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BNewman 12-24-2015 01:29 PM

Brumfield
 

I have a head on my '31 I am told is a Brumfield.
It has a small B just forward of the distributor and viewed correctly from the manifold side of the engine.
Does anyone know what compression ratio it might be?
Thanks

JohnLaVoy 12-24-2015 02:36 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Brumfields were 5.9, but they usually had a BF marking. There were early heads with a B only on them.

Houdini 12-24-2015 08:29 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Thanks for starting this thread.
The previous owner told me he had installed a Brumfield head. I was also wondering what the compression ratio was. I thought I had read that there were different ones, starting at 5.5, then 5.9 etc.

I went out and looked at my head and on the top of the casting there is a marking with B - R, with the dash in-between the two letters.

I thought these were just heads that were machined down, but it seems like they were cast this way, based on the marking on the head being raised letters, versus stamped.

So were there different compression head ratings or just 5.9 for all the Brumfields, or were the different ratings offered by other manufacturers?

Benson 12-24-2015 08:42 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

B-F

Brumfield-Finney

Just mention his partner Finney to Larry and he has been known to get all "wound up". :D

5.2 (Bill Kenz told me 50 years ago that this was the compression on the "head with the large B" aka Police head, which I am still running on the Coupe.)

5.9

6.5

7.1

And almost any custom CR within reason ...

Houdini 12-24-2015 09:52 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

I'll have to take a closer look to see if it what I thought was an R is an F.

1931 flamingo 12-25-2015 10:04 AM

Re: Brumfield
 

Larry posts regularly on the AHOOGA message board. FWIW
Paul in CT

Benson 12-25-2015 11:36 AM

Re: Brumfield
 

Larry posted recently on Ahooga, a procedure of how to measure the head and then he could tell the compression ...

5window 12-25-2015 08:46 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 1211574)
B-F

Brumfield-Finney

Just mention his partner Finney to Larry and he has been known to get all "wound up". :D

5.2

5.9

6.5

7.1

And almost any custom CR within reason ...

I don't know the man, but from previous postings here on the FB before he left, or perhaps, was asked to leave, it didn't take much to get him "wound up". Hope it's happier over on Ahooha.

Mike V. Florida 12-26-2015 12:19 AM

Re: Brumfield
 

He is talking about producing the heads again.

CarlG 12-26-2015 12:28 AM

Re: Brumfield
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida (Post 1212021)
He is talking about producing the heads again.

That's what he said 5 years ago when I inquired.

Giles 12-26-2015 04:58 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Hi Bnewman - If what you are describing is a raised capital B cast into the head just north of the distributor, and nothing else, then what you have is not a Brumfield but a so-called "police" head. These were an in-period Ford option and raised the CR to, if I remember rightly, 5.6. I've used one for 15 years and it just makes my A a little livelier.

kenparker 12-27-2015 09:50 AM

Re: Brumfield
 

1 Attachment(s)
here is the B-F on a Brumfield head. This head was bought in mid '90's. Currently on my 1928 pickup.

Joop 12-27-2015 10:04 AM

Re: Brumfield
 

1 Attachment(s)
Police Head

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FrankWest 12-27-2015 12:25 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Roughly speaking how much additional HP can you get out of a 6:1 head. From a standard model A Head? Can this increased compression damage the engine?

Tom Wesenberg 12-27-2015 01:19 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Some years ago there were dyno tests done and posted on Fordbarn. The 5.5 head added about 10 H.P. and was the best bang for the buck to increase horsepower. There wasn't too much gain using the 6.0 over the 5.5 head, as I recall.

You also need a good cam, and not one with worn lobes and tappets.

FrankWest 12-27-2015 01:34 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1212778)
Some years ago there were dyno tests done and posted on Fordbarn. The 5.5 head added about 10 H.P. and was the best bang for the buck to increase horsepower. There wasn't too much gain using the 6.0 over the 5.5 head, as I recall.

You also need a good cam, and not one with worn lobes and tappets.

Thanks

Does anyone know how The compression of a model B head compares with a Model A head. Is a model A 4.5:1?

Tom Wesenberg 12-27-2015 01:47 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Model A head is 4.2 and the B head I think is 5.2, but I hope someone correct me if I'm wrong on the B head.

Bob C 12-27-2015 02:42 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

According to Vince's site the A head is 4.22 the police head is 5.2 and the
B head is 4.6.

Bob

Tom Wesenberg 12-27-2015 06:18 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C (Post 1212810)
According to Vince's site the A head is 4.22 the police head is 5.2 and the
B head is 4.6.

Bob

Yes, the "B" head is the police head for the Model A, and the Model B Ford has a large "C" on the head, and as you posted is 4.6 ratio.

Houdini 12-27-2015 07:54 PM

Re: Brumfield
 

I took a second look at mine and what I thought was a B-R is in fact a
B-F. It must be the glasses. (actually, it was more likely the time from reading the letters and walking back into the house to type my earlier post that changed it from an F to a R). Should have done like I do when we go to bed at night and check 4 or 5 times to make sure the house doors are locked. Now going into a room and forgetting why you did is another problem.

I believe this was also purchased in the mid 90s, around 1997, so should I assume its a 5.9. Just wondering.


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