Do any of you smell a rat here?

[Standing Elk]

I found this ad on Craigslist and am suspicious. About a month ago this same person had an "immaculate" 1930 coupe for sale on Craigslist for, as I remember, about $10,000. That ad had many pictures of a very nice BLACK 1930 coupe and read almost word for word the same as this ad. I checked with E-Bay and they have no record of this person or the e-mail address. The car was never listed on E-bay. So giving the benefit of the doubt to this person I have to ask how do you use E-bay Motors without listing the item? I thought about reporting the ad to Craigslist but do not want to cause this person undue trouble if the ad is legitimate. So what is you opinion other than if it is on the up and up it is one heck of a deal!!

Hey,

I'm selling it at this price of $6,000 because my husband died 2 months ago (he had a heart attack) and it brings me bad memories and that's the reason I want to sell it a.s.a.p. No damage or hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained... I have a clear title, without liens or loans on it, under my name. Me and my son decided to sell the house and we moved to my parents house in Twin Falls, ID trying to start a new life. We need to meet up to my parents place or I can arrange delivery - it will cost the gas money.

I want to use eBay Motors services (5 days of testing prior purchase) for the safety of both of us so if you’re interested in purchasing, please provide me your full name for the bill of sale, your full address and a phone number so I can notify eBay that you're selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.

I look forward to hear from you!

Thanks!

P.S. I have attached the pics to the email, the specs are below:

1930 Ford Model A Deluxe Coupe

This Coupe is all steel with recent yellow paint and black trim. Like new tires on yellow wire wheels. This Ford starts and drives like any conventional car with 3 speed floor shift. Bright work is not show but very presentable. Interior is correct Lebonny rib-cord with black leatherette in rumble seat. Engine recently serviced and totally detailed with alternator upgrade. Runs and drives as new - very dependable.

Rumble Seat
Rear Mount Spare
Seat Belts
Directionals
Dual Cowl Lights
Chrome Eyebrows
Spartan Horn
Dual Step Plates
Dual Tail Lights
6 Volt Alternator (upgrade)
Upgrade Shocks

[Crankster]

Scam

[SeaSlugs]

http://pages.motors.ebay.com/buy/security/

fits alot of what they warn about. My guess is once they get you hooked they want you to send them money for gas to get there for you to look at it, promising to use ebay protection, big hurry to sell, price well below normal - too many flags...

[mhsprecher]

I agree. The way the ad is written has many red flags, as others have noted. The casual introduction, the personal information (too many memories, death from heart attack, etc) all scream scam to me. The internet has made scams so much easier, unfortunately.

[johnneilson]

Have seen a few scams on Craigslist and EPay.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

this is how to report scams, it helps track down the perps.

J

[1930-Pickup]

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Scam.

Most woman don't know this much about cars and transfers.
You don't need ebay to be safe.
She doesn't need your info to give to ebay.

Buyer beware. Buy in person only.

[Domino]

Great Big Huge Lab Rat - kill it

[History]

The description of the car is from someone in the know. Most women do not know to use words like (bright work) to describe chrome. What's the odds she did? Very low imo.

Originally Posted by 1930-Pickup

Scam.

Most woman don't know this much about cars and transfers.
You don't need ebay to be safe.
She doesn't need your info to give to ebay.

Buyer beware. Buy in person only.

[mike657894]

scam. I see rufusranch.com's cars show up on detroit craigslist. he is in minesotta. report away. if its legit they will repost.

[flatford39]

This exact scam has been going all around the country recently. The car may exist but believe me the seller in this case does not have possession of it.

You can play with them for awhile. tell them you have a relative nearby that wants to see the car in person. The excuses will start flowing like water at Niagra Falls.

[1930-Pickup]

I say Barners unite and meet him in person...

[jimalabam]

If you can get a photo of the seller, You will see he is probably six feet tall...

[GPierce]

I answered an ad like that once for a car hauler. Almost exact wording other than the discription. Wanted me to deposit money in an their escrow account that would be released after they delivered the trailer and I found it be as advertised. I am sure there was no trailer. The alarm bell went off because of the personal information request.

[mike657894]

Scams we should all be aware of: they send a check for too much , Microsoft calls you to fix your computer. Nigerian prince gold emails. Someone requesting money for a relative of yours in distress.

[Standing Elk]

Maybe we could give a little payback. The ad is on the Seattle Craigs List site and the post id: is 6371482875. Check it out, click the reply button and ask for additional details then see the response the seller will send.

[Bob C]

I don't see anything like what you posted in ad 6371482875.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/c...371482875.html

Bob

[Standing Elk]

I posted the response sent to me by the seller when I asked for more pictures and some additional information. Click the reply button and ask for some additional information and pictures then you will see what I am getting at.

[Hoop]

( ... !)

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...a/1990073.html

[Standing Elk]

Hoop, that pretty much cinches it doesn't it.

[Dodge]

I'm in California and can smell that Rat from here, sure stinks.

[todd3131]

We should respond with this:

I would like to buy your car for 500.00 more than asking, please take it off
craigs list and give me your contact information and I will have a certified check sent to you right away. I will have my transportation company contact you for
shipping


This is the response I got seven times to my last craigslist add for a used
furnace. I responded that they can come and get it for free and if they like
it they can give me what ever was fair for it or another one was if you need
it that bad I can give it to you I don't need the money that bad. This was following a few email about certified checks and the what not. I didn't have
any responses after I said they can have it for free.

[rowens55]

What a bunch o sinical fellas. I already sent a check for the full amount. I expect to recieve it by weeks end. It will be a flip for me. Will take $8000. Please send me a certified check, MO, cash. Will send the car to you promptly.

If you believe this add, you should believe that one. Stinks out loud!! Run for the hills!!!

[Trukluvr]

This person uses more than just model A's. There was an ad for a 50's pickup in NY with very similar text. I contacted them, and they wanted me to send a certified check deposit to an address in GA. of course I didn't do it, but it is an ongoing scam. I reported them, but nothing happened. It was listed in Albany, NY

[old31]

I agree with 1930 in his comment.

This smells like a big fat 2 legged rat.

[kd4lok]

Agreed. I was recently ready to buy a 3910 Ford tractor at a very low price from Craigslist. Similar scenario: Woman's husband died, selling out and moving to OK to live with mother. Sounded good until the EBay story was announced and I finally wised up to the scam. "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".

[zzlegend]

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Funny. Standing Elk, I saw this today on craigslist and had to find out more. Here was the reply. Sound familiar?

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/...393993065.html

Hi,

I'm selling it at this price of $6,000 because my husband died 2 months ago and it brings me bad memories and that's the reason I want to sell it asap. No damage or hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained. I have a clear title, without liens or loans on it. Me and my son decided to sell the house and we moved to my parents house in Eagle Point, OR trying to start a new life.

I want to use eBay Motors services (5 days of testing prior purchase) for the safety of both of us so if you’re interested in purchasing, please provide me your full name for the bill of sale, your delivery address and a phone number so I can notify eBay that you're selected as my possible buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure. I look forward to hear from you. Thanks!

P.S. I have attached the pics to the email, the specs are below:

Body Type : Roadster
Miles : 18,040
Transmission : Manual
Drive Type : RWD
Exterior Color : Green
Interior Color : Black
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Title : Clear

1928 Ford Model A roadster truck, very good condition, runs and drives great. Has a great running flathead 4 cylinder, 4 row radiator, '39 Ford 3 speed transmission (synchronized gears and no double clutching), '48 Ford hydraulic brakes,mustang dual master brake cylinder, '31 steering box, 12 volt alternator with 12 volt headlights,turn signals,and LED tail lights. Wheels are '35 Ford V8 wire wheels,with 16" radial tires. Front & rear end rebuilt recently, with all new bushings & bearings. Has accessory temp,volt & amp gauges. New battery, new brakes, engine starts with the push of a button and is running fantastic, nice and clean interior, nice and very clean underneath, no rust at all, super clean engine compartment, always garaged and never seen any rain.

[Railcarmover]

like a fillipino pimp once told me.. "you pay your money, you take your chances"...just remember, it's takes greed to be hustled...the scammer relys on your greed to close the deal

[redmodelt]

Same wording only Model T;
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...tml?1511319050

[mike657894]

add these two to the list of scams.

model a
https://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/...393483194.html

model T
https://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/...379748686.html

edit:
the T add is referenced in the mafca posting from the post above.

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by Domino

Great Big Huge Lab Rat - kill it

Yes a Big Ole Lab Rat on Crack

[JDupuis]

I have the deed to some property I bought on Jupiter. Am willing to hold the mortgage if anyone is interested. . Jeff

[chap52]

I once told a bogus buyer that we would have to get the bill of sale notarized. My wife is a notary and we can meet at her office to get it done. She works at the local Police Station.
He never got back with me...huh!

[Kahuna]

Damn you Rowen. I wanted to buy that.
Ok, ok, I'll get the $8000.oo tomorrow.
Just drive it over to my house, I'll give
you the money & a ride home.
That way you'll be able to finish the 55 Crown
Jim

[rowens55]

Originally Posted by Kahuna

Damn you Rowen. I wanted to buy that.
Ok, ok, I'll get the $8000.oo tomorrow.
Just drive it over to my house, I'll give
you the money & a ride home.
That way you'll be able to finish the 55 Crown
Jim

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Yup, that's just what it'll take too!! Happy Thanksgiving Jim! I plan on givin you a call soon. Hope all is well with you!

[Bob Johnson]

Here is another one.
https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/...400698751.html

[RUNNERBUN]

And here it is advertised elsewhere.
http://classiccarsexport.com/ford/44...er-pickup.html
Is it possible that this listing is genuine and that the listing on the stockton craigslist is the fake with the information and picture lifted off the genuine listing. Either way it is Buyer beware.

[RUNNERBUN]

And here it is once more.
http://oscarmotorcars.com/ford-listi...er-pickup.html

[zzlegend]

I see it is now listed here on the Barn classified adds. Perhaps the real owner this time.

[tiger.1000]

Ten years ago I bought an antique clock on Ebay here in the UK. A couple of years back I decided to research the maker's name. There, lo and behold was my clock listed on Craigslist in the UK, Canada and somewhere in Scotland....the mind boggles

[mike657894]

another 6000$ model A. with only one picture.
https://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/d...402417964.html

[rbullockv8]

No wife whose husband died 2 months ago begins an add with "Hey,"--unless she had something to do with his demise. :-)

[Tom Foster]

It surprised me that they're using the name of a real auto museum, which could bring legal action against the seller , if he could be found.
I think the FBI probably has a big stack of these sort of things.

[JJASON]

That's my 28 roadster pk,with dark green and black fenders. I put that on Craig list a few months ago,I have taken it off that site some time ago. I am in Iowa,truck is in Iowa,you can see the front license plate is Iowa.Never again am I going to put it on Craig list.

[1955cj5]

Originally Posted by JJASON

That's my 28 roadster pk,with dark green and black fenders. I put that on Craig list a few months ago,I have taken it off that site some time ago. I am in Iowa,truck is in Iowa,you can see the front license plate is Iowa.Never again am I going to put it on Craig list.

It's back!!

https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/d/1...407919109.html



.

[RUNNERBUN]

Originally Posted by 1955cj5

It's back!!

https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/d/1...407919109.html



.

With a bit of luck this RAT will be caught in a trap very shortly.

[Fred S]

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I saw I nice Model A on Ebay. One picture showed the car with a cornfield in the background. i drove to see the car. About 3 days later, I saw the same picture on a Model A's for sale website. It had moved to a different city with different contact information, and the price was a steal.

[Kustom Komet]

Gee, she sure had a lot of husbands who died of heart attacks. Of all the rotten luck.

[jim1932]

That Roadster pickup ad showed up locally a month. Request for info got the the husband died email as mentioned earlier and lots of photos of a model a coupe.....

[Tom Wesenberg]

I replied to the $6500 Roadster, and here is the reply:

send me your e-mail address and I will contact you later with more details and photos. thanks



On 12/6/2017 06:49, Tom Wesenberg wrote:

Hi, Please send me an address where I can pick up this Roadster. I have the cash, and this looks like a good deal. What has been done to it mechanically? Thanks, Tom

[zzlegend]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I replied to the $6500 Roadster, and here is the reply:

send me your e-mail address and I will contact you later with more details and photos. thanks



On 12/6/2017 06:49, Tom Wesenberg wrote:

Hi, Please send me an address where I can pick up this Roadster. I have the cash, and this looks like a good deal. What has been done to it mechanically? Thanks, Tom

I replied to the 28 roadster pickup and got the same reply Tom.

send me your e-mail address and I will contact you later with more details and photos. thanks

I did reply and then got the rambling husband died, me and son moving, I will use ebay so we are both safe, EMAIL. ETC. How did they get all these "A"'s and "T"s', to Nigeria? Go figure.

[pookie55]

Just last week I responded to an add for a 1941 Cadillac fleetwood in really good condition, that was listed in our local craigslist. I did think the asking price was a bit low but decided to send e-mail and go look at car. I too got the response to; send me your e-mail address and i will contact you later with more pictures of car. I reply with; I already sent you my e-mail when I responded to the add, for more pic's and location to view car in person.. they never got back to me so i flagged the add on craigslist

[SSsssteamer]

Too good to be true? Another super deal on Craig's list. 1929 Tudor. Same $6,000 price tag. Find at: https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/d...419291559.html

[FordTudor1931]

This is an easy one. An older lady would never say or write "Me and my son". She would phrase it "My son and I" which would be the correct grammar!

[Kustom Komet]

I have a set of Mustang wheels on Craigslist right now. As always, when I put something up there, I get a rash of emails and texts all worded about the same:

"Hello...I'm interested in the said price of the item ( ) and would you accept a check as payment once it clears your bank then I will have someone to pick up?"

Another:

"I'm interested, Can I send a cashiers check for the sale, Once check clears and you have your cash I will arrange pickup."

Obviously scamma lamma ding dongs. But how does this scam work? If the check clears, it clears, so how do they rip anyone off? Do they beg to take the goods before it clears?

[oldforder]

The thing is with cashiers checks, how long are you going to wait till you know that the check is really good? A week, a month, 6 weeks. I have heard that sometimes it takes a LONG time before they find out that the check is counterfeit.

[Kustom Komet]

From Craigslist:

Avoiding Scams

Deal locally, face-to-face —follow this one rule and avoid 99% of scam attempts.

• Do not extend payment to anyone you have not met in person.
• Beware offers involving shipping - deal with locals you can meet in person.
• Never wire funds (e.g. Western Union) - anyone who asks you to is a scammer.
• Don't accept cashier/certified checks or money orders - banks cash fakes, then hold you responsible.
• Transactions are between users only, no third party provides a "guarantee".
• Never give out financial info (bank account, social security, paypal account, etc).
• Do not rent or purchase sight-unseen—that amazing "deal" may not exist.
• Refuse background/credit checks until you have met landlord/employer in person.

Answer: Forgeries. I suppose that was predictable.

[aermotor]

In our area for safety's sake, local police and fire departments recommend completing the transaction at their headquarters. Also scares most scammers off.

John

[jim1932]

Most people confuse when cash is available to you in your account with when the funds can be pulled back. People deposit the item, then see the cash in their account and send the item a week later it bounces. These almost always end up with them sending too much money to cover shipping and postage and asking you to send the excess back. They are usually a lot more interested in playing the cash game than actually getting your parts.

[boatbob2]

I sold a cross ram manifold,with new carbs,that was for a SBC,The person sent me a cashiers check,I took it to my bank,The bank phoned his bank,the check was good,So i sent him the parts,your bank can/will call the check senders bank to ascertain if the check is good.

[Kohnke Rebabbitting]

Scam !!!!!!

[28Ca8149]

Ask her if the wish bone is broken. ha ha

[SeaSlugs]

Originally Posted by aermotor

In our area for safety's sake, local police and fire departments recommend completing the transaction at their headquarters. Also scares most scammers off.

John

it always amazes me and scares me how quick they blow into the wind when you mention meeting at the police station or i use a local gas station on a busy road where the state, city, and county cops hang out and get their coffees. Once you mention the fact there is a high police prescience they seem to blow away into the wind... legit people wont be scared and should prefer to meet in those places. Biggest rule is do not give any hints on where you live nor have them come to your house.