I have to wonder the rationale behind doing it that way.

[jayvee34]

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Originally Posted by tubman

I have always heard about the Merc's having the pinion gear of the shaft, but this is the first time I've actually seen one. I have to wonder the rationale behind doing it that way.

It is pinned and will come off. BTW I have along with these the clutch and pressure plate, very good condition and if anyone needs or wants them, come
get them. "free" E-mail me.

Also the ring gear.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by jayvee34

It is pinned and will come off. BTW I have along with these the clutch and pressure plate, very good condition and if anyone needs or wants them, come
get them. "free" E-mail me.

Also the ring gear.

Hey jayvee .....Is there any way that we could get you to take a close-up picture of the rear of the drive shaft showing the PINION GEAR and how it is "pinned"? Could you please count the number of TEETH on that pinion, as well as on the ring gear?

That is a very generous offer you have made to pass those items on. DD

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[jayvee34]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Hey jayvee .....Is there any way that we could get you to take a close-up picture of the rear of the drive shaft showing the PINION GEAR and how it is "pinned"? Could you please count the number of TEETH on that pinion, as well as on the ring gear?

That is a very generous offer you have made to pass those items on. DD

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Embarrassed, Thought I had seen were it was pinned, after cleaning away the grease I see it was not pinned. But here is a couple of pictures.
Ring gear=39 teeth Pinion gear= 11 3.55 to 1 ratio.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by jayvee34

Embarrassed, Thought I had seen were it was pinned, after cleaning away the grease I see it was not pinned. But here is a couple of pictures.
Ring gear=39 teeth Pinion gear= 11 3.55 to 1 ratio.

Thank you, jayvee! This is a sort of 'mystery' part that many of us have heard about over the years, yet never really seen one. If possible, would you stand back just a little so that we can see about 18" or so of the rear of that shaft? And, could you possibly take a picture of the center portion of that torque tube where it looks like there is a sleeve joining the front and rear? Again, kind of a mystery part only found on the early Mercs. Thanks again! DD

[jayvee34]

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Her they are!!

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by jayvee34

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Her they are!!

Thank you for that, Friend! DD

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[Jebo]

I kinda think the 40 merc floor pans match up 41 ford floor pan.

[cdan34]

I have a '39 Lincoln Coupe and the wishbone ball (rubber bushing) didn't last too long. Possibly a cheaper version and couldn't take the small oil leaks from v12 or trans.

Or maybe the ball diameter is different for the Lincoln ?? and I installed the wrong one !

[cdan34]

Does anyone know if there is a difference in the wishbone rubber ball dimensions between the early Ford and Lincoln ?

Thanks

[Randy in ca]

Originally Posted by cdan34

Does anyone know if there is a difference in the wishbone rubber ball dimensions between the early Ford and Lincoln ?

Thanks

It appears that Lincoln is the same as Mercury: 99A-3446
Boos & Herrel should be able to confirm.

According to this picture they're definitely different than Ford.

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