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lookin-backtexas 04-26-2013 07:34 AM

Win a freshly rebuilt Model A engine with insert bearings
 

The Lone Star Model A Ford Club of Georgetown, Texas is hosting the 50th Model A Ford Texas Tour (statewide convention) June 6 - 9 and is having a raffle to win a freshly rebuilt Model A engine built by Taylor Made Motors of New Braunfels, TX. The engine is valued at $5,000 and raffle tickets are just $5 each or 5 for $20!

Engine specs include:
Block cleaned and checked for cracks
One piece main bearings
One piece rod bearings
New tri-metal connecting rods
Counter balanced crankshaft
Pressurized center main
New aluminum timing gear
New crank gear
Rebuilt oil pump
Reground touring camshaft
Modern stainless steel valves (1.73 intake / 1.53 exhaust)
New exhaust manifold gaskets
New intake manifold gasket
One piece valve guide
Modern valve keepers
New valve springs
Motor balanced
Block tapped for modern main bolts
Porting on the valve ports
New oil pan bolts
New valve cover bolts
New front pulley
New head gasket
Grade eight head studs and nuts
Cut down (lightened) flywheel
New clutch disc
New pressure plate
New pilot bearing
Modern front seal
Motor completely assembled
Engine painted Ford engine green
Oil pan cleaned and painted black
Snyder 5.5:1 High Compression Head
Heater/exhaust manifold
Intake manifold painted to match engine
Test run to verify performance
Total value as built: $5,000

Carburetor, distributor, starter and water pump not included

The drawing will occur June 8, 2013 during the 50th Anniversary Texas Tour Awards Banquet held at the Marriott Hotel, Round Rock, TX.

Winner need not be present to win but must claim prize on or before July 1, 2013.

Raffle tickets available for $5 each or 5 for $20

Make checks payable to "50th Texas Tour" and mail to:
Lone Star Model A Ford Club
3404 Indian Mound Road
Georgetown, TX 78628

Be sure to include your email address so we can confirm receipt of your entry and your telephone number so we can notify you if you win!

luckyal 04-26-2013 08:47 AM

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I indeed wish you well but I wonder why you would not include the carburetor, distributor and waterpump ? Curious !
Al

Jordan 04-26-2013 08:49 AM

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Who built the engine? already bought my tickets

lookin-backtexas 04-26-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 639719)
Who built the engine? already bought my tickets

Jordan:
The first paragraph of the original listing states that the engine was rebuilt by Taylor Made Motors, New Braunfels, TX.

Good luck with the raffle and thanks for buying a ticket!
Fred

lookin-backtexas 04-26-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by luckyal (Post 639714)
I indeed wish you well but I wonder why you would not include the carburetor, distributor and waterpump ? Curious !
Al

Al: With a user name like "lucky al" you surely should buy a raffle ticket! ha

Can't really answer your question - our tour chairman made the arrangements with Taylor Made Motors to rebuild the engine so don't know why it doesn't come with the distributor, carb, water pump or starter.

Even without those items the retail value of the balanced inserted main bearing engine with a Snyder high compression head is $5,000 and is worth trying to win. The missing parts should be easily obtained if you are the lucky winner!

Thanks,
Fred

Gary WA 04-26-2013 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin-backtexas (Post 639679)
The Lone Star Model A Ford Club of Georgetown, Texas is hosting the 50th Model A Ford Texas Tour (statewide convention) June 6 - 9 and is having a raffle to win a freshly rebuilt Model A engine built by Taylor Made Motors of New Braunfels, TX. The engine is valued at $5,000 and raffle tickets are just $5 each or 5 for $20!

Engine specs include:
Block cleaned and checked for cracks
One piece main bearings
One piece rod bearings
New tri-metal connecting rods
Counter balanced crankshaft
Pressurized center main
New aluminum timing gear
New crank gear
Rebuilt oil pump
Reground touring camshaft
Modern stainless steel valves (1.73 intake / 1.53 exhaust)
New exhaust manifold gaskets
New intake manifold gasket
One piece valve guide
Modern valve keepers
New valve springs
Motor balanced
Block tapped for modern main bolts
Porting on the valve ports
New oil pan bolts
New valve cover bolts
New front pulley
New head gasket
Grade eight head studs and nuts
Cut down (lightened) flywheel
New clutch disc
New pressure plate
New pilot bearing
Modern front seal
Motor completely assembled
Engine painted Ford engine green
Oil pan cleaned and painted black
Snyder 5.5:1 High Compression Head
Heater/exhaust manifold
Intake manifold painted to match engine
Test run to verify performance
Total value as built: $5,000

Carburetor, distributor, starter and water pump not included

The drawing will occur June 8, 2013 during the 50th Anniversary Texas Tour Awards Banquet held at the Marriott Hotel, Round Rock, TX.

Winner need not be present to win but must claim prize on or before July 1, 2013.

Raffle tickets available for $5 each or 5 for $20

Make checks payable to "50th Model A Ford Texas Tour" and mail to:
Lone Star Model A Ford Club
3404 Indian Mound Road
Georgetown, TX 78628

How's shipping going to work winner responsible??:confused:

700rpm 04-26-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary WA (Post 639961)
How's shipping going to work winner responsible??:confused:

If you won a $5000 engine with a $5 ticket, you think you could come up with $800 to ship it to Washington? :p

Gary WA 04-26-2013 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 700rpm (Post 639974)
If you won a $5000 engine with a $5 ticket, you think you could come up with $800 to ship it to Washington? :p

possibly!!!:rolleyes:

BrianM 04-26-2013 06:12 PM

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Please excuse the ignorance, but does "one piece bearings" mean babbit?

Update: Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the title, but how are inserts one-piece?

lookin-backtexas 04-26-2013 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary WA (Post 639961)
How's shipping going to work winner responsible??:confused:

To answer your question, if you buy a ticket and win, the contest rules state "winner need not be present to win but must claim prize on or before July 1, 2013." That means it's your engine and on or before July 1 you have to pick it up or have it shipped to you.

I will personally be at the awards banquet that evening and if you are from out of state and need some time to arrange shipping or storage until you can drive here to pick it up, I will store it in my barn for a reasonable amount of time (couple of months if necessary).

Don't know the cost of shipping but if you are lucky enough to win a $5,000 engine, I would think the additional cost for shipping or gas to come pick it up would be worth it - you've always wanted to visit Texas anyway, right?

Fred

lookin-backtexas 04-26-2013 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianM (Post 639988)
Please excuse the ignorance, but does "one piece bearings" mean babbit?

Update: Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the title, but how are inserts one-piece?

Brian:
No, the engine has insert bearings instead of babbitt. I just got off the phone with the engine builder and what he meant by stating "one piece bearings" refers to the fact that most engine rebuilders who do inserted engines have historically used what he calls "old technology" meaning they use MG bearings that are not wide enough to fill the gap in the block and used two separate bearings on each half. He uses a single bearing on each half (obviously you can't have a one piece bearing that wraps around the crank). He pointed out another advantage in doing so in that the old technology resulted in a gap between the two bearings at the rear main; his single bearing fills the entire space resulting in no gap.

Hope this answered your question.

Thanks,
Fred

Gary WA 04-26-2013 10:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin-backtexas (Post 640071)
To answer your question, if you buy a ticket and win, the contest rules state "winner need not be present to win but must claim prize on or before July 1, 2013." That means it's your engine and on or before July 1 you have to pick it up or have it shipped to you.

I will personally be at the awards banquet that evening and if you are from out of state and need some time to arrange shipping or storage until you can drive here to pick it up, I will store it in my barn for a reasonable amount of time (couple of months if necessary).

Don't know the cost of shipping but if you are lucky enough to win a $5,000 engine, I would think the additional cost for shipping or gas to come pick it up would be worth it - you've always wanted to visit Texas anyway, right?

Fred

thank you!!!

CarlG 04-26-2013 11:50 PM

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Don't worry about it Gary, they are going to pull my ticket anyway. :D

bonesy 04-27-2013 01:22 AM

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Do you all take PayPal. I'd be in for five.

Thanks,

Scott

dr.j 04-27-2013 05:38 AM

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Open to your neighbours up north? I'd drive down for the tour and pick it up:)

montanafordman 04-27-2013 06:35 AM

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Well, since I need an engine, I might just have to buy a ticket!

QGolden 04-27-2013 06:42 AM

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I'll buy a couple of tickets. When I win it, I will have a great excuse for a Road Trip. :-)

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 06:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 640159)
Don't worry about it Gary, they are going to pull my ticket anyway. :D

Carl - now that would make a fun road trip . . . Alaska to Texas! Hope you plan to drive your Model A. A few years ago, a local guy drove his Model T from Austin, Texas to Alaska roundtrip - now that's a real road trip at 30 mph! Took him a couple of months for the roundtrip!
Fred

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 06:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonesy (Post 640191)
Do you all take PayPal. I'd be in for five.

Thanks,

Scott

Hi Scott - unfortunately no Pay Pal but we'll take cash, check or money order!
Thanks,
Fred

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 07:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dr.j (Post 640215)
Open to your neighbours up north? I'd drive down for the tour and pick it up:)

Hi Dave, sure Canadians are more than welcome - if you are serious about wanting to drive down for the tour, here's how to register to attend:

http://www.texasmafc.com/2013/index.html

Just click on the link for "Tour registration form" and fill it out. We'll see you in June.

I was Tour Chairman the last two times our club hosted the Texas Tour and we have had as many as 550 Model A'ers show up to attend and some have driven their Model A from as far away as California and Georgia. It's always a fun event and this is a significant tour because it's the 50th Anniversary of our statewide tour.

Thanks,
Fred

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 07:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by montanafordman (Post 640230)
Well, since I need an engine, I might just have to buy a ticket!

Big Sky entries are definitely welcome. You could do the reverse "Lonesome Dove" trip to pick it up if you win. :)

Good luck,
Fred

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 07:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by QGolden (Post 640233)
I'll buy a couple of tickets. When I win it, I will have a great excuse for a Road Trip. :-)

That would make a great road trip if you drive from New Hampshire to central Texas - could be real newsworthy if you drive the A in your avatar all that way!

Good luck,
Fred

montanafordman 04-27-2013 08:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin-backtexas (Post 640250)
Big Sky entries are definitely welcome. You could do the reverse "Lonesome Dove" trip to pick it up if you win. :)

Good luck,
Fred

Would be great thats for sure! I have to get back to "Big Sky Country" first! My handle is a carryover from another forum about ford trucks and an earlier time in my life when I lived there. I flew the nest and now live in Washington but I'm aching to get back one day! ;) My Model A is from there and lots of family still in Montana. Visiting Montana and Texas in one summer would certainly be awesome!

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by montanafordman (Post 640292)
Would be great thats for sure! I have to get back to "Big Sky Country" first! My handle is a carryover from another forum about ford trucks and an earlier time in my life when I lived there. I flew the nest and now live in Washington but I'm aching to get back one day! ;) My Model A is from there and lots of family still in Montana. Visiting Montana and Texas in one summer would certainly be awesome!

Yep, definitely beautiful country! One of our local club members is from Montana and he likes to talk about "God's Country" alot. Guess it wouldn't be too far out of your way to drive through Montana on your way to Texas. Another local guy actually drove his Model T roundtrip from Austin, Texas to Alaska - talk about a challenge at 30 mph!!!

I see you are from Tacoma - we attended the MARC/MAFCA Joint Meet (National Convention) held in Tacoma back in 1994 and really enjoyed our visit. We got to tour Harold LeMay's collection when it was still partially in his backyard, plus a school gymnasium he bought to store some of his cars in. Harold was a man after my own heart! I understand the MAFCA National Convention is being held again in Tacoma next year hosted by the Gallopin' Gerties Chapter.
Fred

Rowdy 04-27-2013 10:15 AM

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Shipping it should not be more than $250 if you know how to go about getting a decent quote from a freight company. My biggest questions are, who is going to strap it to a pallet and is there a business the freight company can pick it up at. Also if I won are you going to restamp my engine numbers ( and make them look correct)before it leaves Texas? The engine number serves as the VIN here. If not I would try to sell it someone close by the area it is in and put the money towards my original engine. Rod

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 01:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowdy (Post 640348)
Shipping it should not be more than $250 if you know how to go about getting a decent quote from a freight company. My biggest questions are, who is going to strap it to a pallet and is there a business the freight company can pick it up at. Also if I won are you going to restamp my engine numbers ( and make them look correct)before it leaves Texas? The engine number serves as the VIN here. If not I would try to sell it someone close by the area it is in and put the money towards my original engine. Rod

Rod: If you won the engine raffle you would have the option of picking it up in person or arranging to have it shipped - it would be necessary for you to make all the shipping arrangements including finding someone willing to palletize it or "box" it for safe shipping.

I would think if you won a $5,000 engine by spending $5.00 you could spend an additional $20 to buy your own engine stamps and stamp your own number on it. Otherwise, since you would be the owner of it, your could sell it if you chose to.

Fred

Tom Wesenberg 04-27-2013 01:46 PM

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The winner can buy me the gas and I will deliver it. :D

This winter I drove across the middle of Texas from east to west, and find it's a beautiful state. The next civil war I'm joining up with Texas.:D

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 01:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 640470)
The winner can buy me the gas and I will deliver it. :D

This winter I drove across the middle of Texas from east to west, and find it's a beautiful state. The next civil war I'm joining up with Texas.:D

Tom, glad you enjoyed the visit - actually those of us down south refer to it as the "War Between the States". We'll keep your comment in mind and should someone up your way win the engine let them contact you to see if they'll spring for the petrol.

You didn't say how long it took you to drive across - funny story: many years ago I was working in Dallas and we had a new employee who had just transferred in from Philadelphia. The first week he was there I caught him looking at a map and asked what he was doing. He replied, "I'm new to Texas and think I'll drive out to El Paso this weekend and do some exploring." When I told him he needed to pack a couple of lunches since it was 635 miles one way and would take 9 hours of driving each way he nixed the idea. Even though Alaska can now claim the "biggest" state, lots of people forget how big Texas is - Texarkana, TX is closer to Chicago than it is to El Paso, TX. It's 813 miles from Texarkana to El Paso and 794 miles from Texarkana to Chicago. It's 900 miles from the southern tip at Brownsville to Texline, TX just northwest of Amarillo. Nice drive nonstop if your have 14 hours to kill. We all know that if the ice melted in Alaska we would still be biggest!

Thanks,
Fred

CarlG 04-27-2013 01:57 PM

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The old saying when I was a kid traveling across Texas:

"The sun has riz, and the sun has set, and here we iz -- still in Texas yet!

Rowdy 04-27-2013 01:58 PM

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If I won, guesse I would sell it as is where is for 4K, that would finish paying for parts and machine shop work for mine with about 1K left over for something else. May buy a ticket. Rod

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 02:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 640477)
The old saying when I was a kid traveling across Texas:

"The sun has riz, and the sun has set, and here we are -- still in Texas yet!

Carl:
My son and his wife were stationed at Eielson Air Force Base for three and a half years and lived outside Fairbanks in North Pole, AK. We came up to visit in early July - when the 4th rolled around I asked my son, "What time do the fireworks start?" He confirmed my suspicion that there were no fireworks since it never got dark. Hard to sleep when it's 4:00 am and looks like noon.

The following March he called me one morning and said, "What's the weather like in Georgetown today Dad?" I replied, "Guess it's 70 degrees, why?" He said, "How does 68 below zero sound?" Told me he had his wife make a pot of scalding coffee, poured him a cup and went out onto the porch and tossed the contents into the air - WHOOOOSH! - the contents instantly vaporized and nothing hit the ground. He said he got my granddaughter's bubble blowing stuff and blew some bubbles - they landed on the porch and when he thumped them with his finger they shattered like a lightbulb!

No thanks, I'll take Texas weather even with the heat!

Really enjoyed visiting your beautiful state though - can see why it's hard to keep highways paved and smooth with the permafrost heaving.

Fred

BrianM 04-27-2013 03:57 PM

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Thanks for the single piece bearing explanation Fred. Makes sense now.

lookin-backtexas 04-27-2013 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianM (Post 640522)
Thanks for the single piece bearing explanation Fred. Makes sense now.

Brian - glad you asked the question which made me call the engine builder to get an explanation. Now everyone should know.
Thanks,
Fred

Maclab58 04-28-2013 12:34 PM

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Bought my tickets at Pate! Nice lookin engine!!!!!!

lookin-backtexas 04-28-2013 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maclab58 (Post 640984)
Bought my tickets at Pate! Nice lookin engine!!!!!!

Thanks, hope you win!
Fred

bogiediver 04-30-2013 01:12 PM

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Not that it matters much, but curious...

1) Is there a minimum number of tickets that need to be sold to make the raffle valid? (e.g. some raffles around here need to sell X tickets or they revert to a 50/50)

2) Is there a maximum number of tickets to be sold?

A numbers guy - just wondering the odds... although in reality it's really 50% - I either win or I don't...

3) Who/what is the beneficiary of the raffle proceeds?

$20 on its way...

lookin-backtexas 04-30-2013 06:30 PM

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Bogiediver:
To try and answer your questions:
1 - this is an absolute raffle like a "no reserve auction" meaning there is no minimum number of tickets that must be sold in order for the drawing to occur; someone's ticket will be drawn and they will win the engine - the drawing will be held on June 8th at the awards banquet concluding the 50th Annual Model A Ford Texas Tour (statewide convention).
2 - There is no maximum number of tickets to be sold (our club hopes to sell at least enough tickets to cover our cost of buying the freshly rebuilt engine though).
3 - The beneficiary of the raffle proceeds is our club which bought the engine from the rebuilder; we are a non-profit corporation and a 20 year old chapter of the Model A Ford Club of America.

Hope that answers your questions and we appreciate your participation. We have hosted the statewide Texas Tour twice before and have had good success in raffling off newly rebuilt engines.

Be sure to include your email address when you send in your money so I can confirm receipt of the funds and send you your ticket numbers. We will announce the winner on June 8th and hopefully I'll get to give you a phone call if you're the lucky winner. A $5,000 inserted engine for a $5 ticket isn't such a bad deal! Or if they are smart, they'll but five tickets for $20 to increase their odds and possibly win a $5,000 inserted engine for a $4 ticket!

Thanks,
Fred
Membership Chairman and Founder/First President
Lone Star Model A Ford Club
Georgetown, TX

Craig Lewis 04-30-2013 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin-backtexas (Post 640077)
Brian:
No, the engine has insert bearings instead of babbitt. I just got off the phone with the engine builder and what he meant by stating "one piece bearings" refers to the fact that most engine rebuilders who do inserted engines have historically used what he calls "old technology" meaning they use MG bearings that are not wide enough to fill the gap in the block and used two separate bearings on each half. He uses a single bearing on each half (obviously you can't have a one piece bearing that wraps around the crank). He pointed out another advantage in doing so in that the old technology resulted in a gap between the two bearings at the rear main; his single bearing fills the entire space resulting in no gap.

Hope this answered your question.

Thanks,
Fred

Yes but doesn't this gap between each bearing create such a wonderful oil-well...in fact 2 oil-wells on the rear main which we know takes the biggest beating.
It seems to me that after each shutdown, motor oil settles and is trapped in these wells between the bearing shells for days or months maybe, always ready to provide instant lubrication upon start up.

lookin-backtexas 05-03-2013 11:45 AM

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Ticket purchases are coming in - we've had Ford Barners from as far away as Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Connecticut, Tennessee, Kentucky, Colorado, Minnesota, Missouri, Illinois, Mississippi, Wisconsin, California, South Carolina, Michigan, Canada, Mexico and believe it or not, New Zealand send in their money for raffle tickets already! One of you could win this $5,000 engine for a $5 ticket or 5 tickets for $20! Even if you don't want to pick it up in person, it would be worth paying to have it shipped if you're the lucky winner!
Fred

Mitch//pa 05-03-2013 12:22 PM

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check in route,
i think i will take tom up on the gas money offer if i win


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