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ivoryjohn 03-18-2013 01:42 PM

Need a Mascot Cast
 

I used to do jewelry work in college and art later. I've Now done a mascot of my springer in wax would like my noble dog immortalized on my model A radiator cap.

Does anyone know a Barn member or firm that will do one off castings or a small number in the pewter like substance of which the Ouails made. I have checked net and haven't been successful.

Big John 03-18-2013 02:29 PM

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try; americanarrowcorp.com Maybe they can help...

lance leblanc 03-18-2013 02:53 PM

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I will be following this thread.
I have often wanted to do the same thing but my priorities are that I should get my car back on the road again before I start such a project.
Never the less try these guys, not to far from you in St. Francisville LA

http://www.howellfoundry.com/

peters180a/170b 03-18-2013 02:53 PM

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Not in pewter but in Stainless steel... Every year at HERSHEY there is a small company that does such work. Door handles, mascots , radiator caps ..A friend of mine had a rare right side tail light bracket for this 1933 Buick done. Someone might know the company or has A vendors list for Hershey.They did do a Quail but it came out a little smaller.

Hicktick 03-18-2013 03:02 PM

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I recall reading threads about casting some parts that several guys were doing , but after some thought I think it was on the HAMB .

You might ask over there if anyone could cast you some .

FL&WVMIKE 03-18-2013 03:22 PM

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You might think of having it done on a 3-D Printer. It will turn out in a plastic material. You could then paint it to match your dog.
They details are very intricate. A copy of a monkey wrench, actually works.
You might GOOGLE to find someone, who does it commercially.
MIKE :)

Hicktick 03-18-2013 03:31 PM

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I went to the HAMB to look and I searched ,,,,,casting sand ,,,and I found lots of threads on making small parts and ornaments.

Try it

Vic in E-TN 03-18-2013 03:32 PM

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There is usually a company with a table at Chickasha. I do not remember their name but recall that they are from Washington. I can pick up a card this week and let you know.
Vic

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-18-2013 04:36 PM

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Still lookin' for a pewter/chrome RAT TERRIER! Bill W.

CarlG 03-18-2013 05:18 PM

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Buster T would be so proud sitting on your radiator cap!

1931 flamingo 03-18-2013 05:50 PM

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You might try O'Brien Truckers, they adv in Street Rodder mag.
Paul in CT

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-18-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 613504)
Buster T would be so proud sitting on your radiator cap!

He:cool: deserves it, Carl, he "saved" my life!! Bill W.

Phred 03-18-2013 06:25 PM

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How about this?
the rare dachshund mascot

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-18-2013 09:28 PM

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How about this?
the rare dachshund mascot

Thanks, Phred, but the ears ain't just right! LOL Bill W.

FL&WVMIKE 03-18-2013 09:35 PM

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Phred ...............
I like your car. Sure would like to see it up close.
MIKE :)

MikeK 03-18-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ivoryjohn (Post 613376)
I used to do jewelry work in college and art later. I've Now done a mascot of my springer in wax would like my noble dog immortalized on my model A radiator cap.

Does anyone know a Barn member or firm that will do one off castings or a small number in the pewter like substance of which the Ouails made. I have checked net and haven't been successful.

I take it you are somewhat familiar with the process of lost wax casting. I made lost wax and investment castings for many years. If I were you I certainly would not want to commit my original sculpted wax to an unknown founder. As you know, one chance and it is gone ('lost'). I would seriously consider making a polymer mold from the original and injection molding multiple waxes first, using a suitable casting (not carving) wax. Multiples could easily be tree'd.

Original quails were not pewter. They were low air-pressure cast in a Zinc alloy using metal molds, similar to the process used for cast aluminum pistons. Some of the Zinc alloys ('pot metal') can also be cast in reusable high-temp silicone rubber molds, but they are very difficult to work in gypsum based lost wax molds for reasons I won't elaborate on.

For material I certainly would also avoid stainless for several reasons- Highest shrinkage rate, 1/4 to 5/16" per foot, expensive as it requires a shop with induction melting equip, and not as easily worked post-cast as copper based alloys. If you want a direct-to-white alloy that can be mass-media finished and polished, I'd go with a white brass like CA#997 (a.k.a. White Thombasil) or CA#9975 (Higher Manganese) or a German (20% Nickel) silver alloy like CA#976, sometimes referred to as 'dairy bronze'. If you later decide you want an overplate like Nickel, Gold, or Chrome it is easy on these alloys. If you know you are going to plate, just use an 80-20 red tin bronze. Plating stainless steel is a problem, as it requires passivating to remove the bonded surface oxygen.

As for a source to do the work, You really need to search 'art foundries' rather than industrial. Here's one:
LINK

ivoryjohn 03-19-2013 11:44 AM

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I used to do jewelry work in college and art later. I've Now done a mascot of my springer in wax would like my noble dog immortalized on my model A radiator cap.

Does anyone know a Barn member or firm that will do one off castings or a small number in the pewter like substance of which the Ouails made. I have checked net and haven't been successful.

Here is one picture of the wax so far. The specks are packing foam that are attracted to the wax for some reason

Looks bigger than it is

gweilbaker 03-19-2013 11:57 AM

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There was a guy in AZ that use to frequent the board that cast a bunch of stuff and sold as jewelry like zenith carb and such. He made a chicken COUPE. Does anybody remember? If I recall he was restoring a crate A maybe.

ivoryjohn 03-19-2013 01:49 PM

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There was a guy in AZ that use to frequent the board that cast a bunch of stuff and sold as jewelry like zenith carb and such. He made a chicken COUPE. Does anybody remember? If I recall he was restoring a crate A maybe.

Clyde Ross Morgan does some terrific work and has a web site easy to find by name. Model A sculptures that look like die cast in bronze

Ron Lowe 03-20-2013 07:52 AM

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Hey Bill, Glad to finally see a photo of your friend, Buster T


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