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pitchblack49 · 05-30-2010, 10:48 AM

Well here is another shot for some help

Long story short I inherited a 49 Ford panel from my father when he passed away, I was only eleven years old and well the truck was apart longer than I had been alive.... Anyways most of the body and frame restoration is complete so.... I purchased a 302 from an 82 mustang that is stroked to a 347 about two years ago now and I am looking to install. I was thinking hey nice little hot rod motor, well the problem is I refuse to hack my frame apart to install the weld in kits.... I can throw a four bolt main Chevy motor in tomorrow I already have the kit for that but are there any kits out there for a Ford????? I eventually want to put the flat head back so hacking is not an option nor do I know if I posses the skills to complete! HELP PLEASE!!

<-- me lol!

Thank you,
Patrick

harry goebel · 05-30-2010, 11:06 AM

Patrick, the best advice I could give you is, put the flat head back in. It would be a lot more valuable to you and that is probably what your father would have wanted to do. Street Rods are a dine a dozen, it is only original once.

Angledrive · 05-30-2010, 11:09 AM

I second that. You can build a nice 8BA with plenty of power to get you in trouble. Patrick, get in touch with Vic Piano. He will set you in the right direction.

Flathead Fever · 05-30-2010, 02:41 PM

I third it, put the flathead back in and don't hack up anything.
The 347 Ford is an awesome little engine and that would be my second choice. Under no circumstances should you contaminate your Ford Panel or any Ford with a small block Chevy. They're great engines but Chevy engines belong in Chevy's and Ford engines belong in Fords. It's going to cost you a little more to build a flathead over a small block Chevy but you will more than make up the difference in the value of the panel when your done.
You went on a flathead Ford site, what other responses did you think you would get?

Jerry

denverslim · 05-30-2010, 03:08 PM

One, two, three, four!
What-a-we fightin' for?!...slim

HOTRODPRIMER · 05-30-2010, 04:07 PM

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Patrick,,this is one that I am going across the fence on,,normal I would say go ahead and stick the 302 in the truck,,it is a Ford engine,,,but you said eventually you want a Flathead,,,so why not do it now,,, sell the engine and use the money to buy or build a nice Flathead.

Once you start cutting it's hard to put it back to original style. HRP

26 roadster · 05-30-2010, 06:39 PM

It only takes 6 little words to say it ALL, REAL MOTORS DON'T HAVE VALVE COVERS,,,,,,,,,

paul2748 · 05-30-2010, 07:39 PM

If you decide to go ahead with the 302/347, Brockman (the muffler company) has a kit. I know nothing about it, just saw it in their catalog.

lpgambler · 05-30-2010, 08:38 PM

I drive the same combo you are asking about, I bult a bolt in tube crossmember to run under the engine, and added the bolt sleeve to it,,Mid 60's motor mounts will be needed..No dollers involved only time...Larry

pitchblack49 · 05-30-2010, 10:25 PM

Thank you all very much for your help!

Two years no replies now one site and I am torn Flathead or Small block..... Either way I really appreciate everything@ Once agian thank you for everything and I am sure you will hear from me agian soon!

toby · 06-01-2010, 04:44 PM

I have an article that shows how to install a 302/C4 in a Shoebox. All drawings are included for fabricating the motor mounts, trans mount and the modification to a Maverick/Comet rear end. Please email me @ [email protected] and I will send you the article by "snail mail". The article is from the 49-51 Ford/ Merc Newsletter.

Toby

Newaygo Kid · 06-02-2010, 08:51 AM

Patrick, the 302 makes more power will be more trouble free, but the Flathead is the coolest hot rod motor on the planet nothing compares and you will not regret going with the flatty good luck, Chris

Vic Piano · 06-02-2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angledrive

I second that. You can build a nice 8BA with plenty of power to get you in trouble. Patrick, get in touch with Vic Piano. He will set you in the right direction.

For me the only direction is to keep the Flathead in it. You can build a stock Flathead or modified Flathead with all the "eye candy"

, either way, in my opinion you can't go wrong keeping the Panel Flathead powered.

Milt/Las Vegas · 06-02-2010, 10:06 AM

Chassis engineering makes bolt in motor mounts,trans mounts,and mustang II crossmember.A C4 trans requires no cutting.

05-30-2010, 10:48 AM	#1
pitchblack49 Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Youngwood, PA Posts: 4	302 help!! Well here is another shot for some help Long story short I inherited a 49 Ford panel from my father when he passed away, I was only eleven years old and well the truck was apart longer than I had been alive.... Anyways most of the body and frame restoration is complete so.... I purchased a 302 from an 82 mustang that is stroked to a 347 about two years ago now and I am looking to install. I was thinking hey nice little hot rod motor, well the problem is I refuse to hack my frame apart to install the weld in kits.... I can throw a four bolt main Chevy motor in tomorrow I already have the kit for that but are there any kits out there for a Ford????? I eventually want to put the flat head back so hacking is not an option nor do I know if I posses the skills to complete! HELP PLEASE!! <-- me lol! Thank you, Patrick

05-30-2010, 11:06 AM	#2
harry goebel Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 74	Re: 302 help!! Patrick, the best advice I could give you is, put the flat head back in. It would be a lot more valuable to you and that is probably what your father would have wanted to do. Street Rods are a dine a dozen, it is only original once.

05-30-2010, 11:09 AM	#3
Angledrive Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeland Florida Posts: 310	Re: 302 help!! I second that. You can build a nice 8BA with plenty of power to get you in trouble. Patrick, get in touch with Vic Piano. He will set you in the right direction.

05-30-2010, 02:41 PM	#4
Flathead Fever Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,494	Re: 302 help!! I third it, put the flathead back in and don't hack up anything. The 347 Ford is an awesome little engine and that would be my second choice. Under no circumstances should you contaminate your Ford Panel or any Ford with a small block Chevy. They're great engines but Chevy engines belong in Chevy's and Ford engines belong in Fords. It's going to cost you a little more to build a flathead over a small block Chevy but you will more than make up the difference in the value of the panel when your done. You went on a flathead Ford site, what other responses did you think you would get? Jerry

05-30-2010, 03:08 PM	#5
denverslim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ehh...Denver Posts: 196	Re: 302 help!! One, two, three, four! What-a-we fightin' for?!...slim

05-30-2010, 04:07 PM	#6
HOTRODPRIMER Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Upstate,South Carolina Posts: 512	Re: 302 help!! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Patrick,,this is one that I am going across the fence on,,normal I would say go ahead and stick the 302 in the truck,,it is a Ford engine,,,but you said eventually you want a Flathead,,,so why not do it now,,, sell the engine and use the money to buy or build a nice Flathead. Once you start cutting it's hard to put it back to original style. HRP __________________ ‘When one door closes, another opens. But we often look so regretfully upon the closed door that we don’t see the one which has opened for us.’ Alexander Graham Bell

05-30-2010, 06:39 PM	#7
26 roadster Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So. Or Posts: 95	Re: 302 help!! It only takes 6 little words to say it ALL, REAL MOTORS DON'T HAVE VALVE COVERS,,,,,,,,,

05-30-2010, 07:39 PM	#8
paul2748 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 4,406	Re: 302 help!! If you decide to go ahead with the 302/347, Brockman (the muffler company) has a kit. I know nothing about it, just saw it in their catalog.

05-30-2010, 08:38 PM	#9
lpgambler Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brookville , Pa. Posts: 415	Re: 302 help!! I drive the same combo you are asking about, I bult a bolt in tube crossmember to run under the engine, and added the bolt sleeve to it,,Mid 60's motor mounts will be needed..No dollers involved only time...Larry

05-30-2010, 10:25 PM	#10
pitchblack49 Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Youngwood, PA Posts: 4	Re: 302 help!! Thank you all very much for your help! Two years no replies now one site and I am torn Flathead or Small block..... Either way I really appreciate everything@ Once agian thank you for everything and I am sure you will hear from me agian soon!

06-01-2010, 04:44 PM	#11
toby Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 476	Re: 302 help!! I have an article that shows how to install a 302/C4 in a Shoebox. All drawings are included for fabricating the motor mounts, trans mount and the modification to a Maverick/Comet rear end. Please email me @ [email protected] and I will send you the article by "snail mail". The article is from the 49-51 Ford/ Merc Newsletter. Toby

06-02-2010, 08:51 AM	#12
Newaygo Kid Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: croton pond michigan Posts: 47	Re: 302 help!! Patrick, the 302 makes more power will be more trouble free, but the Flathead is the coolest hot rod motor on the planet nothing compares and you will not regret going with the flatty good luck, Chris

06-02-2010, 10:06 AM	#14
Milt/Las Vegas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Las Vegas,Nv/Rainier,Or Posts: 450	Re: 302 help!! Chassis engineering makes bolt in motor mounts,trans mounts,and mustang II crossmember.A C4 trans requires no cutting. __________________ Milt/Las Vegas