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NZ28ModelA · 07-24-2022, 07:56 PM

Hello fellow Barners,

Its recently needed cracked repaired on a windscreen stantion base on my pickup roadster..
Previous to this, the windscreen lower rubber and been glued shut, so the screen could not be pivoted open. But know that it is free to move, it folds inwards when driving at speed, no matter how hard I tighten the chrome wingnuts..
I am wondering if I am missing something??

Thank you in advance..

Mike Peters · 07-24-2022, 08:19 PM

Had the same problem with a Phaeton. The stop gap fix was to put a piece of windshield rubber molding under it in the middle. Didn't take very much to stop it from blowing in at speed.

nkaminar · 07-24-2022, 08:34 PM

Is there any way to adopt the swing arms used in the closed cars?

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...8171&cat=41796

NZ28ModelA · 07-24-2022, 09:17 PM

Mike, its so simple, its a fantastic idea!!

At the moment its pops in and rests on the windwing glass brackets..

Thank you

chrs1961815 · 07-24-2022, 09:18 PM

With the bad reproduction stanchion cones it won't stay closed. A&L used to make good repros of them.

NZ28ModelA · 07-24-2022, 09:18 PM

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Hi Nkaminar,

I didn't realize the closed cars were different?? Do they have built in stops??

old31 · 07-25-2022, 04:08 AM

The closed car swing arms will not work on a roadster.

I made a stop from the middle screw to keep the windshield closed. To keep the windshield open I place a piece of rubber between the two.

nkaminar · 07-25-2022, 05:46 AM

For the closed cars, the stock swing arms did not have the notches. The ones with notches are an after market accessory. They work well but are you have to be able to manipulate both at the same time, which means you have to be seated in the car.

Brian SATX · 07-25-2022, 06:14 AM

nkaminar- I believe that the 1928 did not have notches, but all after that did have notches. The notch is the "ideal" placement for the best ventilation.

ChicagoBob · 07-25-2022, 06:02 PM

I servo-taped a 1" steel corner bracket (painted black) onto the inside of each stanchion base, just below the stanchion pivot bolt, where the windshield frame can rest against it. Almost invisible, and removable. It probably prevents folding the windshield down, though.

A piece of adhesive-backed foam, like what comes with Shorai batteries, in that spot would probably accomplish the same thing, but would be more visible.

Jim/GA · 07-25-2022, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ28ModelA

Hello fellow Barners,

Its recently needed cracked repaired on a windscreen stantion base on my pickup roadster..
Previous to this, the windscreen lower rubber and been glued shut, so the screen could not be pivoted open. But know that it is free to move, it folds inwards when driving at speed, no matter how hard I tighten the chrome wingnuts..
I am wondering if I am missing something??

Thank you in advance..

I have found that sometimes the wingnuts at the top of each stanchion bottom out on the studs before the nut has really locked the windshield tight in the cone.

A simple cure for this is to add a washer or two to the stud before tightening the wingnut. Try it. If it does not fix your problem, you can remove the washers and try something else.

NZ28ModelA · 07-25-2022, 08:10 PM

Hi Old31, that a great fix!! Thank you.. Interesting, I notice your fuel is showing through your glkass at half full.. Mine only shows when I I am above the "F"...

NZ28ModelA · 07-25-2022, 08:11 PM

Hi Jim,

Such a simple and logical idea.. I will doublecheck.. Thank you

bobv · 07-26-2022, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ28ModelA

Hi Old31, that a great fix!! Thank you.. Interesting, I notice your fuel is showing through your glkass at half full.. Mine only shows when I I am above the "F"...

That doesn't sound possible. Your gauge must be way off?

fundytides · 07-26-2022, 12:49 PM

I agree with Jim. Had the same problem with my 31 and it turned out that the repro wing nuts were bottoming out before being tight. Don't know if it was poor quality repros or worn cones but a few extra stainless washer cured the problem. The other problem I had was that the stanchions would fold down too far when laying the windshield flat. A little bronze build up on the lower stanchion (the part with the stud in it) solved that problem.

07-24-2022, 07:56 PM	#1
NZ28ModelA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 117	Front Windscreen keeps blowing in Hello fellow Barners, Its recently needed cracked repaired on a windscreen stantion base on my pickup roadster.. Previous to this, the windscreen lower rubber and been glued shut, so the screen could not be pivoted open. But know that it is free to move, it folds inwards when driving at speed, no matter how hard I tighten the chrome wingnuts.. I am wondering if I am missing something?? Thank you in advance..

07-24-2022, 08:19 PM	#2
Mike Peters Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: South East Wisconsin Posts: 1,279	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in Had the same problem with a Phaeton. The stop gap fix was to put a piece of windshield rubber molding under it in the middle. Didn't take very much to stop it from blowing in at speed.

07-24-2022, 08:34 PM	#3
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 4,058	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in Is there any way to adopt the swing arms used in the closed cars? https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...8171&cat=41796 __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

07-24-2022, 09:17 PM	#4
NZ28ModelA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 117	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in Mike, its so simple, its a fantastic idea!! At the moment its pops in and rests on the windwing glass brackets.. Thank you

07-24-2022, 09:18 PM	#5
chrs1961815 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Spring Grove, Illinois Posts: 1,371	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in With the bad reproduction stanchion cones it won't stay closed. A&L used to make good repros of them. __________________ "The more things change, the more they stay the same."

07-25-2022, 05:46 AM	#8
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 4,058	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in For the closed cars, the stock swing arms did not have the notches. The ones with notches are an after market accessory. They work well but are you have to be able to manipulate both at the same time, which means you have to be seated in the car. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

07-25-2022, 06:14 AM	#9
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 825	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in nkaminar- I believe that the 1928 did not have notches, but all after that did have notches. The notch is the "ideal" placement for the best ventilation. __________________ Brian SATX

07-25-2022, 06:02 PM	#10
ChicagoBob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Yorkville, IL Posts: 126	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in I servo-taped a 1" steel corner bracket (painted black) onto the inside of each stanchion base, just below the stanchion pivot bolt, where the windshield frame can rest against it. Almost invisible, and removable. It probably prevents folding the windshield down, though. A piece of adhesive-backed foam, like what comes with Shorai batteries, in that spot would probably accomplish the same thing, but would be more visible.

07-25-2022, 08:10 PM	#12
NZ28ModelA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 117	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in Hi Old31, that a great fix!! Thank you.. Interesting, I notice your fuel is showing through your glkass at half full.. Mine only shows when I I am above the "F"...

07-25-2022, 08:11 PM	#13
NZ28ModelA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 117	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in Hi Jim, Such a simple and logical idea.. I will doublecheck.. Thank you

07-26-2022, 12:49 PM	#15
fundytides Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 483	Re: Front Windscreen keeps blowing in I agree with Jim. Had the same problem with my 31 and it turned out that the repro wing nuts were bottoming out before being tight. Don't know if it was poor quality repros or worn cones but a few extra stainless washer cured the problem. The other problem I had was that the stanchions would fold down too far when laying the windshield flat. A little bronze build up on the lower stanchion (the part with the stud in it) solved that problem.