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Anteek29 05-10-2024 09:53 AM

'41 PU Rear Window
 

My recently acquired '41 truck has a slide-opening rear window. I don't believe these were a factory option when new...or were they?

ActionYobbo 05-10-2024 11:31 AM

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A picture is worth a thousand guesses

Seth Swoboda 05-10-2024 11:48 AM

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Ford never installed a sliding rear window in a '41 pickup.

alanwoodieman 05-10-2024 03:02 PM

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BS Ford did have a sliding rear window in a 41 truck, more prevalent in canada than in us but they were offered. have on in my 41

alanwoodieman 05-10-2024 03:04 PM

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try again

alanwoodieman 05-10-2024 03:05 PM

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trying to up load a picture of original sales brochure and it will not load

petehoovie 05-10-2024 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alanwoodieman (Post 2310381)
BS Ford did have a sliding rear window in a 41 truck, more prevalent in canada than in us but they were offered. have on in my 41

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1715371361

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1715371361

TJ 05-10-2024 04:44 PM

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Page 43 of the V-8 Club's '40-'41 pickup book has the full details on the sliding rear window. There were two types and the windows carried through the '47 year.

Seth Swoboda 05-10-2024 05:00 PM

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What's the glass bug look like on the sliding glass window?

Kube 05-10-2024 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alanwoodieman (Post 2310381)
BS Ford did have a sliding rear window in a 41 truck, more prevalent in canada than in us but they were offered. have on in my 41

One thing they didn't have were those stainless screws and cup washers through the carboard panels.

rawlir 05-10-2024 10:05 PM

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FOAmerica 46 & 47 trucks had a factory option, so did FOC, Mercury was stock

38 coupe 05-11-2024 07:15 AM

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The Canadian 38 Ford Truck brochure shows a sliding rear window in the accessories section: https://oldcarbrochures.org/Canada/F...Cdn-28-29.html

You can also see two pictures with the sliding rear window shown in the 46 Mercury brochure: https://oldcarbrochures.org/Canada/F...Trucks-04.html


What I don't understand is why our neighbors in the frozen north needed more ventilation than the folks baking in the southern heat!

Model51 05-11-2024 01:52 PM

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I don't have the specifics for the 1941 back glass bugs but I can tell you that for 1935-1936 trucks, the Ford oval was 1" wide and 0.56" tall. The oval on the doors and windshield glass is 0.69" c 0.44". Not sure why the rear glass received a larger logo but I've confirmed this with Ford Engineering drawings and several original trucks. Attached is a drawing showing the locations on the glass and the dimensions.
The sliding rear window used two identical glass pieces with the logo installed as shown in the illustration. This results in the logo reading properly on the right hand glass when viewed from the back of the truck and reads correctly from inside the truck on the left hand side (at least that's the way it was supposed to be done during production).
All this info is from the mid-1930's but probably didn't change before WW2..

petehoovie 05-11-2024 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Model51 (Post 2310581)
I don't have the specifics for the 1941 back glass bugs but I can tell you that for 1935-1936 trucks, the Ford oval was 1" wide and 0.56" tall. The oval on the doors and windshield glass is 0.69" c 0.44". Not sure why the rear glass received a larger logo but I've confirmed this with Ford Engineering drawings and several original trucks. Attached is a drawing showing the locations on the glass and the dimensions.
The sliding rear window used two identical glass pieces with the logo installed as shown in the illustration. This results in the logo reading properly on the right hand glass when viewed from the back of the truck and reads correctly from inside the truck on the left hand side (at least that's the way it was supposed to be done during production).
All this info is from the mid-1930's but probably didn't change before WW2..

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1715453516

kirkf 05-13-2024 03:48 PM

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As I understand it, the sliding rear window was an option, but not very common.
The interior light on the other hand wasn't an option on the 41 to the best of my knowledge.
Bob Drake has a sliding rear window kit.

https://bobdrake.com/products/1940-4...ear-window-kit

Kirk

rawlir 05-13-2024 08:41 PM

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Interior light was an option in 46 & 47.
The rear window conversion is more complicated than i thought, i have a B Drake sliding rear window, may not install it as it would require removing some window metal/posts, etc. If i cut those out & then window installation becomes a problem, there may be no turning back, I am disappointed in myself to learn it is not that easy......

kirkf 05-14-2024 06:21 PM

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Agreed on the Bob Drake window installation. I was thinking of doing it until I saw it required modifying the cab.

Kirk

rawlir 05-14-2024 09:39 PM

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We are on the same page, optional sliding window would be great BUT modifications like that could go South quickly. I am going to leave that one out.....
Thanks.
Rick

alanwoodieman 05-15-2024 11:15 AM

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wait till you are driving down the road in HOT july in the south you will appreciate the sliding rear window

rawlir 05-15-2024 11:30 AM

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Alan,
I cant argue that BUT cutting metal around that window frame is dicey....Matching new parts to old parts is a crap shoot!!

Model51 05-15-2024 12:17 PM

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Is someone willing to show a few pictures of the metal that would need to be cut or trimmed? I'm only familiar with the 1935-39 rear window opening and it would be interesting to see the difference.

rawlir 05-15-2024 08:13 PM

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Sorry, I can't, I have already installed my non sliding window & moved on....as i recall when the opening was ready there was a vertical brace on both sides of the window that would have needed to be cut out so the sliders could then move out of the opening. I don't remember if it was just those 2 pieces or not, as i said if i would have cut those out, then continued with Bob Drake installation instructions & found something else as a problem I might have faced reinstalling those 2 pieces, was not willing to got here, I am trying to install as many Period Correct options of 1947, was disappointed to not get this one done.....

Model51 05-15-2024 08:29 PM

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No problem. I was just curious. On my sliding rear window the glass pains both slide inward, not outward. All that was needed was a clear opening, the same size and shape as the one-piece unit.

alanwoodieman 05-15-2024 10:08 PM

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drill out a couple of spot welds--will look to see if I have the ones that came out of another cab we put window in

Ron_r1959 05-12-2025 09:00 AM

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I bought one for my 41, my question is what does the outside of the window look like, the kit from Drake comes with a nice trim strip for the inside but i don't see anything for the outside. Did they have trouble with air or rain leaking in? I assumed it would use the rubber molding but that isn't the case. Does the window lay against the cab window seam? what keeps rain from getting in? I would love to see a closeup picture of a Drake window installed if anyone has one? Thanks Ron

Model51 05-12-2025 07:33 PM

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The rear window glass should have setting tape applied to the edge. The tape should be wide enough to go up the glass about 1/4" on each side. The tape provides the rain seal on the cab sheet metal. Ford used this technique on windshields before the advent of rubber gaskets. Attached is an image of a windshield cross section just to show how the tape wraps around the glass. The same principle applies to the rear window glass.

Ken Patty 08-01-2025 01:32 AM

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The cross section doesn't look like what I got from Drake to work with. But in any case the outside of the window is going to look unfinished. I don't see any way the Bob Drake kit doesn't allow for leaking inside the cab. Pretty disappointing. Am I missing something?

petehoovie 08-01-2025 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Model51 (Post 2388791)
The rear window glass should have setting tape applied to the edge. The tape should be wide enough to go up the glass about 1/4" on each side. The tape provides the rain seal on the cab sheet metal. Ford used this technique on windshields before the advent of rubber gaskets. Attached is an image of a windshield cross section just to show how the tape wraps around the glass. The same principle applies to the rear window glass.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1747096359


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