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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Acworth GA
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Just installed the shortened arm from Snyders. I like the steering feel a great deal over the stock one. The wheels still turn the same angle left and right as before, just requires a bit more steering wheel rotation, as the mechanics dictate. Just a matter of taste and muscle, I guess. 34 psi in the tires.
I could not get the repro arm to tighten up on the sector shaft. Torqued it to about 100 ft-lbs and the bolt snapped, still never was completely tight. Solved this issue by coating the sector shaft with stud lock grade loctite and giving it 24 hours to set up (with a new retaining bolt, of course). I overhauled the drag link with new steel ends. Steering wheel centering not a noticeable issue for me. Overall, I like it, but some revision to material, process or tolerances needs to happen to allow the arm to clamp down properly. John
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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In terms of steering, after I installed shocks the 1.25" of steering play was hardly an issue... At this point I cannot imagine trying a short arm... at least on my car.
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Windy City
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Simple math, whatever steering wheel force you need to grind the tires into a turn while not rolling (parking) you will need 20% less force (torque) on the steering wheel with the 6.0" arm. You will also need to move the steering wheel more to make the same change in direction while driving. To me a shorter arm feels like you are driving a bus. Major wheel movements to make minor directional adjustments. I got rid of mine, went back to stock. Also, whatever total free play you have in the wheel with the stock arm will increase proportionally with a shortened arm. Some 7-tooth steering boxes may not have sufficient angular range to run the steering linkage lock to lock with the shorter arm. All the 2-tooth boxes can accommodate the greater angular range required but you may notice an increase in the slight slight off-center 30-31 steering wheel while driving straight ahead. To fix that requires an adjustable (or slightly shortened) drag link. Before the new forged shorter arms were available it was common practice to cut and weld arms to varying shorter lengths. An stock arm shortened 1" (to 6.5") will go lock to lock on a 7-tooth car and require 13.3% less force. |
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
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Thanks to MikeK for the info.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New Zealand
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Trying again
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Australia
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Glad you got it sorted. Just had my own computer drama where the cable fell off the disc drive (a known problem on this model) . Thought I'd lost everything for a bit...That pitman arm looks impressive. I've just bought a supposedly rebuilt RHD 1929 steering column which looks like it has a 1932 two tooth type box put on it with a pitman arm that looks somewhat like that. I guess the idea is that the ball can be changed which it can't in the Model A box. I'm hoping it will work out. A shortened one would be a touch of luxury tho ....
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Location: Australia
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