New Water Pump with Face Seal

[Joe K]

Originally Posted by Hotrodfil

I've had a couple of A water pumps with the face seals - I wondered who'd made them.

You can tell these because they have the "turret" impeller rather than a vane impeller. Necked down a little bit at the front as they usually have but a bushing instead of an actual bearing. Otherwise they look very much as the previous packed pump.

Ebay pix below (won't last)



Sometimes these get rebuilt by time and enthusiasm and converted over to a vane impeller - usually by boring out the seal area and pressing in the usual brass packing gland and spline box. Maybe boring not required? The casting MAY take on the brass without modification. I've seen a V8 pump time period "rebuild kit" on Ebay (hey, look at that - so THATS where Ford went with the Model A Pump) and the inner bearing/seal might just slip in.

If so, it would be consistent with the way Henry Ford "design progressed." Use as much of what you already make in new production.

I have one of these Ford face seal pumps but as a "placekeeper." Something to show visitors or something for people to look at in the back of Avatar at shows. I don't use it since I think the earlier design is a better (stronger) design, Nose bearing advantage.

Now with Terry's pump, that box of about 20 "regular" burned out pumps that has followed me around has even LESS value at the flea market?

Maybe instead of making an "all new pump" Terry should simply produce the "face seal rebuild" kit as Ford likely did, and offer it as "alternative" to a packed gland?

Whatever. Do what makes sense...

Joe K