The Ford Barn

deuce_roadster · 07-15-2023, 10:21 PM

Geez, what do you suppose this thing on its side weighed??

ford38v8 · 07-16-2023, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

Had to be a Schwarzenegger to steer that thing. Look at the size of that steering wheel, and check out the tow-in on the sideways picture!

1952henry · 07-16-2023, 06:17 AM

Sideways pic is a plastic model.

cas3 · 07-16-2023, 09:21 AM

I asked about the Mack, he says yeah, no u joints or knuckles on the steering axle. It uses gears on the top and bottom of the king pins to drive the wheel somehow. I'll see if I can find a pic

rotorwrench · 07-16-2023, 10:18 AM

It might be one of the early constant velocity types. Marmon Herrington developed stuff like that back in the 30s. A lot of stuff was shared during the war. Patents were overlooked for military equipment during that period since no civilian vehicles were being manufactured.

1952henry · 07-16-2023, 11:25 AM

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No cv joints in Mack NOs. All gears. Marmon Herrington used an existing cv joint called a Bendix (not MH’s design at all), same as some WW2 jeeps. Not the strongest joint, a Rzeppa was much better, a uJoint better still. Early Jeeps had all 3 variants. Weiss patented the Bendix joint in 1920, Rzeppa filed patent in 1927

I can’t make a link work, but Armorama site has a kersploded view of this Mack axle. Enough gears to compete with that above pictured tandem drive Ford. Google Mack NO 6x6 front axle.

cas3 · 07-18-2023, 11:45 AM

Here's the Mack axle, I wonder if my Kubota tractor is similar as the housing shape looks the same

petehoovie · 07-18-2023, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cas3

Here's the Mack axle, I wonder if my Kubota tractor is similar as the housing shape looks the same

GB SISSON · 07-18-2023, 04:05 PM

Wow! That is really something. So what we are seeing here are kingpins spinning in roller bearings doing double duty in the power delivery as well? This has been a very interesting thread.

07-15-2023, 10:21 PM	#21
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,816	Re: Interesting Article - WW2 Ford Variants Geez, what do you suppose this thing on its side weighed??

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1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,624	Re: Interesting Article - WW2 Ford Variants Sideways pic is a plastic model. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

07-16-2023, 09:21 AM	#24
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,606	Re: Interesting Article - WW2 Ford Variants I asked about the Mack, he says yeah, no u joints or knuckles on the steering axle. It uses gears on the top and bottom of the king pins to drive the wheel somehow. I'll see if I can find a pic

07-16-2023, 10:18 AM	#25
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,505	Re: Interesting Article - WW2 Ford Variants It might be one of the early constant velocity types. Marmon Herrington developed stuff like that back in the 30s. A lot of stuff was shared during the war. Patents were overlooked for military equipment during that period since no civilian vehicles were being manufactured.

07-16-2023, 11:25 AM	#26
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,624	Re: Interesting Article - WW2 Ford Variants Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) No cv joints in Mack NOs. All gears. Marmon Herrington used an existing cv joint called a Bendix (not MH’s design at all), same as some WW2 jeeps. Not the strongest joint, a Rzeppa was much better, a uJoint better still. Early Jeeps had all 3 variants. Weiss patented the Bendix joint in 1920, Rzeppa filed patent in 1927 I can’t make a link work, but Armorama site has a kersploded view of this Mack axle. Enough gears to compete with that above pictured tandem drive Ford. Google Mack NO 6x6 front axle. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs. Last edited by 1952henry; 07-16-2023 at 11:37 AM.

07-18-2023, 04:05 PM	#29
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 5,105	Re: Interesting Article - WW2 Ford Variants Wow! That is really something. So what we are seeing here are kingpins spinning in roller bearings doing double duty in the power delivery as well? This has been a very interesting thread. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)