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Zeke...PA 12-21-2014 03:20 PM

Heaters?
 

How many cars have heaters, water, exhaust ? Zeke

42merc 12-21-2014 04:36 PM

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My '40 has a hot water heater.
I live in Michigan, can't really enjoy your ride in the spring or the fall without one.

4dFord/SC 12-21-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 42merc (Post 1002078)
My '40 has a hot water heater.

x2.

Bruce in southern OH 12-21-2014 05:20 PM

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39 Lincoln, exhaust, works great

Joe Immler 12-21-2014 05:52 PM

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'41 coupe with hot water heater. I live in Ohio and X2 what 42merc said

malpais 12-21-2014 05:52 PM

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I've had experience on seven late 30 flatheads. 5 had hot water heaters(two are Ford Script), one has an exhaust heater, one has a Southwind gasoline.

These were all originally in cold weather states: Ohio, Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming.

I've found it's hard to find fan parts for the Ford Script heaters, and hard to find heat exchangers for the exhaust heaters, if that's a factor for you.

Since they were mostly aftermarket or dealer installed, be hard to find numbers....

Gordon

1939 pickup truck 12-21-2014 06:02 PM

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The 39 Ford C91 will be getting a Tropic Air added for those fine late fall foliage tours.

Tim Brown 12-21-2014 06:28 PM

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Here is what goes into my cars. This is California. We dont need much more than a warm backside....

http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/index.html

PeterC 12-21-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke...PA (Post 1002024)
How many cars have heaters, water, exhaust ? Zeke

I have a restored 1940 Ford heater (hot water) in my 35 3 window - boy it gets toasty in there fast!:D

charles in east texas 12-21-2014 06:45 PM

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I have an exhaust hot air heater. Wife loves it.

RalphG 12-21-2014 06:57 PM

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Given my location it will come as no surprise that my 39 Deluxe had a heater installed. It is a B.F.Goodrich connected up to the cooling system by hoses. One to the lower right radiator hose and the other to the top of the right head. I removed it years ago for reasons I can't recall but still have it. The stick on glass, later plastic, "frost shields" were standard equipment on cars here in winter. The weak heaters needed a little help in our cold weather.

deuce_roadster 12-21-2014 06:58 PM

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3- 40s all have hot water heaters. (wagon, convert, V8 coupe)

Blu Dice 12-21-2014 07:05 PM

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My '52 has a very good stock heater, and since I drive my car every weekend it gets a real work out here.

41ford1 12-21-2014 08:50 PM

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The pickup has a good working Southwind heater. The stock unit in the '53 Courier provides plenty of heat. I have electric seat heaters in the hot rod for the cooler days.

47 flatbed 12-21-2014 10:11 PM

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Kept aftermarket heater in my 47. My wife's 41 will have original restored and installed. My 39 3/4 ton will too when that happens all hot water heaters

Fibber Mcgee 12-22-2014 01:54 AM

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My 41 still has original Ford water heater(even has 41 date on back of housing ) but my 49 has an early 50s Western Auto water heater.

Barry-ct 12-22-2014 07:25 AM

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My 50 F-1 has the factory fresh aire hot water heater installed.

Ol' Ron 12-22-2014 09:23 AM

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My truck will have a Vintage Air water heater/ defroster.

rick r 12-22-2014 09:34 AM

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Have a hot water heater/defroster in my 51 Meteor and a hot water heater in my 32 roadster hot rod. Both are old swap meet 6Volt units. Run a resister, both cars converted to 12v

Dick Webber 12-22-2014 10:22 AM

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39 Deluxe has a Ford hot water heater. Went to a lot of trouble and expense to buy and restore it but it works great.

49 F-1 has what I thought was a factory hot water heater but some say it is a Firestone item.

49 Mercury has factory fresh air heater.

I drive these cars year around if the streets free from salt and I really appreciate the heaters

Model A has a manifold heater which is much better than none, and works best on a hot day.

Merry Christmas to all!

keith oh 12-22-2014 10:40 AM

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My 35 has a manifold heater much like the Model A heater that uses the engine fan air blowing over a exhaust manifold heat exchanger directly through a hole in the firewall. I have not seen any others like it. It does take the edge off if its not to cold out. Has anybody else have one like it?

Shu47 12-22-2014 03:25 PM

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My 47 tonner has Ford hot water heater that looks just like the one in Dick Webber's picture. Only mine is not as pretty. Mine looks like it was added by the way the holes are cut thru the firewall.

Dave in WY 12-22-2014 05:33 PM

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I have a 40 heater that came with my 40. I am trying to restore it. Need a motor and trim clips to finish things off. I hope to install it this winter if I find the parts and get the time.
Merry Christmas!!
Dave

RalphG 12-22-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by keith oh (Post 1002452)
My 35 has a manifold heater much like the Model A heater that uses the engine fan air blowing over a exhaust manifold heat exchanger directly through a hole in the firewall. I have not seen any others like it. It does take the edge off if its not to cold out. Has anybody else have one like it?

My 38 parts car had that exhaust manifold type heater on it. I likely still have it somewhere but would have a hard time locating it as I removed the engine over 30 years ago.

Lawson Cox 12-22-2014 09:13 PM

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Southwind Jr. in my 35 pickup. All NOS guts. Still needs a little tweaking, but heats things up very well.

Henry/Kokomo 12-22-2014 09:21 PM

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Have the stock Ford hot water heater in my '46 Tudor. Had the core cleaned out and it works pretty well. The defroster is a little "iffy" but better than no defroster.

wingerdinger 12-22-2014 11:24 PM

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My `35 1-1/2 ton has a nice water heater, and appears to be factory or at least Ford. It is odd how it is plumbed, and has some plastic replacement tees and wrong clamps and such. I'd love to find out how it supposed to be plumbed.

Old Henry 12-23-2014 12:38 AM

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This is the heater shown in the 46-48 sales literature:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...Heater0001.jpg

This is the fresh air heater that became available at the end of '47 and is in my car:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...cal/Heater.jpg

And these are pictures of that heater in my car:

The inlet of the air duct that takes air from in front of the radiator:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_2437-s.jpg

That then goes along under the hood:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...al/Heater2.jpg

Meeting the fan on the firewall when the hood is closed. The cable going up over the duct controls the damper in the duct (bottom of pivot shaft seen near fan port) to control the air going through the duct.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...al/Heater3.jpg

Into the heater coil on the passenger side of the firewall.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...al/Heater1.jpg

To go out both sides of the bottom plus a slit along the bottom unless that damper is pulled up to divert it to the windshield.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...al/Heater4.jpg

Three dashboard controls. Left for defrost. Middle one direction two speed fan switch. Right controls the damper in the hood duct to control the outside air coming in.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...al/Heater5.jpg

Fibber Mcgee 12-23-2014 07:55 AM

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My 41 has a switch that has high and low in forward or reverse. Does anyone know what the purpose of this is as I don't see the advantage of reverse.

Blu Dice 12-23-2014 08:26 AM

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Hey Old Henry - how well does that fresh ai heater work - that is some set-up!!

Blu Dice 12-23-2014 08:30 AM

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My 1st car was a '41 Plymouth coupe (with a back seat)that had a hot water heater under the driver seat (disconnected) - I've never seen another one and always wonder how they functioned.

Zeke...PA 12-23-2014 04:31 PM

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Has anyone tried the approximate 7 X 7 X 7" hot water heater sold by Summit Racing ? looks like an easy mount and fit. Don't know about output listed at 12,000BTU. Zeke

sidevalve8ba 12-23-2014 04:49 PM

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This is a box-type heater I bought twenty-plus years ago from J. C. Whitney for my Model A but was never installed. It looks to be the same one you are describing. It did not come with heater hose or shut off valve. It is designed so that a defroster could be hooked up with a bit of duct hose and other items. The fan is two speed and it came with the switch. I used it in my '32 and it does a good job.

Oh yeah, I paid about $70 for it back then.

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps422dfc33.jpg

Graeme / New Zealand 12-23-2014 05:34 PM

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My 48 had a heater in it one stage ( square Ford thing with the flaps). I came with the parts for my car. It is still boxed away. I never bothered to install it as we have a temperate climate here.....anyway I have a "dirty great big heater" that radiates through the firewall and up through the toe board of my vehicle.

GB

Old Henry 12-24-2014 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fibber Mcgee (Post 1002999)
My 41 has a switch that has high and low in forward or reverse. Does anyone know what the purpose of this is as I don't see the advantage of reverse.

That switch was to control the stock recirculating heater I showed in Post # 28. If you read the description of that heater you'll see that the fan could blow forward through the coils and into the passenger compartment for more heat or backward, drawing air through the coil and blowing it against the wall for less focused heat. Plus you had two speeds each direction.

Old Henry 12-24-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Dice (Post 1003003)
Hey Old Henry - how well does that fresh ai heater work - that is some set-up!!

I think the heater works great. I get way more heat than I usually need and plenty on even the coldest drives (drove it down to 7° here: http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93137). Plus, because it brings in fresh air the windows rarely fog up so better visibility all 'round and it pressurizes the inside of the car to keep drafts of cold air coming in any cracks or gaps. I like it. But, then, I've never had anything else.

Dave in WY 12-24-2014 01:26 AM

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The knob on the switch should say Indirect-slow & fast, Off, Direct-slow & fast. Direct heat blows air through the core and out the front of the heater. Indirect is reverse and Should be for Defrost, and as Old Henry says, for indirect heat, as it will suck air through the core and blows it out the back side of the heater against the firewall.
Dave

Fibber Mcgee 12-24-2014 08:30 AM

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Thanks ,Old Henry and Dave. Mine is all there and works but it seems kind of pointless but it's nice to know what it's supposed to do.

PeterC 12-24-2014 12:03 PM

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Further to my post - my Coupe had a dealer installed gas fired heater installed back in teh 30s' (that was scarey!) which came with a nice factory match dash mounted heater push/pull knob and cable that went to an interior door flap to open and close the air. When I converted to the 1940 hot water heater I used a modern water shut off valve as you can see in the picture and re-purposed the heater cable to operate the valve. Click on picture to enlarge:D


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Originally Posted by PeterC (Post 1002159)
I have a restored 1940 Ford heater (hot water) in my 35 3 window - boy it gets toasty in there fast!:D


FL&WVMIKE 12-24-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by keith oh (Post 1002452)
My 35 has a manifold heater much like the Model A heater that uses the engine fan air blowing over a exhaust manifold heat exchanger directly through a hole in the firewall. I have not seen any others like it. It does take the edge off if its not to cold out. Has anybody else have one like it?

keith oh ........................
It sounds like you might have a GENUINE FORD accessory heater. If it is like this one, you do. They are pretty scarce.
Also shown, is the original FORD adjustment device.
I believe the lower inlet tube, in the third photo, is the correct one.
MIKE :) (mikeburch)
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