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Yotehunter66 · 09-16-2018, 03:53 PM

Yeah I read that somewhere. I need to figure out who made this one.

Kahuna · 09-16-2018, 05:19 PM

Set the gap at .030" Should be close

Yotehunter66 · 09-16-2018, 06:06 PM

Who's the teapot guru on here if I need to get it rebuilt?

Oldmics · 09-16-2018, 08:36 PM

Sal"s the man for teapots. Contact scacala thru a P.M. and as a plus he"s in your neck of the woods !

Oldmics

scicala · 09-16-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yotehunter66

Who's the teapot guru on here if I need to get it rebuilt?

I can hep you with whatever you need for your teapot carb. I've been doing them for a long time.

Sal Cicala [email protected] (586) 612-1650.

Yotehunter66 · 09-17-2018, 07:39 AM

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Yotehunter66 · 09-17-2018, 11:29 AM

I pulled the carb back off and noticed that the gasket lines up with with one of the small holes over one of the vacuum passages. The gasket came with the kit but is it the right one?

scicala · 09-17-2018, 12:08 PM

Yes, that gasket will work OK. To make the kits universal, they put in larger bore holes so it would also work on the '56 Lincoln teapot which had larger throttle bores.

I got your email and replied just now.

Sal

Yotehunter66 · 09-23-2018, 12:44 PM

Getting ready to pull the timing cover off to check the alignment. I've read about the 12 links between the marks. Anything else I should look for. Chain is new but my dad thinks he timed it like any normal engine. Twelve pins I should say. Not links.

dmsfrr · 09-23-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yotehunter66

Chain is new but my dad thinks he timed it like any normal engine. ...
... Twelve pins I should say. Not links.

Yes... "pins" not links.

And if you accidentally think this timing chain position has anything to do with cyl #1 being at TDC
Don't let it confuse you, because it doesn't.

see attached image

Yotehunter66 · 09-23-2018, 03:08 PM

Noticed that the oil pan bolts to the timing cover. What a PITA!

KULTULZ · 09-24-2018, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by yotehunter66

noticed that the oil pan bolts to the timing cover. What a pita!

-THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE -

Yotehunter66 · 10-17-2018, 07:01 AM

Finally got the timing cover off. I have the rotor pointing at #1 spark plug wire and this is where the timing marks are currently.

scicala · 10-17-2018, 10:45 AM

It looks like your not getting any ignition advance with no vacuum lines to the distributor. The one port on the diaphragm appears to have the threads stripped too.

Sal

dmsfrr · 10-17-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Yotehunter66

Finally got the timing cover off. I have the rotor pointing at #1 spark plug wire and this is where the timing marks are currently.

Ignore the position of the distributor rotor. It's not relevant at this point.

With the spark plugs out, use the damper pulley bolt to rotate the crankshaft until the keyway and timing mark on the crank gear are in the correct position, see attached image, then look for the timing mark on the cam gear.

Looking at your 2nd photo, you may need to rotate the crankshaft another full turn.

It should match the diagram, if it doesn't that's a problem to fix.

dmsfrr · 10-17-2018, 12:31 PM

Are you sure the timing chain is new? It looks a bit loose in this photo.
.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotehunter66

. . . Chain is new . . .

KULTULZ · 10-17-2018, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmsfrr

Ignore the position of the distributor rotor. It's not relevant at this point.

With the spark plugs out, use the damper pulley bolt to rotate the crankshaft until the keyway and timing mark on the crank gear are in the correct position, see attached image, then look for the timing mark on the cam gear.

The referring photo you are showing is a multi-index crank gear w/ DBL roller chain and may cause confusion.

Try this one-

KULTULZ · 10-17-2018, 01:00 PM

You gotta watch this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Z2L9pgMXU

He's almost as old and ugly as me ...

scicala · 10-17-2018, 06:21 PM

The only thing he said wrong in the video is that there were 12 links on the timing chain between the two dots on the gears. It's actually 12 pins (not links). It makes a difference.

Sal

Yotehunter66 · 10-17-2018, 06:54 PM

He said he changed it but it definately has a lot of slop in it. So when the timing marks are in the proper position where should I expect the rotor to be pointing? Are the marks not TDC for #1 cylinder?

09-16-2018, 03:53 PM	#21
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Yeah I read that somewhere. I need to figure out who made this one.

09-16-2018, 05:19 PM	#22
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Set the gap at .030" Should be close

09-16-2018, 06:06 PM	#23
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Who's the teapot guru on here if I need to get it rebuilt?

09-16-2018, 08:36 PM	#24
Oldmics BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Balto.Md Posts: 382	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Sal"s the man for teapots. Contact scacala thru a P.M. and as a plus he"s in your neck of the woods ! Oldmics

09-17-2018, 07:39 AM	#26
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Email sent.

09-17-2018, 11:29 AM	#27
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild I pulled the carb back off and noticed that the gasket lines up with with one of the small holes over one of the vacuum passages. The gasket came with the kit but is it the right one?

09-17-2018, 12:08 PM	#28
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,801	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Yes, that gasket will work OK. To make the kits universal, they put in larger bore holes so it would also work on the '56 Lincoln teapot which had larger throttle bores. I got your email and replied just now. Sal

09-23-2018, 12:44 PM	#29
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Getting ready to pull the timing cover off to check the alignment. I've read about the 12 links between the marks. Anything else I should look for. Chain is new but my dad thinks he timed it like any normal engine. Twelve pins I should say. Not links.

09-23-2018, 03:08 PM	#31
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Noticed that the oil pan bolts to the timing cover. What a PITA!

10-17-2018, 07:01 AM	#33
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild Finally got the timing cover off. I have the rotor pointing at #1 spark plug wire and this is where the timing marks are currently.

10-17-2018, 10:45 AM	#34
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,801	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild It looks like your not getting any ignition advance with no vacuum lines to the distributor. The one port on the diaphragm appears to have the threads stripped too. Sal

10-17-2018, 01:00 PM	#38
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A GALAXIE FAR, FAR AWAY Posts: 7,384	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild You gotta watch this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Z2L9pgMXU He's almost as old and ugly as me ... __________________ ***** "Last Sunday, I caught him makin' eyes at Idell Bushey durin' preachin'. And I know what they do up there in the hills when they say they're possum huntin'. They're just sittin' around the campfire, drinkin' hard cider, hittin' each other on the shoulder and hollerin' 'flinch!'." ― Charlene Darling (Daughter of Briscoe Darling)

10-17-2018, 06:21 PM	#39
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,801	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild The only thing he said wrong in the video is that there were 12 links on the timing chain between the two dots on the gears. It's actually 12 pins (not links). It makes a difference. Sal

10-17-2018, 06:54 PM	#40
Yotehunter66 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Clayton, Michigan Posts: 48	Re: 56 T-bird rebuild He said he changed it but it definately has a lot of slop in it. So when the timing marks are in the proper position where should I expect the rotor to be pointing? Are the marks not TDC for #1 cylinder?