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Lawson Cox 07-06-2021 02:36 PM

KR Wilson spring spreader
 

Looking for a KR Wilson, or equivalent, spring spreader. Does anyone have one for sale? Send pictures to Lawson Cox, direct email, [email protected].

19Fordy 07-06-2021 02:46 PM

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Any chance of posting a photo of what that tool looks like?
Would be neat to see.

Don Rogers 07-06-2021 04:21 PM

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Here it is!!

mercman from oz 07-06-2021 05:28 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625606504
KR Wilson Spring Spreader.

mercman from oz 07-06-2021 05:36 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625610728

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625610733

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625610738
Here is an alternative Spring Spreader, the Litchfield Spring Spreader - Made in Australia.
Notice the Instructions inside the Lid that lists what Combinations are needed for what vehicle, including the small British Ford Prefect and Anglia.

mercman from oz 07-06-2021 05:47 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625611491

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625611496
Litchfield Spring Spreader - Made in Australia.

mercman from oz 07-06-2021 06:04 PM

Re: KR Wilson spring spreader
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625612561
Another type of early Ford Spring Spreader.

19Fordy 07-06-2021 06:23 PM

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Wow, Thanks for posting all those photos. I can see why it's such a desirable tool.

If you ever locate a really big turnbuckle you can make one like this.

doghair3 07-06-2021 08:36 PM

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If your in a bind you could get this one here.

https://www.ebay.com/str/macsfabrica...pring+Spreader

Lawson Cox 07-06-2021 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2033550)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625610728

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625610733

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1625610738
Here is an alternative Spring Spreader, the Litchfield Spring Spreader - Made in Australia.
Notice the Instructions inside the Lid that lists what Combinations are needed for what vehicle, including the small British Ford Prefect and Anglia.

This is the spring spreader I actually had in mind, and have used one like it several times. I like it very much. Does anyone have a Litchfield spring spreader they would part with?

Thanks

deuce lover 07-06-2021 11:55 PM

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I have a old Snap On that I found in a closed out shop.I think its from the 30's.The adapter pipes on one end were lost in shipment so made those up

jimTN 07-07-2021 05:47 AM

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I use a porta power that has the correct ends in the kit. I think Northern Hyd and Harbor Freight carry those kits. Put the curved ends on pipes with the hyd jack in the middle and pump away.

russcc 07-07-2021 06:12 AM

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The best one I have used is the early Snap On. Works smooth as glass, and strong as a bull. If I were to to compare the Snap On to the KR Wilson, the Snap On is simple and a far better design and execution.

37 Coupe 07-07-2021 07:25 AM

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I have been looking for one for quite awhile. I ran parts wanted ads both on Fordbarn and Early V8 Club classified to no avail other than the guy from England that will part his car out to get me one.

Terry,OH 07-07-2021 09:43 AM

Re: KR Wilson spring spreader
 

The K R Wilson spreader as shown in post #4 above will only do the rear spring due to it's over all length. K R W had a associated tool that used in conjunction with their spreader would do the front spring.

JSeery 07-07-2021 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 37 Coupe (Post 2033705)
... other than the guy from England that will part his car out to get me one.

That would be interesting!

Robz51 07-07-2021 10:02 AM

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Didn't Mart make one of these?

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Krylon32 07-07-2021 10:13 AM

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I've got a home made rear spring spreader that my great uncles used in their Ford dealership in the 30's and 40's. It a length of 1 inch ready bolt that slips into some heavy wall tubing with a heavy flat washer welded on 1 end of the tube and the other end smashed flat to a point to wedge in the spring. The ready bolt has a big square nut for adjustment that tightens against the washer with the end of the ready rod also ground flat to fit into the spring. Easy to make of you had access to the materials. I've used it dozens of times over the years in my shop. 30's technology.

Yoyodyne 07-07-2021 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimTN (Post 2033686)
I use a porta power that has the correct ends in the kit. I think Northern Hyd and Harbor Freight carry those kits. Put the curved ends on pipes with the hyd jack in the middle and pump away.

I was going to try that myself. Does the HF portapower have plenty of travel for the job?

HemiDeuce 07-07-2021 11:43 AM

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[ATTACH]Attachment 467610[/ATTACH

I built this one to clear the Quick Change.

JWL 07-07-2021 12:54 PM

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I made mine from a top link of a tractor 3-point hitch. Cheap, works great, and easy adapt.

glennpm 07-07-2021 01:45 PM

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I used a Harbor Freight "Porta-Power" on the 40 rear spring in my 32.

Lawson Cox 07-07-2021 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by glennpm (Post 2033837)
I used a Harbor Freight "Porta-Power" on the 40 rear spring in my 32.

I owned one with a friend who died. His daughter sold it, not knowing our arrangement. Too expensive to buy another to use just one time. So goes life.

Yoyodyne 07-07-2021 07:54 PM

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Just FWIW a local rental shop rents a 10 ton portapower for $19 for half a day.

Lawson Cox 07-07-2021 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyodyne (Post 2033960)
Just FWIW a local rental shop rents a 10 ton portapower for $19 for half a day.

Not around here, at least not one I can locate. I have found a good spring spreader that I can borrow from a friend of a friend. Picking it up in the morning.

Thanks, everybody. I'll let y'all know how it goes.

v8fordman 07-07-2021 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry,OH (Post 2033756)
The K R Wilson spreader as shown in post #4 above will only do the rear spring due to it's over all length. K R W had a associated tool that used in conjunction with their spreader would do the front spring.

This piece you speak of is an attachment to the pictured spreader and a VERY rare piece. I have a KRW spreader and have borrowed that piece from a friend to do fronts. I even tried to get a machine shop to mill one for me, but it is complicated and therefore too expensive to do a one off. Always wondered if there were enough spreaders left to create enough interest to have some made?

Yoyodyne 07-07-2021 08:54 PM

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Do you have a photo of the attachment?

1931 flamingo 07-08-2021 08:04 AM

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Lawson.....................BE CAREFUL ! ! !
Paul in CT

v8fordman 07-08-2021 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyodyne (Post 2033985)
Do you have a photo of the attachment?

I will have to make a picture of it, but it is a unique piece.

Lawson Cox 07-08-2021 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo (Post 2034099)
Lawson.....................BE CAREFUL ! ! !
Paul in CT


ALWAYS. Too overly cautious at times methinks.

Query: At what point do you stop "spreading" the spring? If you spread it far enough to move the shackle link, does not that remove the pressure on the link? Does spreading the spring farther somehow reduce the pressure on the link, making it easier to remove? Inquiring minds want to know.

bbrocksr 07-08-2021 10:16 PM

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Yes, if you spread it far enough to change the angle of the shackle the pressure is reduced. Spreading it farther won,t help much.
Bill

Yoyodyne 07-09-2021 09:10 AM

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At the risk of being Mr Obvious, is this to be done in a vehicle or out of the vehicle? If the spring is in a car/truck, you can support the ends of the spring with blocks and/or jacks to take the weight off the shackles and remove them that way. And yes, just slight movement indicates the pressure is off.


This can be safer than a spring spreader, as long as the car is supported safely.

19Fordy 07-09-2021 10:12 AM

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Yoyodyne: Seems pretty risky to me.

Yoyodyne 07-09-2021 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 2034406)
Yoyodyne: Seems pretty risky to me.

It can be, it's best to have help. I've done it plenty on As and Ts by myself, with just wood blocks between the axle and spring, V8s need more outside support.

Lawson Cox 07-09-2021 03:17 PM

Re: KR Wilson spring spreader
 

Thanks, bbrocksr, Yoyodyne, and 19Fordy for the comments. I was able to borrow a Litchfield spreader, but unfortunately, it was not a complete spreader as it was missing the shorter piece and therefore about 1/8" too long, and wouldn't work for me. I'm gonna just go ahead and spring for (no pun intended) for a new Porta Power from Harbour Freight and let my heirs figure out what to do with it. LOL

Y'all have really been a big help with this, and I really appreciate your putting up with me again. Thanks.

Until the next problem arises, I'll still be lurking hereabouts.

Lawson

40cpe 07-09-2021 03:30 PM

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A few years ago I bought a 4-ton ram from Harbor freight. I got it on sale for $100. I have used it several times on the springs on my '38. When Lawson started this thread I was going to recommend this too, but I looked on line and only saw the 10-ton version for considerably more.

v8fordman 07-09-2021 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyodyne (Post 2033985)
Do you have a photo of the attachment?

Here are a couple of pictures of the attachment that allows you to remove (or install) the front spring using a KRW spring spreader. Notice how it attaches which causes the overall length of the piece reaching the spring to become reduced. This works very well as most KRW tools do. As mentioned earlier, this is a VERY rare attachment for the KRW spring spreader. I've only seen two in my life.

glennpm 07-09-2021 05:11 PM

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Hi Lawson,


If you are only 1/8" too long, you could use your floor jack under the spring end, jack it a little and slip the spreader in.


Not that with the Harbor Freight unit, it comes with only one "chisel" end. I made another from pipe as you can see in my post #22.


Glenn

Yoyodyne 07-09-2021 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by v8fordman (Post 2034516)
Here are a couple of pictures of the attachment that allows you to remove (or install) the front spring using a KRW spring spreader. Notice how it attaches which causes the overall length of the piece reaching the spring to become reduced. This works very well as most KRW tools do. As mentioned earlier, this is a VERY rare attachment for the KRW spring spreader. I've only seen two in my life.

I think I understand. Yes, it would be tough to fabricate to replace that casting, without spending huge time on it. Thanks for the photos.

Kube 07-09-2021 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyodyne (Post 2034386)
At the risk of being Mr Obvious, is this to be done in a vehicle or out of the vehicle? If the spring is in a car/truck, you can support the ends of the spring with blocks and/or jacks to take the weight off the shackles and remove them that way. And yes, just slight movement indicates the pressure is off.


This can be safer than a spring spreader, as long as the car is supported safely.

Yikes! I've done a few things and amazingly walked away unharmed. Read: young and dumb.
I would NEVER remove a spring the way you suggest.


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