1943 Ford truck

[dicks41]

I have a Ford truck with a serial number 99TF-544714 that I am trying to identify the year on. It falls between the end of the 42 production and the beginning 46 production. It has the Marmon-Harrington conversion along with the Sno Go unit. Left hand steering and right hand gauges. Anyone have those war year serial numbers? Dick

[Snouts out]

Do you have a photo? It would help with the ID!

[Mart]

Where are you based, Dick? Are you saying the dash is for a RHD? Are you in a RHD country?

Here in the UK we don't get lots of snow blowers but we do have road sweepers. These are normally built LHD so the driver can judge getting close to the kerb better. I just wondered if the lhd steering rhd gauges is an indication that snowblowers may be built along similar lines.

Mart.

[38 coupe]

I'll see if Stu can drop in and help. Stu is very knowledgeable about the late 40s -early 50s Marmon-Herrington trucks and may be able to help you with information.

[Bruce in southern OH]

Photos Please!!!!

[truckdog62563]

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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Fred, but I'm not sure I have many answers. I don't find the Model 99TF for starters. A Model 99T is a 1939 big truck with 134" wheel base, and 95 h.p. engine. I don't have a reference that further defines the TF. As said above, pictures would help either verify the 1939 body style or disqualify that if the truck has the 1940 and later big truck sheet metal.

The other data that would help would be the info from the Marmon-Herrington large data plate. I have a M-H big truck parts listing from 1939 that shows it applies to M-H Models F5, F6, FF5, and FF6. These numbers bear no relationship to the similar post war Ford model numbers. The differences between the four M-H models are based on H.P., 85 vs 95, and wheelbase. The M-H model number would help you either confirm a 1939 origin if your model matches what I cited, or would help one of the two real experts that I'll mention to sort things out. The two people are Don Chew of Briton, CO, and Chuck Mantiglia of Chuck's Trucks in Hamden, CT. Don will be difficult to contact because, last I knew, he doesn't use a computer. He is, however, a board member of the American Truck Historical Society and can be tracked down through them. It's also a good organization to join. Chuck is a person you'll want to get to know because, beside his wealth of knowledge, he can help with service and parts needs for your unique truck. Below is his web site. Stu

http://www.chuckstrucksllc.com/startframe.htm

[Capn John]

MERCURY & FORD
239 CID V-8

............1939................99A-1................................................. 99A-101700
............1940................99A-101701.......................................99A-257100
............1941................99A-257101.......................................99A-446700
............1942................99A-446701.......................................99A-539426

WWII PRODUCTION

............1946................99A-650280.......................................99A-1412707
............1947................99A-1412708...................................799A-2002282
............1948................799A-2002283.................................899A-2374315

NOTE: It has come to our attention that there may have been serial numbers beginning with 699 for 1946 vehicles, instead of 99 as listed above.

ALSO, For 1942-1947 Pickups, a letter after the first numbers indicate the size truck: C = 1/2 ton, Y = 1 ton, T = 1 1/2 ton



60 HP PRODUCTION
1937 started with 54-6602
1938 started with 54-358,335
1939 continued from 1938 to 54-506,500
1940 54-506,500 to the end.

There are other number sequences for 4 CYL 32-34, 4 CYL 41-42, 6 CYL 41-48. Some early 1933 model V-8'S used a "40" prefix.

Contributed by Dan Krehbiel, CA

FROM OTHER INTERNET SOURCES!!
The following comes from a publication called Fast Moving Parts for all Ford Products 1928-1946 Catalogue. I picked it up out of Ebay and on the inside cover was the name of the owner, G.H.Jopson, Melford Motors, 621 Elizabeth St, Melbourne.

The decoder is as follows using a random sample number of
C016TF-2265A

C - represents Canadian design
0 - represents the model year for which the part was designed'
8=1938, 9=1939, 0=1940, 1=1941, 2=1942, 3=1943,
4=1944, 5=1945, etc
1 - represents the engine type
1=85H.P. V-8, 2=60H.P. V-8, 9=95H.P. V-8
6 - represents the vehicle wheelbase
1=101" W.B., 8=158" W.B., 6=176" W.B., 4=194" W.B.
Wheelbase is not specified for 134".
T specifies the type of vehicle, A-Passenger, B-Bus,
C-Commercial, D-3/4 Ton, T-Regular Truck, U-Dump,
V-Drop Frame, W-Cab-Over-Engine, Y-1 Ton.
F - designates right-hand drive.

The 2265 designates basic part number and also group number, namely, Brakes. In this case the A relates to Passenger 1928-31.

Thereis more decoding information but relates only to Group Numbers and Years and Models.

Therefore Keefy I believe the F stands for Right-hand drive.

All Canadian-built Ford engines in C.M.P. trucks are prefixed with *G and suffixed with “2F”. The prefix number denotes the engine model year, e.g. 1G is 1940, 2G is 1941, etc.: the “G” denotes a Mercury 32.50 h.p. truck engine fitted with a four-speed gearbox. The suffix “2F” means an export engine for Right hand drive vehicles. Starting number was # 1G-175 on 1 November 1939, and the last 1940 Model unit was # 1G-11500 on 1 October 1940; 1941 Models started at # 2G-205 on 1 October 1940 and ended at # 2G-48148 on 1 November 1941. The last known, so far, engine number is from a late 1945 F.60L, # 5G-11449F. American engines usually have an engine number like this one: 99TF562348. Ford V-8 engine numbers are not stamped on the engine itself but are stamped on the clutch housing

[GrandpasA]

Damn you guys know your shit.. Love it..

[dicks41]

The transmission serial number is very easy to read and is: 99TF-544714. The frame number on the truck is the same. The Marmon Harrington number shows a chassis number: MM6-4-544714. The motor number on the Marmon Harrington also shows the 544714 number. The Sno Go tag also shows a motor number of 544714. I did find a truck just like this one with a serial number of 472367 at the Yankee Air Museum in Belville, Michigan. That particular truck is a 1942 but it does have a 1942 serial number. My information shows this 544714 serial number being after the last 1942 was built but prior to the first 1946 number. Also someone had asked if it's a right hand drive or not. It is a left hand drive but does have the glove box on the left side where the gauges would typically go.

[Mike in Mass]

OK ,Now we RRRREALLY need some photos ! ! !

[Capn John]

CHECK THIS ARTICLE OUT!!

Marmon-Herrington Ford C5A – July/August 2014 Cover Story
http://vintagetruckmagazine.com/1937...gton-ford-c5a/
The 1937 Marmon-Herrington Ford C5A that appears on the cover of the July/August 2014 issue of Vintage Truck magazine is a replica of a prototype truck Marmon-Herrington built for the U.S. Army. It was assembled by Don Chew, a veteran truck enthusiast and renowned historian of four-wheel-drive trucks.

[dicks41]

I was having difficulty posting pictures onto the Ford Barn. Sometimes I have a brain freeze when it comes to computers so I, in turn, put 4 photo's of this truck on my website at: http://www.hotrodgarage.net
If you go to my site and click on "Trucks For Sale" and scroll down to 1943, you can look at those 4 pictures. At least you will have a little insight into what I am talking about. Thanks.

[Bob C]

Very interesting truck. From the info Capn John posted the F designates
right hand drive, must be why the instruments are on the right?

Bob

[Capn John]

There is a 1942 and 1944 at this site. NO DROOLING!!

Mark's Marmon Herrington Garage
http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/th...isman/vehicles

http://marmon-herrington.iblogger.org/truck.html

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by Capn John

There is a 1942 and 1944 at this site. NO DROOLING!

Mark's Marmon Herrington Garage
http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/th...isman/vehicles

http://marmon-herrington.iblogger.org/truck.html

Been looking over my shoulder for the drool police. Can I salivate? And Stu that's a great pic of your '52 F3.

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by dicks41

I was having difficulty posting pictures onto the Ford Barn. Sometimes I have a brain freeze when it comes to computers so I, in turn, put 4 photo's of this truck on my website at: http://www.hotrodgarage.net
If you go to my site and click on "Trucks For Sale" and scroll down to 1943, you can look at those 4 pictures. At least you will have a little insight into what I am talking about. Thanks.

Dick, good to see you here. I have bought 2 trucks from Dick. A '53 F350 flareside and a '47 Ford two ton. They were both exactly as presented and had good clean titles. The '53 is now in Australia by way of Canada, and the '47 is hauling about 1500 feet of lumber today.

[truckdog62563]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

Been looking over my shoulder for the drool police. Can I salivate? And Stu that's a great pic of your '52 F3.

Been a while since it was all together like that. Actually five on Mark's page are mine and only the Ranger is still in one piece. Is that called progress? Hmmm. Stu

[GB SISSON]

I never take them completely apart. I did that once to a motorcyle and once it didn't look like a motorcycle I lost interest and sold it in a basket.

[truckdog62563]

Yeah, I hear you. I've got the chassis of the white truck done, with parts help from the red 52 on Marks site. But body work isn't fun. The green 51 flat bed is a bare chassis that will get parts help from the reddish 50 wrecker. Kevin "Bigwin" over on FTE likes to say "some must die so others can live". With M-Hs it's absolutely true. You can't dial 1(800) and find every fool piece being repop'd. Stu

[JSeery]

It's a lot easier with the photos on this site! Hope you don't mind me moving them over for you, and are these the correct photo?