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qmdv 04-23-2024 09:21 PM

Generator and Fan
 

I have a generator and fan assembly that I do not know what it is off off. I think it a good idea to identify it before I put it up for sale. The pully is 3 3/4 inch diameter. All the others I have are just over 4 1/4. Could it be off of a 60HP engine?

Oh the fan is like most others I have

ndnchf 04-24-2024 06:20 AM

Re: Generator and Fan
 

There are many different generators, pulleys and fans. Please post a few clear photos of it. I can probably tell you more with photos.

19Fordy 04-24-2024 11:43 AM

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Yup, please post plenty of photos of your fan assembly.

qmdv 04-28-2024 10:25 AM

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I assumed that a V8-60 had a smaller crank pully. And that they would have a smaller fan/ generator pully to achieve the same fan speed

ndnchf 04-28-2024 10:30 AM

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Yes, V8 60 has a smaller crank and generator pulley. I looked through my spare pulleys and found one V8 60 pulley. They are hard to find and identify. There are two, maybe three different V8 60 pulleys.

petehoovie 04-28-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by qmdv (Post 2307442)
I assumed that a V8-60 had a smaller crank pully. And that they would have a smaller fan/ generator pully to achieve the same fan speed

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1714317485

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1714317485

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1714317485

Terry,OH 04-28-2024 04:00 PM

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Appears like the 33-35 Generator. If you clean the body you will find a date code. The pulley usually has a part number as well as the front mounting embossed into the metal.

DavidG 04-28-2024 04:08 PM

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Mke that '34-'36 as an original '33 V8 generator does not have a vented front bracket.

Kube 04-28-2024 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ndnchf (Post 2307445)
Yes, V8 60 has a smaller crank and generator pulley. I looked through my spare pulleys and found one V8 60 pulley. They are hard to find and identify. There are two, maybe three different V8 60 pulleys.

Why would a 60HP have a smaller pulley than the 85HP? Both have identical 6v electrical systems and both need to charge at the same rate.
In 1940 there were two different pulleys. The first (early) design was larger in diameter than the later design.
That had nothing to do with 60 or 85 applications.

ndnchf 04-28-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 2307518)
Why would a 60HP have a smaller pulley than the 85HP? Both have identical 6v electrical systems and both need to charge at the same rate.
In 1940 there were two different pulleys. The first (early) design was larger in diameter than the later design.
That had nothing to do with 60 or 85 applications.

I don't know, I'm not an engineer :D

There were a lot of different pulleys available over the years. A mid - late 1930s car with big V8 typically used a pulley .408" to .438 diameter. The V8 60 used a 3.68" diameter pulley in '37. In '38-'39 it could be either 3.71" or 3.40" diameter pulley. In 1940, the 01A-1000-B V8 60 generator used either a 3.12" or 3.18" diameter pulley.

On the left is a 1937 V8 60 pulley, 3.68" diameter. PN BB-10130-B. On the right is a big V8 pulley 4.38" diameter. PN 68-10130-C.

Kube 04-28-2024 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ndnchf (Post 2307546)
I don't know, I'm not an engineer :D

There were a lot of different pulleys available over the years. A mid - late 1930s car with big V8 typically used a pulley .408" to .438 diameter. The V8 60 used a 3.68" diameter pulley in '37. In '38-'39 it could be either 3.71" or 3.40" diameter pulley. In 1940, the 01A-1000-B V8 60 generator used either a 3.12" or 3.18" diameter pulley.

On the left is a 1937 V8 60 pulley, 3.68" diameter. PN BB-10130-B. On the right is a big V8 pulley 4.38" diameter. PN 68-10130-C.

I'm guessing you are getting your information from a Ford parts book. Am I correct?
If you are, you must keep in mind, the parts listed are for service and in many cases Ford "made do" with what worked.
In 1940, there were two pulleys regardless of vehicle application. The first design was 3 11/16" diameter. The later design was 3 3/16" diameter.
I'm not certain where you got 3.12 and 3.18. Do you really think Ford made two pulleys that were a mere .060" different from each other?

ndnchf 04-28-2024 06:01 PM

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It does seem odd, but I'm reading this out of the Ford geen book. Just reporting what I read.

petehoovie 04-28-2024 06:05 PM

Re: Generator and Fan
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndnchf (Post 2307546)
I don't know, I'm not an engineer :D

There were a lot of different pulleys available over the years. A mid - late 1930s car with big V8 typically used a pulley .408" to .438 diameter. The V8 60 used a 3.68" diameter pulley in '37. In '38-'39 it could be either 3.71" or 3.40" diameter pulley. In 1940, the 01A-1000-B V8 60 generator used either a 3.12" or 3.18" diameter pulley.

On the left is a 1937 V8 60 pulley, 3.68" diameter. PN BB-10130-B. On the right is a big V8 pulley 4.38" diameter. PN 68-10130-C.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1714344005

Kube 04-28-2024 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ndnchf (Post 2307555)
It does seem odd, but I'm reading this out of the Ford geen book. Just reporting what I read.

I kinda thought that's where you were getting your information.

Terry,OH 04-29-2024 06:11 AM

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The BB- pulley is smaller because big trucks usually do not operate at high RPM the smaller pulley will increase generator output at lower RPM keeping the battery charged.

Ol' Ron 04-29-2024 10:11 AM

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Never use a generator or mechanical fam. Always use an Alternator and electric fan Last forever, works great.
Gramps

Tim Ayers 04-29-2024 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron (Post 2307693)
Never use a generator or mechanical fam. Always use an Alternator and electric fan Last forever, works great.
Gramps

I guess and I get it, but they seem to look out of place in my opinion.

qmdv 04-29-2024 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron (Post 2307693)
Never use a generator or mechanical fam. Always use an Alternator and electric fan Last forever, works great.
Gramps

Who makes a decent looking electric fan for a 32 roadster

Ol' Ron 04-29-2024 11:03 PM

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Generally speaking, I wasn't talking a hotrods, where esthetics are more important.
Gramps

Terry,OH 04-30-2024 06:47 AM

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Many generators found recently are an amalgam of pieces from various years so it can become impossible to identify from appearance especially covered in dirt. The 33 does not have vent holes in the front mounting bracket and the 36 armature does not have a 5/16" threaded attachment for the pulley


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