The Ford Barn

Ian1932 · 11-17-2019, 01:39 PM

Cleaned this up and dropped if to the guys working on my flathead. Cleaned up nice...

flatheadmurre · 11-17-2019, 02:35 PM

I like them...have a few here to.
Should have a drip pan instead of the plywood...real nice and easy to take out and put in the partswasher when done disassembling.
Nice design with the hollow shafts letting you install cambearings and a cam even with press on gear.

Ian1932 · 11-17-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre

I like them...have a few here to.
Should have a drip pan instead of the plywood...real nice and easy to take out and put in the partswasher when done disassembling.
Nice design with the hollow shafts letting you install cambearings and a cam even with press on gear.

I have another engine on one. Its nice how you can spin it around with little effort...If only i had a clue how to confidently rebuild a v8 myself...

petehoovie · 11-17-2019, 05:17 PM

Ol' Ron · 11-17-2019, 06:51 PM

I picked up one of those back in the 60's from a junkyard. WE were running the stockcar back then. Been using it ever since.

Tim Ayers · 11-17-2019, 07:07 PM

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I want one very badly

KiWinUS · 11-17-2019, 07:13 PM

I have an original stand (thanks Don Rodgers) but need the pieces that bolt to engine. Guess someday I’ll make them. I have 2 nice K.R.Wilson stands & would love my Clayborne complete to compliment them.

19Fordy · 11-17-2019, 08:42 PM

It would be neat to see one supporting a flatty.

V8COOPMAN · 11-17-2019, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

It would be neat to see one supporting a flatty.

These look like a slightly updated version of the Clayborne unit. DD

vilanar · 11-19-2019, 02:44 AM

Ok, one more thing that I have to build..... no chance that I would ever find original one.
Coopman where did you spot those pics ?

flatheadmurre · 11-19-2019, 11:21 AM

Here´s a pic of front and rear mounting to block.

19Fordy · 11-19-2019, 03:12 PM

Thanks V8 for posting those photos. I never saw one before.

vilanar · 11-19-2019, 04:14 PM

Thanks Flatheadmurre for additional pics.
Great device...

GaryU. · 11-19-2019, 04:14 PM

Local guy 10 minutes from my house has at least 10 of these. First time I saw them he told me the Ford dealership he started working at in the early '50's was throwing them out so he took them all home. No, they are not for sale or I would have at least one in my garage already!!

Kerk · 11-19-2019, 05:33 PM

I have Clayborne Engine stands BUT I do not have the adapters for the Ford engines. I would be glad to swap for a set or pair of the correct mounts . One is being used to hold my truck frame which allows me to roll it around. Any leads or help would be appreciated, Thanks. kerk from Ma.

Ian1932 · 11-19-2019, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerk

I have Clayborne Engine stands BUT I do not have the adapters for the Ford engines. I would be glad to swap for a set or pair of the correct mounts . One is being used to hold my truck frame which allows me to roll it around. Any leads or help would be appreciated, Thanks. kerk from Ma.

i have another end, the part that mounts to the bell housing. Maybe we can trade something?

Kerk · 11-19-2019, 07:05 PM

Is that the end that has the Large ring that fits the large 1/2 round saddle which is about 7-1/2 inches dia. . I know basicly what it looks Like. kerk

KiWinUS · 11-19-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre

Here´s a pic of front and rear mounting to block.

Thanks Murray I will use your pics to fab these parts.
Cheers
Tony

Ian1932 · 11-19-2019, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerk

Is that the end that has the Large ring that fits the large 1/2 round saddle which is about 7-1/2 inches dia. . I know basicly what it looks Like. kerk

the other side...

JM 35 Sedan · 11-19-2019, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tim ayers

i want one very badly

me too !!!
If anyone here has one they wish to sell, or knows someone who would like to sell one, please send me a PM with details.

Ian1932 · 11-20-2019, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

Pete, how did you post pictures real big like you did? They look like screen shots almost...Thanks!

V8COOPMAN · 11-20-2019, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian1932

Pete, how did you post pictures real big like you did? They look like screen shots almost...Thanks!

Ian....Coopman here! Look at the pictures as posted in Post #11. They're the small size. If you click on one of those pictures, it becomes LARGE. Then, you just go through the same, necessary steps to post the pic in it's now-enlarged form....like below! DD

little!

BIG!

Tim Ayers · 11-20-2019, 09:17 AM

Do you think there is enough of a market to remake or repop these? Seems like the basic frame is steel stock and the mounts and receivers are cast.

With CNC, I don't see it being that complicated to make. I'd be willing to look into it.

V8COOPMAN · 11-20-2019, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

Do you think there is enough of a market to remake or repop these? Seems like the basic frame is steel stock and the mounts and receivers are cast.

With CNC, I don't see it being that complicated to make. I'd be willing to look into it.

John (JM 35 Sedan) would likely buy your first one. That big, round hoop and it's associated support look to be the most complicated part of it (if you want to replicate it authentically). DD

Tim Ayers · 11-20-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

John (JM 35 Sedan) would likely buy your first one. That big, round hoop and it's associated support look to be the most complicated part of it (if you want to replicate it authentically). DD

I'm thinking the hoop should be simple (a cut piece of correct diameter pipe) and then weld rings around the outside. Do those slots in the ring do anything like lock it in place?

I'll need to really look at one closely to figure it out.

Mart · 11-20-2019, 10:01 AM

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Are the pieces that bolt on centred on the camshaft centreline, or a little bit higher or lower? They shouldn't be too hard to fabricate.

I was thinking that wheel rims of a suitable size could be used (in a cut down form) for the circular part.

The advantage of this type of stand is that one bank can be held vertical which is possibly useful if trying to soak the pistons in the bore. Not to mention it is supported at both ends.
Mart.

flatheadmurre · 11-20-2019, 12:01 PM

They are centered around the camshaft letting you remove/install cambearings and camshaft with gear attached.
The slots for locking lets you rotate it for several positions including boring each cylinderbank.
I still have a couple of boringbar plates that let you bore the early ones without removing the studs.

V8COOPMAN · 11-20-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

Do those slots in the ring do anything like lock it in place?

Those slots appear to be spaced every 45 degrees. If you look at the big ring in picture, there appears to be a knob on the bottom. It's likely spring-loaded when you pull it downward, pulling a pawl out of the locking slot on the bottom of the ring, so that you can rotate the engine to whichever slot you desire to re-lock it in. DD

Ian1932 · 11-20-2019, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Those slots appear to be spaced every 45 degrees. If you look at the big ring in picture, there appears to be a knob on the bottom. It's likely spring-loaded when you pull it downward, pulling a pawl out of the locking slot on the bottom of the ring, so that you can rotate the engine to whichever slot you desire to re-lock it in. DD

Yes that is how it works. Its actually quite easy to do.

Here are pictures of the one my father built from scratch. Its actually much more beefier than the one i first showed, the original. My dad could make anything...Im not kidding. When i was looking at it i found all the parts for a 3rd stand that he also made at the same time. It just needs welded together. Just the base portion actually. The steel he used is much heavier and has brass casters that re-purposed. Im going to weld that stand together soon as its all cut to length and should be rather easy. Ill do the same and find some old heavy casters somewhere...

1952henry · 11-20-2019, 01:36 PM

Coopman is holding tightly to the info about the two newer stands he pictured.

V8COOPMAN · 11-20-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952henry

Coopman is holding tightly to the info about the two newer stands he pictured.

I located those two stands (that's ONE picture) somewhere floating around the internet. I looked for them again yesterday and was not able to find the pic again. That pic was mixed-in with a bunch of images of modern day junk engine stands. There was no identifying info with that picture.....sorry! THE Coopman shares ALMOST all of my VERY limited knowledge!! DD

1952henry · 11-20-2019, 09:03 PM

Aha, not being coy then. I know that path of not being able to find an image. I saw a Model A doodle bug picture that I cannot find again. What was different was it had front wheel assist. I can't remember if the front differential was a Model A or a Marmon Herrington commercial front drive axle.

V8COOPMAN · 12-05-2019, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

It would be neat to see one supporting a flatty.

Jim....When it rains, it seems like it pours! Here are some more pics that popped-up just this morning on the forum WITH engines mounted. Thank you Ian! DD

11-17-2019, 02:35 PM	#2
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand I like them...have a few here to. Should have a drip pan instead of the plywood...real nice and easy to take out and put in the partswasher when done disassembling. Nice design with the hollow shafts letting you install cambearings and a cam even with press on gear.

11-17-2019, 05:17 PM	#4
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,427	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

11-17-2019, 06:51 PM	#5
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,896	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand I picked up one of those back in the 60's from a junkyard. WE were running the stockcar back then. Been using it ever since.

11-17-2019, 07:07 PM	#6
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,251	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I want one very badly

11-17-2019, 07:13 PM	#7
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,984	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand I have an original stand (thanks Don Rodgers) but need the pieces that bolt to engine. Guess someday I’ll make them. I have 2 nice K.R.Wilson stands & would love my Clayborne complete to compliment them.

11-17-2019, 08:42 PM	#8
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,008	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand It would be neat to see one supporting a flatty.

11-19-2019, 02:44 AM	#10
vilanar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 162	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Ok, one more thing that I have to build..... no chance that I would ever find original one. Coopman where did you spot those pics ?

11-19-2019, 03:12 PM	#12
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,008	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Thanks V8 for posting those photos. I never saw one before.

11-19-2019, 04:14 PM	#13
vilanar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 162	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Thanks Flatheadmurre for additional pics. Great device...

11-19-2019, 04:14 PM	#14
GaryU. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Beaver Dam, Wisconsin Posts: 821	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Local guy 10 minutes from my house has at least 10 of these. First time I saw them he told me the Ford dealership he started working at in the early '50's was throwing them out so he took them all home. No, they are not for sale or I would have at least one in my garage already!!

11-19-2019, 05:33 PM	#15
Kerk Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 642	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand I have Clayborne Engine stands BUT I do not have the adapters for the Ford engines. I would be glad to swap for a set or pair of the correct mounts . One is being used to hold my truck frame which allows me to roll it around. Any leads or help would be appreciated, Thanks. kerk from Ma.

11-19-2019, 07:05 PM	#17
Kerk Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 642	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Is that the end that has the Large ring that fits the large 1/2 round saddle which is about 7-1/2 inches dia. . I know basicly what it looks Like. kerk

11-20-2019, 09:17 AM	#23
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,251	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Do you think there is enough of a market to remake or repop these? Seems like the basic frame is steel stock and the mounts and receivers are cast. With CNC, I don't see it being that complicated to make. I'd be willing to look into it.

11-20-2019, 10:01 AM	#26
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,784	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Are the pieces that bolt on centred on the camshaft centreline, or a little bit higher or lower? They shouldn't be too hard to fabricate. I was thinking that wheel rims of a suitable size could be used (in a cut down form) for the circular part. The advantage of this type of stand is that one bank can be held vertical which is possibly useful if trying to soak the pistons in the bore. Not to mention it is supported at both ends. Mart. Last edited by Mart; 11-20-2019 at 10:21 AM.

11-20-2019, 12:01 PM	#27
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand They are centered around the camshaft letting you remove/install cambearings and camshaft with gear attached. The slots for locking lets you rotate it for several positions including boring each cylinderbank. I still have a couple of boringbar plates that let you bore the early ones without removing the studs.

11-20-2019, 01:36 PM	#30
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,624	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Coopman is holding tightly to the info about the two newer stands he pictured. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

11-20-2019, 09:03 PM	#32
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,624	Re: Cool Clayborne Engine Stand Aha, not being coy then. I know that path of not being able to find an image. I saw a Model A doodle bug picture that I cannot find again. What was different was it had front wheel assist. I can't remember if the front differential was a Model A or a Marmon Herrington commercial front drive axle. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.