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DD931 12-31-2015 02:44 PM

Grit Blast Media Recommendation
 

My lovely wife bought me a nice big grit blast cabinet for Christmas. Having spent the last couple of days reading "...tab A into slot B..." I am now ready to give it a go. What blast medium should I use for everyday work? For example, my first task will be cleaning up a pair of rusty headlight buckets. All comments gratefully considered!! Happy New Year to all!!

corvette8n 12-31-2015 03:19 PM

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I used screened playground sand for a test, seemed to work ok.

Pete 12-31-2015 03:22 PM

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Aluminum oxide will cut fast. 60 grit is a good all around size.
Glass bead will probably be more economical in the long run.
It cuts slower but gives a finer finish and is less likely to cut through thin spots.

RalphM 12-31-2015 05:30 PM

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Glass is cleaner, the other stuff tends to make a brown dust, this makes it hard to see where you have cleaned.

ford38v8 12-31-2015 05:38 PM

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Two tips:
Keep the media bone bone BONE dry.
Always use soft media for anything with bearings 'cause sand gets everywhere and you never get it all cleaned out.

51 MERC-CT 12-31-2015 05:59 PM

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Most of the time I have used #80 silica sand from the local Masonry supply company.
Most of the stuff mentioned and to be mentioned will work well for general
use but to me it was the availability and the cost.
Another factor that will effect how good it works is what you are using for an an air supply.

CSArno 12-31-2015 07:57 PM

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i use aluminum oxide. its not overly dusty with the vacuum hooked to the cabinet.

Binx 12-31-2015 09:27 PM

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I like the cheap playground quartzite sand on small parts. It leaves a smooth finish but will dust-up your window.

Lonnie

Marvin/TN 12-31-2015 09:47 PM

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And make sure your air supply is dry. Make sure you air compressor is big enough and that will somewhat depend on what size the nozzle is. Air compressor that is too small meaning not enough CFM's will make the air hot and hot air will keep water moister in a vapor until it comes out the nozzle then it becomes water. You will need a good water separator. You also need a long air line so the air will have time to cool off before going through the water separator.

Alaska Jim 12-31-2015 10:43 PM

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I prefer the glass beads for the fine finish.

Binx 12-31-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin/TN (Post 1215644)
And make sure your air supply is dry. Make sure you air compressor is big enough and that will somewhat depend on what size the nozzle is. Air compressor that is too small meaning not enough CFM's will make the air hot and hot air will keep water moister in a vapor until it comes out the nozzle then it becomes water. You will need a good water separator. You also need a long air line so the air will have time to cool off before going through the water separator.

That is great advice!! I did some blasting in my driveway in subzero weather while in AK. thinking wouldn't be a problem but it kept clogging up. Thanks Marvin!!

Lonnie

luvmyclassics 12-31-2015 11:03 PM

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Aluminum oxide is more aggressive than glass beads in my opinion. I have used glass beads to remove rust from a number of parts. It typically leaves a nice smooth finish on the metal. The more you use the media the more it breaks down until it is more like a sand then glass beads. Mixing together with new glass beads will give you a good blend for removing rust on parts you want to be careful not too damage the finish by being too aggressive with the cutting power.

Vics Stuff 12-31-2015 11:54 PM

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Lonnie !I use ultra fine glass beads for aluminum and finish work , Ground glass works grear for heavy gauge steel , like rims and brackets that need painted. Aluminum oxide works great for sheet metal but remember to keep air pressure down when blasting sheet metal. Need to empty the cabinet from time to time and sift the media before putting it back in the cabinet.
Vic

Walt Dupont--Me. 01-01-2016 08:27 AM

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A little hint. I take that plastic that you buy what you want, comes in big roll in hard where stores, and cut it the size window and I tape on the inside of the glass, It keep the glass from getting so you cain't see through it, I replace the plastic every once in awhile, haven't replaced my glass in 15 years. Walt

51 MERC-CT 01-01-2016 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me. (Post 1215776)
A little hint. I take that plastic that you buy what you want, comes in big roll in hard where stores, and cut it the size window and I tape on the inside of the glass, It keep the glass from getting so you cain't see through it, I replace the plastic every once in awhile, haven't replaced my glass in 15 years. Walt

Ditto on the cover the safety glass (same as in car windshields)
Been doing it for over 20 years except that I have been using .010 thick Mylar that was left over trimmings from a local plastics supply house.

G.M. 01-01-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me. (Post 1215776)
A little hint. I take that plastic that you buy what you want, comes in big roll in hard where stores, and cut it the size window and I tape on the inside of the glass, It keep the glass from getting so you cain't see through it, I replace the plastic every once in awhile, haven't replaced my glass in 15 years. Walt

Walt, Skip uses small cast iron balls as a media to clean the water pumps.
These are available in different sizes and never turn to powder. He just
adds more ago but they are expensive to buy and expensive to run.
They have two large electric motors. The phone salesman suggested we try
the cast iron balls and he has used them ever since. G.M.

rotorwrench 01-01-2016 09:24 AM

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That sounds like shot peening material.

texas webb 01-01-2016 10:44 AM

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The play sand from Depot/Lowes and other hardware stores does not contain silica.Always wear your protection to save lungs.

DD931 01-01-2016 11:52 AM

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Walt - good advice!! And I have a nice big air compressor, so I don't expect CFM to be an issue. Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions!!

Pete 01-01-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me. (Post 1215776)
A little hint. I take that plastic that you buy what you want, comes in big roll in hard where stores, and cut it the size window and I tape on the inside of the glass, It keep the glass from getting so you cain't see through it, I replace the plastic every once in awhile, haven't replaced my glass in 15 years. Walt

Yup...Kind of like the tear offs we use for dirt racing.
I stack 4 or 5 and leave a small tab on the corner so I can tear one off while blasting if need be.

HCO41 01-01-2016 06:29 PM

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I am currently using "speed bead" from TP Tools in Canton, Ohio. Cleans faster than glass beads with same fine, primer ready finish. Hope you got a vacuum with your new unit. Below is a link to TP Tools abrasive section of their catalog. Click on "most popular" abrasives, then on selected medias to review their characteristics and cost. Shipping is a killer!
Try this: http://www.tptools.com/Abrasives-and-Accessories.html
Howard

outlaw 01-02-2016 12:07 AM

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At work we have standarized on medium glass beads. Over all it does a good general purpose clean, & leaves metal with a dull frost or sheen look. We buy ours from Grainger. Ballotini is the brand name. The grade is 70-140 & is a part # 2w580. If you are cleaning really rusty stuff you might wish to go with their coarse glass beads part # 2w765 wich is a grade 60-120. Either comes in a 53# 5gal pail. For really heavely rusty metal I would wire wheel the parts first to save the glass beads (they will turn to pumis over time) & keep the cabinet from "dusting up" with rust dust. Wipe down with thinner to clean the dust that will stick on the metal. Bill

flatmotor40 01-02-2016 06:05 AM

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I get my blasting stuff from Tractor Supply.Cheapest any where and it last longer than play sand

john in illinois 01-02-2016 07:25 AM

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Howard I have always used glass beads. I tried the TP speed beads and they work much faster with the same fine finish as regular glass beads. I use 1/2 a 50lb bag per fill. so a bag lasts 2 or 3 years.

I used to restore early Triumph motoryrcycles and I tried walnut shells for aluminum but never had much succes plus they bwere hard to clean out of cabinet. When I would clean spark plugs with beads a stray walnut shell would end up stuck in plug.

John

39portlander 01-02-2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by john in illinois (Post 1216483)
Howard I have always used glass beads. I tried the TP speed beads and they work much faster with the same fine finish as regular glass beads. I use 1/2 a 50lb bag per fill. so a bag lasts 2 or 3 years.

I used to restore early Triumph motoryrcycles and I tried walnut shells for aluminum but never had much succes plus they bwere hard to clean out of cabinet. When I would clean spark plugs with beads a stray walnut shell would end up stuck in plug.

John

My 960 patriot came with the scat magic, I have switched to the speed bead, similar results and a lot less dust. As for aluminum, I got the soda master attachment.

robert dick 01-02-2016 04:19 PM

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for very heavy blasting i use black beauty but for most of my work i use a product called potters beads, very fine and does a beautiful job on delicate parts.my primary pressure is 90 psi.


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