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model 'a' 4 speed trans i have lost my info on who makes the 4 speed trans for the "A"s . it fits into stock location & 4th is overdrive . can some one please help me .. steve
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans i thought it was mitchell , but not in his catalouge ............. steve
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Steve; We use a 1985 Ford Tk 150 4 speed. A machine shop in Mich will convert it for you. e-mail for the shop. [email protected]
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Gary Bernard makes one here in Ft. Worth. We have about 25,000 on his without a problem. And i know a lot more people who have his with a lot more miles, and its still going strong. Email me for contact info.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans I think Jim Parker in Canada makes the kit.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Thanks for the plug Tom, and I am doing ONE, and its for me! Doing brakes for fellows up here keeps me busy enough! I need some free time too, trying to drive the wheels off my Roaster ya know!
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans There is another person who makes kits to do this install. His name is Ken Parker in Van, Texas and he posts on fordbarn. His contact information is: Phone - 903-963-1650 or e-mail ([email protected]). The kits run around $2700 complete. I have done this install myself without a kit and I wrote an outline of the procedure I used. I can send that to you if you are interested. Probably cost you slightly less than half the $2700 to do it yourself.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Thanks for the plug Al. Ken
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans thank you all . i found & contacted a person . so again ... thank you all !! .. steve
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Al, I would also love to see your 4 speed conversion outline. Thanks!
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Hi Al,
Could I have one as well please. Regards Chris Cape Town cfm65 at me.com |
Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans modelaonly.net building these for over 25 years.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Sounds like the first step in making a Model A into a street rod.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans The 4 speed is a completely different transmission from the 3 speed with overdrive.
Upgrading parts on a car does not make it a streetrod. It simply makes it more useable |
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And so we are clear, "upgrading" is perfectly acceptable on a 'Restored' vehicle if it is undetectable. A high-compression head can be undetectable, insert bearings inside the engine is considered undetectable, a hi-speed ring & pinion is considered undetectable. A F-150 transmission IS detectable ...even in Helen Keller's eyes!! :D |
Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Brent, the F150 is only detectable if you crawl under the car and look. And it is a much more concealed upgrade then the Mitchell overdrive unit. And 99.9% of the people who look at the car, won't know it's there!!!
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans What we need is a nice 4 speed overdrive that fits inside the stock tranny case.:)
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Tom, not enough room inside that small case.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Al, Thank you very much for sending the info. It looks like a fun job to tackle. Thanks again!
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Thanks for sharing.
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Would you please forward me your outline to [email protected] ??? I'd Very Much like to understand how to make the 4 speed conversion!!! Thank You! Blessings! Will & Wendy, N3YH & K3WMS |
Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans You are right Tom, I would love to see that for all three of my (A.s) 31 Coupe, 31 S/W, and 30 Sedan. Maybe someone will do that soon.
I sure enjoy everyones Comments Thanks Tom Bill |
Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Tom, you are right about the 4 speed in the original tranny case. I would be very interested in one for my 31 Coupe, 31 S/W and one for my 30 Sedan. I think whoever comes up with that, couldn’t keep up with the demand. Just my thoughts.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans I bought a model A fordor one time that had been "improved". Hydraulic brakes, overdrive, 12 volts, mallory distributor, weber carburetor, etc, etc. I converted it back to original. I wondered why the guy had not just bought a newer car, or maybe a Mustang. The factory original model A is still a good car just as it is. Some folks are not happy with that.
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans it would be nice if some machinist out there could take a present day 4 speed trans and convert it to fit a Model A as a drop in using the present torque tube/ bell housing mounts without any or only very limited modification, surely in the world of vehicles there is something small enough to fit and work with a 40-60HP engine, with limited machine work, say with a market price of $1000-1500.. One can dream.... I drove a conversion years ago with syncro. in all gears it was a nice experience. I feel this would be a nice upgrade and when combined with overdrive it would be a great value. Your mileage may vary.....
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I bought mine from www.modelaonly.net It was a complete bolt in kit, no alterations to the vehicle except for the wooden floorboard where the shift lever is moved aft 1-1/2 inches. |
Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans I got my trans from Tim Sheriden and really love it. I asked him for the wires that go on the backup light switch and he sent me the plug with about 6' of wire. I got some high power leds that were mounted in aluminum round 'bolts' and used them to hold the license plate on. Here is the information on Tim Sheridan:
Tim Sheridan repairs 9730 State Road Nunica, MI 49448 (616) 837-6477 With this setup, you have to cut off the center upper and lower bolt holes on the clam shell that covers the universal joint. This lets it clear the cross member and the brake cross shaft. I also had to put 1/8" spacers under the mounts for the brake cross shaft. You might also have to tweak the end of the brake connecting rod from the pedal to the cross shaft so that it still hits the brake switch. Right know I can't think of what he said the clutch was from. If you need them, I took some pictures as I was installing it. For the shifter, I used the stub from the F150 Tim supplied. I cut it down so only the straight portion was left and then ground it in half front to back. I then cut off the bottom of a new Model A shift lever and ground the opposite side off. I clamped the two pieces together and tacked them together. After tacking them together, they were installed in the trans and I tried shifting it. It took some grinding down the weld and retacking them until I was happy with the position. When satisfied, I welded the two together. Make sure it clears the seat and instrument panel before final welding. If you have any other questions, let me know and I will try to help you. Dick |
Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans could I have a copy of your procedure/ thanks [email protected]
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Re: model 'a' 4 speed trans Let me first off say that to each their own when it comes to cars but in my case I have had someone try to sell me an overhead conversion and higher rear end gears. I thought about it and decided what was the point my car is not a interstate cruiser,i have other cars for that,but the original transmission makes me have to relax when I drive I have to double clutch and wait for the car,which after a stressful day definitely takes the edge off. If I start to mess with heads and transmission I might as well get a street rod, and the stress relief is gone.
My transmission is 60 years old along with the clutch dis and still performs well sometimes it would be nice to have another gear but it defeats the purpose of the car. Just my opinion |
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