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fordfixer 05-15-2026 02:44 PM

Cotter pins
 

Just wondering what people are using for cotter pins inside the engine. I have another car in the shop for connecting rod failure, do to failed cotter pins.
Everything I can find is made in China.

stevests 05-15-2026 03:36 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

There are several "Made in USA" cotter pin suppliers - use Google.

ModelA29 05-15-2026 06:30 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

Orig castellated nuts only use about 4 full threads. Get some ARP 300-8333 nuts and forget the cotter pins.

Big hammer 05-15-2026 06:32 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

Aircraft supply companies should have stainless steel cotter pins .

Brad in Germany 05-15-2026 08:02 PM

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Only use genuine Nettlefolds cotter pins for Ford cars:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1778892785

Brad in Maryland

PS: Good luck finding them however.....:rolleyes:



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nkaminar 05-16-2026 05:13 AM

Re: Cotter pins
 

The stainless pins that Big Hammer introduced are also available at McMasters-Carr. Those pins are twice as hard as the usual steel pins.

Y-Blockhead 05-16-2026 10:22 AM

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Cotters are available at Bolt Depot also. https://boltdepot.com/Cotter_pins

J Franklin 05-16-2026 11:11 AM

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Even where I would use cotter pins, I use blue LockTight as insurance.

katy 05-16-2026 11:46 AM

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Why do cotter pins fail?

bobbader 05-16-2026 04:00 PM

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Fordfixer, hard to imagine a cotter pin failing if properly sized and properly installed. Before we all start dropping our oil pans to investigate, can you relate the failure and ensuing issue you experienced. Thanks.

old31 05-16-2026 04:43 PM

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Oh, dont talk to me about broken cotter pins. I found this on the bottom of my oil pan one day.

mcgarrett 05-16-2026 06:57 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by katy (Post 2451768)
Why do cotter pins fail?

A few things I can think of are: inferior metallurgy resulting in premature metal fatigue, incorrect size pin required for application, improper installation, loosening of nut causing a shearing effect on the pin, installing a used pin, and centrifugal force acting against all of the above. There are probably other factors also.

Synchro909 05-16-2026 07:00 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

This is a cotter pin!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotter_(pin)

nkaminar 05-16-2026 07:05 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

Old 31, Those are not cotter pins (as Synchro would say, split pins) but pieces of round wire. They look like pieces of safety wire. They look like they were twisted together at some point.

old31 05-18-2026 10:04 AM

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NK, you are 100% correct. I never picked up on that; I just assumed that they were cotter pins.

OK, where in the hell did twisted wire come from? Geeeez.

David in San Antonio 05-18-2026 10:17 AM

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The Wretched Roadster had the bottom few turns of the broken-off oil pump spring sitting in the bottom of the pan. Amazing how these engines will tolerate certain types of degradation without stopping.

Y-Blockhead 05-18-2026 10:42 AM

Re: Cotter pins
 

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Originally Posted by old31 (Post 2452033)
NK, you are 100% correct. I never picked up on that; I just assumed that they were cotter pins.

OK, where in the hell did twisted wire come from? Geeeez.

If only we knew the secrets these Ol' Girls hold...

cadillac512 05-18-2026 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by old31 (Post 2452033)
NK, you are 100% correct. I never picked up on that; I just assumed that they were cotter pins.

OK, where in the hell did twisted wire come from? Geeeez.


Well ya know...back on the farm when we didn't have cotter pins we used baling wire. That picture sure looks like it may be just that. On a rod nut it's less than ideal though!

nkaminar 05-18-2026 01:16 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

100% original Model T's were found to have nails used instead of cotter pins in various places. There was a lot of pressure in the early days to get the cars out so an assembler would grab whatever worked.

john charlton 05-18-2026 01:31 PM

Re: Cotter pins
 

The GKN advert the " Birmingham" is big English city not the one in AL .In UK cotter pin is also known as "split pin" .

John in rain showers Suffolk County England


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