Industrial vs Non-Industrial Model A Engines...

[Steve Plucker]

Just what were the differences between the Industrial and Non-Industrial Model A engines? What parts, if any, made the differences?

Thanks.

Pluck

[George Miller]

At least some of the engines had a governer to control engine speed. Also I think they had air cleaners on some.

[Gunmetal blue2]

Hi Steve,
The oil fill tube is bigger in diameter in the AA than the Model A engines. sorry Steve that is one part of my truck that I have not took apart. When I do I will send you pics of it.

[Bob C]

Originally Posted by Gunmetal blue2

Hi Steve,
The oil fill tube is bigger in diameter in the AA than the Model A engines. sorry Steve that is one part of my truck that I have not took apart. When I do I will send you pics of it.

Never heard that before, what is the part number?
Sound like a B oil filler.

Bob

[Gold Digger]

I've got 3 at the moment and they all have some kind of cast iron carb that I can't remember the name right now and 2 of them came out of Gleaner combines with the exhaust manifold turned straight back. All 3 have snap in clutches and cam driven governors.

[Bob C]

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Originally Posted by Gold Digger

I've got 3 at the moment and they all have some kind of cast iron carb that I can't remember the name right now and 2 of them came out of Gleaner combines with the exhaust manifold turned straight back. All 3 have snap in clutches and cam driven governors.

Maybe Kingston??

Bob

[Gunmetal blue2]

I forgot the AA vs. A prefix. Steve I sent you a pics of my oil fill tube

[Paul's Garage]

They were used in many farm implements at the time, Gleaner combines used them. Larger oil filler and if I remember correctly they came with a .40 overbore and domed pistons.

[Gold Digger]

One of the Gleaner engines had a add on oil filter on it. I'm curious as to whether it came with it from the factory or was put on by a farmer. It had a oil line connected where the oil pump plug is and the return was a hollow oil pan bolt. Also it had an air filter.

[Gunmetal blue2]

Originally Posted by Paul's Garage

They were used in many farm implements at the time, Gleaner combines used them. Larger oil filler and if I remember correctly they came with a .40 overbore and domed pistons.

Mine has 84,000 miles on it and has std. bore with flat stock pistons.

[Jim Brierley]

some diamond B engines had cams with the fuel-pump lobe but the A grind on them, Claas in Australia for instance.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Jim Brierley

some diamond B engines had cams with the fuel-pump lobe but the A grind on them, Claas in Australia for instance.

Is there any way to ID that kind of cam without using a degree wheel? Thanks

[JohnLaVoy]

We picked this industrial engine up a few years ago. It must have been built in the 29-30 time period. It had an unusual water pump on it that Ford only used then. No number stamped on it. Because of the configuration of the stand it appears the engine could not be taken out once the stand was built around it. Have no idea as to what it operated, but had a four position throttle built into it. Very interesting piece.

[TinCup]

The two Gleaner diamond block motors that I tore into both had the fuel pump lobe on the cam as well as standard pistons. They also both had the larger oil filler tube. The carbs were off of them when we got them. They also both had the exhaust manifold that went to the back. We didn't mic them out but other than the cam I could not see any real differences. They were both stamped on the flywheel housing 1937 manufacture date.

[Bob Bidonde]

Steve,
I have two industrial Model B engines which are the same as Ford built them for production automobiles. However, the companies that employed both engines modified them to suit their applications.
One engine was used to drive a winch in boat yard, so it had a special clutch housing on it to adapt the winch machinery. This engine is now in my Coupe.
The second engine came out of a tractor, and it has a tap inthe water jacket of the cylinder head, a modified exhaust manifold and a second oil drain in the rear main bearing. None of the modifications appear to be made by Ford. This engine resides in my Victoria.
I doubt that Ford had a standard industrial engine, the exception being a large order of engines with unique features. For examples, Ford did provide a high output generator and high compression cylinder head for police radio patrol cars, There was also a special rear main bearing oil drain pipe with a ball check valve in it for trucks that were tipped for unloading.

[Rowdy]

I was wondering the same thing. Seems I have had afew of them in various conditions. Sold 3 last year and have one put back for future use. It needs rebuilt, but hands down the best block I have ever seen other than external surface rust. Rod

[Clem Clement]

Steve,
I have a Ford Script head which I was going to sell at Hershey. Someone there said they are diamond heads. By golly this o e has the diamond on one edge. Are all Diamond heads Script? Same shape?