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tribouboys 05-15-2019 09:37 AM

Radiator Recommendation
 

Looking to replace the radiator on my 1930 model a Ford and wondering which one I should buy. I do not have a show car just a good solid driver.
Brassworks at 695.00. Or the US made 530.00 option
Thanks for the opinion

30 Closed Cab PU 05-15-2019 09:59 AM

Re: Radiator Recommendation
 

If showing for fine point judging, Brassworks make theirs per Ford prints. Some have had Past issues with fit, necks being on wrong angle, and necks not being correct diameter, bracket mounting holes not lining up, (undersize for correct hoses). Read their website completely, follow all info on their site, measure carefully, etc. and give them a call. For best chances of everything being correct you may want to send your radiator to them in so they get things matched up correctly.


I prefer Bergs, drop in replacement, excellent cooling, high quality, Nice looking but not made exactly per Ford Prints. No known issues/complaints.


If your cooling system is in good shape, there are other vendors that will work. The key is to insure your Block/Head are clean of Rust/Scale/Oil-grease.


Brassworks is the only recommended 2 row tube core. Issues with all other 2 row tube cores with overheating. A good 3 or 4 row Core is recommended.

katy 05-15-2019 10:08 AM

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Quote:

I prefer Bergs, drop in replacement, excellent cooling, high quality, Nice looking but not made exactly per Ford Prints. No known issues/complaints.
I've used Berg's, no complaints.

jwilliams81 05-15-2019 02:12 PM

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I drove from Ohio to pick up my Berg's last year. I still love it.

F.M. 05-15-2019 04:06 PM

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If you want it as Factory, go with Bergs 100%.. But I would send him you original upper & lower tanks along with the side straps.. Just a Driver, Still Bergs..

Davew 05-15-2019 05:30 PM

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I have a Bergs. Great radiator..

Brian in Wheeling 05-16-2019 07:19 AM

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Bergs for me. Six years and still perfect.

Brian W.

whirnot 05-16-2019 09:32 AM

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I just had my local shop recore it with a three row core. No freight and a local person to deal with if something is wrong. $650.

30 Closed Cab PU 05-16-2019 11:34 AM

Re: Radiator Recommendation
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by whirnot (Post 1758048)
I just had my local shop recore it with a three row core. No freight and a local person to deal with if something is wrong. $650.



Agreed, a good alternative if you have a shop close that does quality work. I went with a Bergs, could not find a shop within a decent driving distance, paying for gas or shipping costs eats into into any savings you might make.

DHZIEMAN 05-16-2019 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tribouboys (Post 1757716)
Looking to replace the radiator on my 1930 model a Ford and wondering which one I should buy. I do not have a show car just a good solid driver.
Brassworks at 695.00. Or the US made 530.00 option
Thanks for the opinion

I bought one of the $530.00 radiators off ebay...
$530.00 Plus

$35.00 Standard Shipping

Seller is located in
Crystal Lake, Illinois, United States

Perfect fit for my 1930 Model A and a world of difference from the faulty one removed! That was 2 years ago and still going well.

CarlG 05-16-2019 01:56 PM

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Bergs

larrys40 05-16-2019 02:25 PM

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Bergs is not only a great cooling radiator but it fits perfectly. Gery is 2nd to none in my opinion. It might cost a little more but you will be more than pleased.
Larry Shepard

MVal 05-18-2019 01:04 AM

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I always prefer a radiator with 10 fins/inch and no less. You won't regret it.

rocket1 05-18-2019 05:38 AM

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I agree with (WHIRNOT) had my radiator recored approx.$500.00,cash no tax no shipping,any problem just a 10 min. ride.

katy 05-18-2019 09:05 AM

Re: Radiator Recommendation
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by whirnot (Post 1758048)
I just had my local shop recore it with a three row core. No freight and a local person to deal with if something is wrong. $650.

Quote:

I agree with (WHIRNOT) had my radiator recored approx.$500.00,cash no tax no shipping,any problem just a 10 min. ride.
That's all fine and good, IF you can find a shop to do it. Around here none of the shops do much in the way of radiator repair any more, all they want to do is sell you a new one and then R&R it.

Paul Bjarnason 05-20-2019 08:45 PM

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I bought a 3-row aluminum radiator from China for $350. They painted it black for me at no extra charge. I have not yet run the car, but it looks to be a perfect fit.

30 Closed Cab PU 05-21-2019 12:01 AM

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Not sure I am correct, seem to remember something about possibly needing to run a sacrificial anode/cathode(?) when using an aluminum radiator. Others can correct me, or do a search here on the Barn.

Mike V. Florida 05-21-2019 12:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katy (Post 1758638)
That's all fine and good, IF you can find a shop to do it. Around here none of the shops do much in the way of radiator repair any more, all they want to do is sell you a new one and then R&R it.


Did my own. got the core from Robert radiator in Miami and soldered in the tanks myself. I went to a radiator shop to have it tested and no problems.

old31 05-21-2019 07:46 AM

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Bergs for me, a great drop in the radiator that cools.

ddweave 05-21-2019 07:59 AM

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I put in a Bergs radiator about 3 years ago. No more leaks or over heating. Also, I rarely need to add any coolant.

4537wpr 02-08-2021 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Bjarnason (Post 1759658)
I bought a 3-row aluminum radiator from China for $350. They painted it black for me at no extra charge. I have not yet run the car, but it looks to be a perfect fit.

Hello, I was considering buying an aluminum radiator for my driver model a and I saw your post. I was wondering what you thought of it after having it for a while? how did you attach the original cap or at least make it look right? would you get one with the neck in the original position or off to the side? how did it end up looking in the car, did you paint it black? thanks

Herve B

ahirt 02-09-2021 12:49 AM

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I have a Bratton's heavy duty radiator. Bought about 3 years ago. Fit like a glove and almost runs too cold! Could not be happier!!

shew01 02-09-2021 05:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahirt (Post 1983398)
I have a Bratton's heavy duty radiator. Bought about 3 years ago. Fit like a glove and almost runs too cold! Could not be happier!!


Same here. For me, it was money well spent.


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Bob-A 02-09-2021 06:51 AM

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A few years ago the bottom tank on my "A's" radiator started leaking. Nobody around here could fix it. Car was not over heating just needed a flush and resolder. I ordered a $350 new radiator from Snyder's. It works and fits Okay, but the top inlet on the tank does not line up correctly with the
water neck on the head. You get what you pay for I guess.:o


Bob-A:D

nkaminar 02-09-2021 07:16 AM

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I just bought an original used radiator for my 1930 car from a friend. Cost was $50. He tested it for flow and leaks and overall condition. So far I am happy with it although the temperature here has been in the 30's. It was a perfect fit in all respects. Shipping across the US was about $100. My friend did a fantastic job packaging it and there was no damage due to shipping.


I should add that the repo radiator that came with the car, source unknown, did not fit and had some other issues.

Dick M 02-09-2021 03:13 PM

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Three years ago I bought a 4 row radiator from Bert's. I have since routinely driven my A in 100+ degree weather. My A never went over 180 degrees even when climbing a 7,500 elevation summit for over 20 miles in 95 degree weather. Such a relief not to overheat!!!

Gene F 02-09-2021 06:50 PM

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Over the years I have bought 2 of the top notch ones from Snyders, and very happy with both of them. That "little too cool" statement comes to mind with me too. It's like buying an air-conditioning unit for a streetrod. Buy one too big. If it's too cold, you can always crack the window. If it won't keep up yourscrewed. Please do yourself t a favor and buy the good one.

The Brassworks 06-19-2021 12:34 PM

Re: Radiator Recommendation
 

Sorry - Late to the party again. We should try to check these forums once in a while.

The 2 row core is used for the Model As because the Ford design is limited to 2 1/16" depth. Our 3 row would hit the fan due to the tube shape and layout which is designed to maximize coolant surface area and fin to tube contact.

Additionally, we may overcool a conventional Model A engine with a 3 or 4 row radiator.

All tubes shapes and tube layouts are not equal so we avoid using that terminology (1) Personally I despise being marketed to with empty words e.g. desert cooler, pictures of eskimos, the words "heavy duty" etc. and (2) selling people what they ask for is pointless if it causes a fan interference.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 30 Closed Cab PU (Post 1757730)
If showing for fine point judging, Brassworks make theirs per Ford prints. Some have had Past issues with fit, necks being on wrong angle, and necks not being correct diameter, bracket mounting holes not lining up, (undersize for correct hoses). Read their website completely, follow all info on their site, measure carefully, etc. and give them a call. For best chances of everything being correct you may want to send your radiator to them in so they get things matched up correctly.


I prefer Bergs, drop in replacement, excellent cooling, high quality, Nice looking but not made exactly per Ford Prints. No known issues/complaints.


If your cooling system is in good shape, there are other vendors that will work. The key is to insure your Block/Head are clean of Rust/Scale/Oil-grease.


Brassworks is the only recommended 2 row tube core. Issues with all other 2 row tube cores with overheating. A good 3 or 4 row Core is recommended.


vangorde 06-19-2021 01:05 PM

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I put in a Brassworks radiator in my 31 coupe and am very happy with its fit and function.

nkaminar 06-19-2021 01:13 PM

Re: Radiator Recommendation
 

Brassworks makes good radiators. I had one on my Model T and it never overheated.

For my Model A I bought a Bergs. The fit was good and the quality was good. It replaced the stock radiator that I bought for $50 mentioned in a previous post. The stock radiator boiled over at 70 mph on a 90 degree day. The Bergs radiator is not any thicker that the stock one so it does not interfere with the fan. I took it up a 5 mile long 8% grade on a 80 degree day with the pedal to the metal in high gear and the water at the goose neck was 180 degrees, even with a 160 degree thermostat (with 6 holes drilled in the flange).

Be careful when buying radiators from off brands as they may not fit. The radiator that came with the car, brand unknown, was too thick and hit the fan nut causing a leak. It also interfered with the hand crank bearing so the previous owner broke off the casting. The top tube did not match up with the goose neck.

old31 06-19-2021 03:06 PM

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Bergs for me.

It's been 3 years, and I don't care if it parades in 100-degree temps or constant highway at 60mph for long distances the car stays cool. The fit was great.


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