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mike657894 · 11-16-2015, 09:58 AM

I have a 1930 fordor A. the rear hood bracket is the deluxe style. This could be a replacement. What things made the deluxe different from the standard?

Tom Wesenberg · 11-16-2015, 10:23 AM

The black flat front bumper makes it the "custom" trim line.

mike657894 · 11-16-2015, 10:27 AM

in the 70s they were painted silver. the chrome is under there but very badly damaged. the bumpers are on the replace list when the money comes around.

mike657894 · 11-16-2015, 10:28 AM

also the radiator trim is stainless. not sure if that is an original part but it was there in 76 when grandpa bought it.

burner31 · 11-16-2015, 10:50 AM

No cowl lights...clue one
170-B

Check the link below, it may help:

http://www.gwcmodela.org/bodyphotos.asp

Tom Wesenberg · 11-16-2015, 11:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike657894

also the radiator trim is stainless. not sure if that is an original part but it was there in 76 when grandpa bought it.

Stainless is correct for the 1930-1 Model A radiator shells and headlamps. Too bad it didn't have stainless for the first two years. It could have saved me a lot of money to have mine replated, which hasn't been done yet.

Kevin in NJ · 11-16-2015, 12:40 PM

The stainless rear hood bracket was just used in production for all cars. If your car has it, then it was just your lucky day.

BUT

Is it original? I know my brothers coupe done in about 1970 has a repro stainless.

The lack of cowl lights means standard.

mike657894 · 11-16-2015, 12:51 PM

thanks guys. not sure how to tell if anything is original. but most the stuff on the car is damaged this way or that way which says to me its probably original. . the raditatior shell is ripped at the crank hole. but im not going for a perfect show car. just making a driver out of long sat good buy.

Mike V. Florida · 11-17-2015, 02:17 AM

Pick up a copy of the restoration guidelines it has a wealth of information in it. I'll tell you what, if you buy it and you feel it is not worth your +-25.00 bucks I buy it from you.

Tom Wesenberg · 11-17-2015, 07:15 AM

The Town Sedan would also have woodgrained interior trim.

Brianfrench65 · 11-17-2015, 08:29 AM

155D Town Sedan would also have fancy escutcheons around the door handles, and the window cranks. Also the fancy wood grain garnish moldings under the window trim. Also the door pulls (on the door trim) are bright and not painted.

mike657894 · 11-17-2015, 01:47 PM

the yellow was a wheel color choice of the first resto. I have gone with black. I found some red paint in the mix on at least one wheel. found some of the original darker green on the body. I originally painted the car sparkly navy blue but i took a step back and got a cheap quart of omni green mix up at a local paint shop and a quart of black(as i spent my money on the blue) and shot it over the blue.

Charlie Stephens · 11-17-2015, 02:53 PM

I would like to emphasize what Keith said. Cowl lights. If there are no cowl lights and no indication that there were ever any (repaired/patched) holes, the car started its life as a standard. The dealers could have added cowl lights to a standard confusing the issue a little but if there are none and never were it started life as a standard.

Charlie Stephens

TerryH · 11-17-2015, 07:57 PM

Town Sedans also had that folding center armrest in the rear seat, rear window and quarter windows blinds. But the cowl lights and the door trim are the big giveaways.

11-16-2015, 09:58 AM	#1
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard I have a 1930 fordor A. the rear hood bracket is the deluxe style. This could be a replacement. What things made the deluxe different from the standard?

11-16-2015, 10:23 AM	#2
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard The black flat front bumper makes it the "custom" trim line.

11-16-2015, 10:27 AM	#3
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard in the 70s they were painted silver. the chrome is under there but very badly damaged. the bumpers are on the replace list when the money comes around.

11-16-2015, 10:28 AM	#4
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard also the radiator trim is stainless. not sure if that is an original part but it was there in 76 when grandpa bought it.

11-16-2015, 10:50 AM	#5
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard No cowl lights...clue one 170-B Check the link below, it may help: http://www.gwcmodela.org/bodyphotos.asp __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B Last edited by burner31; 11-16-2015 at 10:57 AM.

11-16-2015, 12:40 PM	#7
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard The stainless rear hood bracket was just used in production for all cars. If your car has it, then it was just your lucky day. BUT Is it original? I know my brothers coupe done in about 1970 has a repro stainless. The lack of cowl lights means standard.

11-16-2015, 12:51 PM	#8
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard thanks guys. not sure how to tell if anything is original. but most the stuff on the car is damaged this way or that way which says to me its probably original. . the raditatior shell is ripped at the crank hole. but im not going for a perfect show car. just making a driver out of long sat good buy.

11-17-2015, 02:17 AM	#9
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard Pick up a copy of the restoration guidelines it has a wealth of information in it. I'll tell you what, if you buy it and you feel it is not worth your +-25.00 bucks I buy it from you. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

11-17-2015, 07:15 AM	#10
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard The Town Sedan would also have woodgrained interior trim.

11-17-2015, 08:29 AM	#11
Brianfrench65 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Freetown, Massachusetts Posts: 511	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard 155D Town Sedan would also have fancy escutcheons around the door handles, and the window cranks. Also the fancy wood grain garnish moldings under the window trim. Also the door pulls (on the door trim) are bright and not painted. __________________ Brian French; 1930 Briggs Town Sedan

11-17-2015, 01:47 PM	#12
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard the yellow was a wheel color choice of the first resto. I have gone with black. I found some red paint in the mix on at least one wheel. found some of the original darker green on the body. I originally painted the car sparkly navy blue but i took a step back and got a cheap quart of omni green mix up at a local paint shop and a quart of black(as i spent my money on the blue) and shot it over the blue.

11-17-2015, 02:53 PM	#13
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,033	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard I would like to emphasize what Keith said. Cowl lights. If there are no cowl lights and no indication that there were ever any (repaired/patched) holes, the car started its life as a standard. The dealers could have added cowl lights to a standard confusing the issue a little but if there are none and never were it started life as a standard. Charlie Stephens

11-17-2015, 07:57 PM	#14
TerryH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fountain Valley, Calif. Posts: 937	Re: how to tell if my fordor is deluxe or standard Town Sedans also had that folding center armrest in the rear seat, rear window and quarter windows blinds. But the cowl lights and the door trim are the big giveaways.