The Ford Barn

taiko12 · 02-12-2013, 12:04 AM

Hello,

This is my 1st post. Hopefully you can get to the picuture with the following code below. If not I was able to get it on the gallery of picutures section. My question is this engine block a Model A. I could not find any numbers or letters on it. My other question if it is a Model A engine is that hole below the cam shaft hole suppose to be there or did it rust out creating a ragged hole there. Thanks for the help.

afuncar · 02-15-2013, 08:14 PM

yes that is a model a engine and don't worry about that hole it's normal and for some reason unknown to most ford chose not to machine them .

Tom Wesenberg · 02-15-2013, 08:24 PM

The serial engine number is found on the casting pad just above the water inlet on the left side center, just below the head gasket.

Joe K · 02-15-2013, 08:24 PM

If you look on the opposite side you'll see the lower jacket water connection about mid way each way. Above this and just below the head/block juncture, you'll find a raised rectangle of the surface which is where the engine number is usually stamped.

Original Ford numbers usually begin and end in A (or possibly AA)

If the engine has been rebuilt, it could be the original numbers, the rectangle cleaned off with a grinder and new number unique to the rebuilder re-stamped, or nothing at all stamped.

Very early engines have the number rectangle expanded into a "medallion" shape. But this is not likely to be one of these.

Looks like fun.

Joe K

dave in australia · 02-15-2013, 08:39 PM

In addition to what Joe said, engine numbers can also start with CA, CAQ, CAW, CAE, CAR, CAT, CAY, CAU, CAI, CAO, CAP, CAA, CAS, CAD. These were used on Canadian produced engines.

Charlie Stephens · 02-15-2013, 08:41 PM

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I must be living in a different world. All of the serial numbers I have seen (US production only) begin and end with a star. The second digit is A or AA but it does not repeat at the end.

Charlie Stephens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe K

If you look on the opposite side you'll see the lower jacket water connection about mid way each way. Above this and just below the head/block juncture, you'll find a raised rectangle of the surface which is where the engine number is usually stamped.

Original Ford numbers usually begin and end in A (or possibly AA)

If the engine has been rebuilt, it could be the original numbers, the rectangle cleaned off with a grinder and new number unique to the rebuilder re-stamped, or nothing at all stamped.

Very early engines have the number rectangle expanded into a "medallion" shape. But this is not likely to be one of these.

Looks like fun.

Joe K

V4F · 02-15-2013, 08:46 PM

All of the serial numbers I have seen (US production only) begin and end with a star. The second digit is A or AA but it does not repeat at the end.

ditto !

Joe K · 02-15-2013, 09:10 PM

Stars are not numbers. (Serial number?)

Of course A (or any other of the sequences above) are not numbers either.

But VERY unlikely for the state to record a "star" on your official entry for VID.

Maybe better for someone who has access to provide him a pix, or maybe seek one online?

We're all just trying to help, right?

Joe K

Jim Parker Toronto · 02-15-2013, 09:55 PM

Here's a sample engine number for you to see......

Joe K · 02-15-2013, 10:02 PM

Thank you. Nice stand by the way. Offset to that 2" pipe.

Joe K

Jazzjr · 02-16-2013, 12:12 AM

Above the Water Inlet on the side of the Block you should find a Pad like in the photo below with a Number on it , unless they have been ground off.

Mike V. Florida · 02-16-2013, 01:15 AM

The purpose of the "cracked" hole is to allow oil to overflow onto the timing gears.

02-12-2013, 12:04 AM	#1
taiko12 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3	Is this a Model A engine and ... Hello, This is my 1st post. Hopefully you can get to the picuture with the following code below. If not I was able to get it on the gallery of picutures section. My question is this engine block a Model A. I could not find any numbers or letters on it. My other question if it is a Model A engine is that hole below the cam shaft hole suppose to be there or did it rust out creating a ragged hole there. Thanks for the help.

02-15-2013, 08:14 PM	#2
afuncar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: coquitlam b.c. canada Posts: 130	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... yes that is a model a engine and don't worry about that hole it's normal and for some reason unknown to most ford chose not to machine them .

02-15-2013, 08:24 PM	#3
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... The serial engine number is found on the casting pad just above the water inlet on the left side center, just below the head gasket.

02-15-2013, 08:24 PM	#4
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... If you look on the opposite side you'll see the lower jacket water connection about mid way each way. Above this and just below the head/block juncture, you'll find a raised rectangle of the surface which is where the engine number is usually stamped. Original Ford numbers usually begin and end in A (or possibly AA) If the engine has been rebuilt, it could be the original numbers, the rectangle cleaned off with a grinder and new number unique to the rebuilder re-stamped, or nothing at all stamped. Very early engines have the number rectangle expanded into a "medallion" shape. But this is not likely to be one of these. Looks like fun. Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse. Last edited by Joe K; 02-15-2013 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Tom and I are having a race!

02-15-2013, 08:39 PM	#5
dave in australia Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,178	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... In addition to what Joe said, engine numbers can also start with CA, CAQ, CAW, CAE, CAR, CAT, CAY, CAU, CAI, CAO, CAP, CAA, CAS, CAD. These were used on Canadian produced engines.

02-15-2013, 08:46 PM	#7
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... All of the serial numbers I have seen (US production only) begin and end with a star. The second digit is A or AA but it does not repeat at the end. ditto ! __________________ V4f

02-15-2013, 09:10 PM	#8
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... Stars are not numbers. (Serial number?) Of course A (or any other of the sequences above) are not numbers either. But VERY unlikely for the state to record a "star" on your official entry for VID. Maybe better for someone who has access to provide him a pix, or maybe seek one online? We're all just trying to help, right? Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse. Last edited by Joe K; 02-15-2013 at 09:22 PM.

02-15-2013, 10:02 PM	#10
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... Thank you. Nice stand by the way. Offset to that 2" pipe. Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse.

02-16-2013, 01:15 AM	#12
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Is this a Model A engine and ... The purpose of the "cracked" hole is to allow oil to overflow onto the timing gears. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II