The Ford Barn

Bill · 12-24-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmarks

What is it's value?

If it was on my list with driver quality chrome I would pay $75/100. JMHO Bill. Am I even close?

woodiewagon46 · 12-24-2015, 02:46 PM

I think I may have found a partial answer. In the 1938-1946 Genuine Ford Parts and Accessory Book (the Red Book), it shows the 1942 Front Bumper with the 11A-17768 Guard and License Plate Bracket Assembly. They are showing the "guard" as what is pictured on posts 11 and 13, the lower bar that the license plate bracket attaches to. In the '41 thru '48 V-8 Ford book it states, "the installation of the front license plate bracket was discontinued March 1st, 1946". Also, in the Evolutionary Changes for the '41 to '48 Ford, it states "the front license plate bracket shall be discontinued 02/28/46", close to the March date. I would bet that Ford had '42 bumper guards and plate brackets left over, remember no car's were built for the public in '43, '44 and '45, and installed them on some early '46 cars until the stock was depleted. Under the accessories section it lists 21A-18412, Guard, center Bumper Front but does not show a picture of it.

Lawson Cox · 12-24-2015, 03:31 PM

Not all states required both front and rear tags. Maybe that's the reason.

Graeme / New Zealand · 12-24-2015, 03:49 PM

My last v8 an early 47 had the lower guard. Car was NZ assembled from the Commonwealth Ford plant in Canada.

GB

mercman from oz · 12-24-2015, 06:33 PM

If you take a close look at this 1946 Ford Sportsman, you will notice two Slots for the Front Licence Plate. It would seem that this car was assembled in the middle of the change, as it still retains the cross bar. The Slots did not appear on early 1946 Fords.

woodiewagon46 · 12-24-2015, 06:59 PM

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My '46 Station Wagon is an April car and has the cross bar. I think that Ford was using the stock up and the Sportsman fell into that category that had both. I find it fascinating that as big a company as Ford was, they kept meticulous records on some things, and were lax on others. Another Ford mystery!

skidmarks · 12-24-2015, 07:36 PM

Not sure if its worth anything. But I also got the bumper I took the grill guard off of but its bent. I do not think it has the slots In it so I guess all of the pieces came from a early production car. Any difference in the bumper irons or the splash apron? The car was a rust free 4 dr that was stripped down when I got it. The body is in the classifieds. Anything else special on the early production 46 cars?

waterboychuck · 12-25-2015, 10:43 AM

My 46 coupe has the cross bar and it also has the tool compartment in the trunk. I also took a 46 bumper off a 47 which I believe to be an early production car and it has the two slits in the bumper.

waterboychuck · 03-11-2017, 09:10 PM

In watching the attached movie I saw a 46 rolling off the line with just uprights but seconds later at 21:36 Ford is presenting a sedan to president Truman. Check out the grill guard. Did Edsel go out and buy an aftermarket guard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrOi...ature=youtu.be

rotorwrench · 03-12-2017, 09:48 AM

Edsel was a non combatant casualty of WWII but his dad Henry was still around for a year or so more. Henry Ford II was just getting settled into the position of running things around this time frame.

12-24-2015, 02:46 PM	#22
woodiewagon46 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,568	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd I think I may have found a partial answer. In the 1938-1946 Genuine Ford Parts and Accessory Book (the Red Book), it shows the 1942 Front Bumper with the 11A-17768 Guard and License Plate Bracket Assembly. They are showing the "guard" as what is pictured on posts 11 and 13, the lower bar that the license plate bracket attaches to. In the '41 thru '48 V-8 Ford book it states, "the installation of the front license plate bracket was discontinued March 1st, 1946". Also, in the Evolutionary Changes for the '41 to '48 Ford, it states "the front license plate bracket shall be discontinued 02/28/46", close to the March date. I would bet that Ford had '42 bumper guards and plate brackets left over, remember no car's were built for the public in '43, '44 and '45, and installed them on some early '46 cars until the stock was depleted. Under the accessories section it lists 21A-18412, Guard, center Bumper Front but does not show a picture of it.

12-24-2015, 03:31 PM	#23
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,119	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd Not all states required both front and rear tags. Maybe that's the reason. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

12-24-2015, 06:33 PM	#25
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 12,577	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd If you take a close look at this 1946 Ford Sportsman, you will notice two Slots for the Front Licence Plate. It would seem that this car was assembled in the middle of the change, as it still retains the cross bar. The Slots did not appear on early 1946 Fords.

12-24-2015, 06:59 PM	#26
woodiewagon46 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,568	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My '46 Station Wagon is an April car and has the cross bar. I think that Ford was using the stock up and the Sportsman fell into that category that had both. I find it fascinating that as big a company as Ford was, they kept meticulous records on some things, and were lax on others. Another Ford mystery!

12-24-2015, 07:36 PM	#27
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,841	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd Not sure if its worth anything. But I also got the bumper I took the grill guard off of but its bent. I do not think it has the slots In it so I guess all of the pieces came from a early production car. Any difference in the bumper irons or the splash apron? The car was a rust free 4 dr that was stripped down when I got it. The body is in the classifieds. Anything else special on the early production 46 cars?

12-25-2015, 10:43 AM	#28
waterboychuck Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nine Mile Falls,WA Posts: 900	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd My 46 coupe has the cross bar and it also has the tool compartment in the trunk. I also took a 46 bumper off a 47 which I believe to be an early production car and it has the two slits in the bumper. __________________ The sign of a good craftsman is how well they cover up their mistakes.

03-11-2017, 09:10 PM	#29
waterboychuck Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nine Mile Falls,WA Posts: 900	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd In watching the attached movie I saw a 46 rolling off the line with just uprights but seconds later at 21:36 Ford is presenting a sedan to president Truman. Check out the grill guard. Did Edsel go out and buy an aftermarket guard? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrOi...ature=youtu.be __________________ The sign of a good craftsman is how well they cover up their mistakes.

03-12-2017, 09:48 AM	#30
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 18,010	Re: 1946 ford grill gaurd Edsel was a non combatant casualty of WWII but his dad Henry was still around for a year or so more. Henry Ford II was just getting settled into the position of running things around this time frame.