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Old 05-07-2017, 05:31 PM   #1
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Where have all the 1961 Fords disappeared to? While you see plenty of 61 Chevs, you hardly see any 61 Fords. In my view, they are great looking cars. The top three photos were taken in the USA, while the bottom photo was taken in Australia. This year Ford was never sold in Australia, as Ford Australia was still selling the 59 Fords with updated 59 Meteor Grilles and Trim as 61 models. Then, for 1962, Ford Australia only offered the "intermediate" 1962 Ford Fairlane 500, but no full sized Fords.
Where have all the 61 Fords disappeared to?
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Old 05-07-2017, 06:52 PM   #2
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Good question ! I hardly see any around my area , and when I do they are beaters .
I think they are a good looking car , and I like '62s also . Don't see many of them , either .
I sure would love me a '60 or '61 Starliner !
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It would be legitimate to ask that same question about many of the '50's & '60's Fords. They are gone. Last time I saw a '60 or 61 full size Ford around here was in the early 1970's.
There was one old man around here who bought a 1957 Ford Fairlane 4-dr hardtop brand new and was still driving it until he died in the early 1980's, but by then the car was half rusted away to nothing. Folks around here don't keep a car if it comes to needing major service work. They junk it and go out and buy a ten year old used car to replace it.
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I've had a 61 Starliner for about a year now. Made a deal over on the HAMB for my 38 Ford deluxe and some $$ for it. It has some problems but it's not rusted. I can deal with any mechanical issues but I know enough about body work to be dangerous. Great running and driving car. 406, 3x2's & 4sp. Gets plenty of looks and there's only one other Starliner in town.
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There are two 61's here in Melbourne Fl. Both black. One Starliner (has three deuces) and one Sunliner. Very nice restored drivers. Both belong to a friend and Ford/Merc. collector. Both have been in my shop lately. Maybe the owner would part with one? I would be happy to pass your contact info to him.
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Here is a few photos of my father and my '61 Fords. My fathers is the red Starliner. He has owned this car since 1986 and bought an identical one to it new in 1961 when he was 19.

The mint green Fairlane is mine. We just finished a body off complete restoration of this car. It is built as if it was a NHRA legal Optional Super Stock car from 1961. It took "Best of Show" honors two weeks ago at the 2017 FE Race & Reunion.

Both cars are 390-401 "Hipo" cars.

I'm now on the hunt for a 1961 station wagon. I'd like to find one in "driver" condition.
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Here is a few photos of my father and my '61 Fords. My fathers is the red Starliner. He has owned this car since 1986 and bought an identical one to it new in 1961 when he was 19.

The mint green Fairlane is mine. We just finished a body off complete restoration of this car. It is built as if it was a NHRA legal Optional Super Stock car from 1961. It took "Best of Show" honors two weeks ago at the 2017 FE Race & Reunion.

Both cars are 390-401 "Hipo" cars.

I'm now on the hunt for a 1961 station wagon. I'd like to find one in "driver" condition.
What are your strip times, if I may ask?
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I have a 63 500 XL convertible 427 and there aren't any others in Las Vegas that I know of.A 63 1/2 427 SOHC showed up at our sunday morning get togethers.
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We didn't race, yet.... The photo of us on the starting line was just a photo op. The one of the rear of the car was me driving down the track on a "parade" lap when the awards were given out. Dad has gone 13.30s with his Starliner with the stock 390-401 several years ago. He put a stout 428 in it a few years ago and went a 12.02. He now has the 390-401 back in the car.
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What a great photo of two 1961 Fords racing each other. Thanks for sharing.
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We didn't race, yet.... The photo of us on the starting line was just a photo op. The one of the rear of the car was me driving down the track on a "parade" lap when the awards were given out. Dad has gone 13.30s with his Starliner with the stock 390-401 several years ago. He put a stout 428 in it a few years ago and went a 12.02. He now has the 390-401 back in the car.
I should have looked closer and noticed the windows are down. Evidence that it is a staged photo. Thanks for sharing!
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there is 4 1960 ford Strarliner on Craiglist IN MINN you have to buy all 4 not in the best of shape
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I'd trade anything out of my fleet for a Starliner. Haven't owned a 61 or a 63 big Ford yet.
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A mate of mine bought this 1961 Ford Starliner which had been imported into Australia. He made arrangements to have the car road transported north to his home. Enroute, someone decided to take a look at the engine, but didn't close the hood properly. As a consequence, it flew open completely ruining it and smashing the windshield. He had a spare hood from a 62 Ford which he fitted, as can be seen in this picture. The windshield is a different proposition altogether, as it is unique to just the 1960 and 1961 Ford Starliner, and the 1960 Edsel 2 door hardtop. They are extremely rare and hard to find.
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There is a really nice blue 61 Ford Tudor, 292 and fordamatic today on the Hemmings site.
Worth taking a look at.
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Here are some more pictures of my mates 61 Starliner. Just waiting patiently to be restored.
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That is a very nice 1961 Ford Fairlane 500 2 door sedan that Six Volt mentioned in his Post that is advertised in Hemmings.
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Old 05-11-2017, 12:44 AM   #19
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Back in the early '70s my neighbor had a '61 two door but not a Starliner. He had raced it in New York. He moved to Calif. and got married. Took the 406 out of it and replaced it with a 352 but kept the 4 speed . His wife would drive it everywhere, her DD. In the late '80s he offered it to me along with the 406 and some other parts for $1500.00. Being a Chevy guy at the time, I didn't want it. I could kick myself in the rear a hundred times for not buying that car.
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What a difference a year makes! '60 Fords were ugly, ugly, ugly, in direct contrast to the '61's! Even the Starliner roof couldn't help the looks of a '60 model. (JJust my opinion)
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Purchased my 61 hardtop about 5 years ago from a fellow that was being put in old age home. 352, auto trans, P/S, P/B. White with red interior. Has only 68,000 original miles.
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Parklane, How about a pictures of your 61 Ford?
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What a difference a year makes! '60 Fords were ugly, ugly, ugly, in direct contrast to the '61's! Even the Starliner roof couldn't help the looks of a '60 model. (JJust my opinion)
I wouldn't trade an ugly Ford for any C**vy. My first car was an ugly '60 Ford (sarcasm intended). Yup, my opinion as well.

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What a difference a year makes! '60 Fords were ugly, ugly, ugly, in direct contrast to the '61's! Even the Starliner roof couldn't help the looks of a '60 model. (JJust my opinion)
Well I thought the 60 starliners and sunliners were beautiful.I love the profile,if you'll will notice the side mldg.is a few inches below the belt line making the car seem lower.
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I was never a big fan of 59,60 or 61 styling. Gotta love any starliner. It seemed like for several years Ford was kinda confused on whether a 2 door should be a hardtop or a post. No guessing when it's a starliner. 59 is still probably my least favorite big Ford in the 55-67 years.
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My first car at 16 was a '62 Galaxie 500. I like the '59 '60 '61 but there aren't very many surviving it seems. So..... I ended up with a '59 Edsel =]
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For some reason I can't get the pic to upload. Will try again tomorrow.
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I spotted this imported 1961 Ford Galaxie Sunliner at a local Swap Meet - Car Show over 10 years ago, and have never seen it since. I only ever saw it once and then it disappeared.
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Another neat 1961 Ford Starliner.
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Have a friend that is doing a total restoration on a '61 convertible. Beautiful yellow. It's for sale. No idea what he will be asking for it, but I can tell you that he has done several '60 and '61 Starliners and Sunliners; all beautiful cars. He really knows how to do them. If interested, I can get you in touch with him.
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I rebuilt a 61 starliner in Australia in 1990/91.I bought the car in New mexico.
I sold it to move to the US.
Since then I,ve had 4 more 61 Starliners and a 61 wagon.i currently own a 62 wagon but would have another 61 starliner in a heartbeat
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Had a 62 Sunliner, kind of a running basket case when I got it but nice paint and interior. I was up under the dash and there was a rust hole on each side in the air vent plenum about the size of a bowling ball. Also rusted down where the top anchors under the rear window. Major surgery. Sold it. Got a nice low miles 64 Custom 300 and checked it right away. The rubber drain flappers were plugged and about a bushel of acorns in there but I caught it before it rusted out.
Moral of story, If you have or are buying one of these years of car, check that, it's a crappy design.
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Steve, Your 1961 Ford Starliner was a nice looking car. I can understand why you miss owning it now.
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What a difference a year makes! '60 Fords were ugly, ugly, ugly, in direct contrast to the '61's!
I always thought the same thing and what's funny is looking at only the side of the '60 is pretty much like looking at a '61, but ughhh that front and back end of the '60 turns me off. They really improved it greatly in '61.
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Here are some pictures of another 1961 Ford Starliner I saw in Michigan. I would not like to take this one on in a race, as it looks mighty tough. It would appear that out of all the body styles Ford offered in 1961, the Starliner is the most sort after, making it even more popular than the Sunliner convertible. Am I correct in my assumption?
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My '59 came up and I had to have it since the body was clean as a whistle. I like the '57 and '61 better and did have a '64 or 3. It was missing a lot of parts which opened the door for me to do what I wanted with it. I still have my eyes open for a '61 locally.
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Here is yet another 1961 Ford Starliner that has found its way to Australia. This photo was sent to me by my friend in Sydney. It is similar in colour to the one that Steve Posted, but the interior is a different colour. These Starliners sure seem to be very desirable cars, and by looking at them, you can see why they are popular.
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That is my old car.
The idiot I sold it to tore out all the tuck and roll and put a stock interior in it.
I hate selling stuff and seeing what people do to the cars to make it their own
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Steve, After I Posted the picture, I got to thinking that it could be the same car, as they are both Right Hand Drive and the same colour. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Like the thread on 60 Fords, there were a number of 61's at Carlisle, including a few Starliners, two of which were really done up nice
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Check out this original promotional shot of the new 1961 Ford Country Squire. These are great looking Wagons.
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Even the more economical wagons like this 1961 Ford Country Sedan look great. Check out this beauty.
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For those Ford Barners that collect model cars, Dinky Toys of England made this 1961 Ford Fairlane many years ago. While it is a two door sedan, I think that it was modelled from a four door model, judging by the length of the front doors. It would appear that the model maker simply deleted the outline of the rear door to achieve a two door of this model. Other than that, it is quite a nice model of an unusual car. It is also available as a Police Car. Dinky numbered all their Police Cars 258, so it is obvious that the wrong Box is pictured under the 61 Ford Police Car.
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Herman Munster posted a picture of a rare 1961 Meteor. This is the Cover from the original sales Brochure for these cars. If you want to check out more on old Brochures, check out this great site and add it to your Favorites. This site will entertain and educate you for hours.

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Back to the top for the 1961's......good looking cars


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I need some engine compartment measurements.I have an FE Ford with an early 2x4 Edelbrock intake manifold. Carter AFB carbs. I do not have the hood or fenders on yet but I am trying to figure out what to run for air cleaners. Things look tight especially for the front carb. To get an idea how much room I have to play with if anyone has any idea how much space is between the hood and the water tank that would help. Has anyone else gone through this and if so what did you use for filters. There's nothing like sticking a carb. stud through a freshly painted hood. Manifold is a Edelbrock F-262 and carbs. are early Carter AFB 4 1/4 air horn.



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The yellow Galaxie above is a very nice looking car.

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Very nice - love it. These are great looking cars. Thanks for posting.
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Found this picture of this weathered 1961 Ford Galaxie 2 door hardtop. I like the styling of the 61 Fords. Just a pity that there are not more of them around?
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This is a picture of both of my 1961 models. They both look great and run excellent!
1961 is my favorite year too!

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The smaller of the two looks more like a 1990 model.


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This is a picture of both of my 1961 models. They both look great and run excellent!
1961 is my favorite year too!

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The Black and Chrome one Is a very great looking model.
The Aqua and Blonde one is even a greater looking model tho.












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Rich, Here is a larger picture of your pair of 1961 models. Very nice. Regards Mercman <><
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Here is a video clip of a 1961 Ford Starliner - nice.

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Bill Squires from Bill's Auto Works posted this picture of a 1961 Ford Starliner he saw at Hot August Nights in Reno
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I agree with “Merchman from oz” that their aren’t many 61 Fords around, they are a favorite of mine too. But because they are scarce, whenever one does show up somewhere they always draw an admiring crowd. It’s always the first car I go look at.
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Is it just me? ...but I prefer the rear windscreen of the Fairlane over the other models. It is one massive piece of glass
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Brian, This is the rear window treatment that you prefer. 1961 Ford Fairlane. Regards Mercman <><
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I can see 1961's getting thin, but thats 57 yrs ago, but now Crown Vics vanished. Talk
about rich kids something 2yrs old is a antique to them. Town Cars & Mercurys ain't seen one go by here for can't remember. I drove a square tail light Crown Vic hitting 300,000
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It seems like John F Kennedy liked 1961 Fords, as can be seen in this old photograph.
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I can see 1961's getting thin, but thats 57 yrs ago, but now Crown Vics vanished. Talk
about rich kids something 2yrs old is a antique to them. Town Cars & Mercurys ain't seen one go by here for can't remember. I drove a square tail light Crown Vic hitting 300,000
miles (police dept.) never had brake job, never had timing chain nothing. Chief sent my
to Boston for a new one. I tried to buy my cruiser, no way dealer= going to paint it yellow
NYC taxi cab thats where they all went.

I have an '01 Crown Vic Police Interceptor as my DD. 213K and still runs and drives great. I've done very little to it in the 50K miles I've owned it.
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It seems like John F Kennedy liked 1961 Fords, as can be seen in this old photograph.
Great pic, had never seen that one.
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1961 Ford Galaxie Sedan wearing 1959 Ford Wheel Covers.
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Great period picture of a 1961 Ford Galaxie 4 door hardtop. Another 61 Galaxie is on the left of this picture.
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Nice 1961 Ford Starliner at Goodguys, Scottsdale, Arizona.
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This Thread is titled "1961 Fords - Where have they all gone?" Well, this picture shows five of them, including a very rare two door station wagon. The Sunliner Convertible looks to be past saving, but the others don't seem too bad. This lineup was taken in Albuquerque New Mexico a few years back, so it would appear that these too have been lost forever? Too bad, as 1961 Fords are a good looking car.
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This Thread is titled "1961 Fords - Where have they all gone?" Well, this picture shows five of them, including a very rare two door station wagon. The Sunliner Convertible looks to be past saving, but the others don't seem too bad. This lineup was taken in Albuquerque New Mexico a few years back, so it would appear that these too have been lost forever? Too bad, as 1961 Fords are a good looking car.
mercman, If there's a chance this place and the cars still exist it may not be too far from me.
I could go take a look (if I knew where it was).
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mercman, If there's a chance this place and the cars still exist it may not be too far from me.
I could go take a look (if I knew where it was).
just fyi...
I called this yard today, it's about an hour away from me. The wagon, convertible and at least one other '61 are still there. The owner said the convertible had been 'T-boned" and most likely wasn't saveable. The wagon (missing its tailgate) and one other still there were bought by yard employees but the owner didn't know if they might be available anyway.
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With a bit of work, that 1961 Ford 2-door Ranch Wagon in that Albuquerque Wrecking Yard could look like this?
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I hope not - hate those rubber band tires.


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I am with you there. I dislike these late oversize wheels on any car. Give me the standard wheel with either the dog dish hubcap or original full wheel trims.
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These are the correct 1961 Ford Galaxie full wheel trims. They are very nice looking wheel trims.
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Have a look at this beauty, 1961 Ford Sunliner. There is pale Yellow one parked next to this Red one. They are great looking cars.
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This beauty is shown on the Old Car Manual Project Brochure Site for 1961 Fords. If you want to check out a Brochure on a particular make and model, chances are that one is shown on this great Web Site. They are not available for sale, but can be viewed page by page for free. If you have a Brochure on a car or model that is not shown, I know that they would be happy to receive scans of it, so that it can be included. In the meantime, check out this great site by clicking onto this Link. http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/
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Another 1961 Ford Starliner that has made its way to Australia. They sure are good looking cars.
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Here is a great shot of a 1961 Ford Country Sedan parked between 1958 and 1959 Fords. The black sedan in the background is a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500.
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Neat picture taken for promotional purposes of the new 1961 Ford Country Squire. These are great looking wagons.
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Another neat 1961 Ford Galaxie Sunliner Convertible. These 1961 Fords are great looking cars.
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Very nice looking car, a 1961 Ford Galaxie Town Sedan. Records show that Ford built 141,823 of these 4 door sedans, and it seems that they have all disappeared?
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Field of Dreams. Back in 1961, there were plenty of 1961 Ford Falcons, Fairlanes and Galaxies as this picture shows. It must have been early in the model year, as I can spot quite a few previous model 1960 Ford Thunderbirds in different rows. It also appears that they are all painted the same colour. Where have they all disappeared to?
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A large number of '61 & others in the era were lost to demolition derbies in the 1970s & even the 80s. Their value was rock bottom during that time unless it was a well preserved convertible or 2 door hardtop.
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Field of Dreams. Back in 1961, there were plenty of 1961 Ford Falcons, Fairlanes and Galaxies as this picture shows. It must have been early in the model year, as I can spot quite a few previous model 1960 Ford Thunderbirds in different rows. It also appears that they are all painted the same colour. Where have they all disappeared to?
Ford had a publicity stunt in which all the residents in some small town (I think in Indiana or somewhere in the upper midwest) were given a Ford product to drive for either a week or a month. It must have been in the late summer-early fall of '60 when they did this as the T-birds in the photo are '60's and not '61s - they were introduced very late in the season, i.e. November '60. I know there's more info on the promotion but I don't have it handy.
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I can see at least two '61 Starliners in the mix too.

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I can see at least two '61 Starliners in the mix too.

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Sal, I finally found the second one after blinking about 50 times.
Then after giving my eyes a rest for a few minuets, I found a 3rd
Starliner about 3 rows up from #2, and about 3 inches to the right.

Now, i'm going to go find my bottle of Vizine eye drops.





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Remember in the early & mid 60s when Ford used to have its annual White Sale. I recollect seeing many huge billboards advertising the event in late summer during those years.
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I reckon that I found 4 Starliners in this picture. I tried to mark them with a red X.
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Good eye Lanny and mercman ! That's enough to make you go blind.

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See the USA in your 1961 Ford Ranch Wagon.
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1961 Ford Galaxie Starliner that has just hit the road in my home town. Nice.
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Classing looking young lady posing in a classy new 1961 Ford Sunliner Convertible.
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I spotted this really nice '61 Starliner at a local show back in March (pre-corona) and couldn't help but do a walk around. Very rarely see any '61's as many others have noted — much less a Starliner. Pop said the dog dish caps on this car are incorrect. They looked right to me for a '61. Anybody confirm that?
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I spotted this really nice '61 Starliner at a local show back in March (pre-corona) and couldn't help but do a walk around. Very rarely see any '61's as many others have noted — much less a Starliner. Pop said the dog dish caps on this car are incorrect. They looked right to me for a '61. Anybody confirm that?
Your father's right - those are for a '65-'66 (need to verify '64 to make sure); '63 ('64 same?) is a different design altogether with a small dished center cone and a shallower profile. '61-'62 have a concentrically-ringed outside edge, projected small cone center and F O R D spelled out near the outer circumference of the cap - see posts #10 and #44 to this thread.

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Those Rochester 2GC carbs aren't really older. And likely slightly newer than the original tri power carbs. I agree it's not original, but if the owner doesn't care, I'm sure it runs just as good.

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Wrong caps , but a beautiful car !
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Another very nice 1961 Ford Starliner. Yes, the Dog Dish Hubcaps fitted are 65-66 model as previously mentioned. Still very nice.
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Ford "dog dish" Hubcaps. The above picture shows the different Ford "dog dish" Hubcaps from 1957 to 1966. Starting from the left, we have the 1957-1959 (white centre). The next one in with the black around the outside is correct for the 1960 Fords. The third hubcap in is correct for the 1961 and 1962 Fords. This is the style that is correct for the above Starliner. Fourth is with all the lines around the edge is correct for the 1963 Fords. Second last with the cross bar is correct for the 1964 Fords, while the hubcap on the right is correct for the 1965 and 1966 Fords. I hope that this Ford "dog dish" identification helps.
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This recently imported unrestored 1961 Ford Starliner is fitted with 1960 Ford "dog dish" Hubcaps. They still look good.
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Nice ! It looks like it might be an original paint car.

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Great collection and explanation mercman !

Thanks for the details.

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Ford "dog dish" Hubcaps. The above picture shows the different Ford "dog dish" Hubcaps from 1957 to 1966. Starting from the left, we have the 1957-1959 (white centre). The next one in with the black around the outside is correct for the 1960 Fords. The third hubcap in is correct for the 1961 and 1962 Fords. This is the style that is correct for the above Starliner. Fourth is with all the lines around the edge is correct for the 1963 Fords. Second last with the cross bar is correct for the 1964 Fords, while the hubcap on the right is correct for the 1965 and 1966 Fords. I hope that this Ford "dog dish" identification helps.

Great pic and explanation! Neat to see the changes they made over the years.
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yblock57 - I am glad that you liked my photo of the lineup of Ford Dog Dish Hubcaps that I added to this Thread.
By way of explanation, in Australia, the first year that Ford Australia offered Full Wheel Covers on the "big" Fords was the 1965 Ford Galaxie. Two model Fords hat were never released in Australia are the 1957 and 1958 models. In their place, Ford Australia continued to offer the 1956 Ford Customline, but with revised trim. After missing two years, we did catch up again with the USA with the locally available 1959 Ford Fairlanes, including a Wagon for the first and only time, but they all came with 15" wheels and Dog Dish Hubcaps. For the years 1962, 1963 and 1964, only the "Compact" Ford Fairlane was offered, and once again, all came with Dog Dish Hubcaps. Part way through 1964, a limited quantity of 1964 Ford Galaxies were available, but they all had Dog Dish Hubcaps. After the 1965 Ford Galaxie model, Ford Australia continued to offer the "Big" Ford Galaxies in 1966, 1967 and 1968. Then in 1969 through to 1972, Ford Australia offered the Ford LTD, and then there were no more. The only Body Style offered locally were the Four Door Sedans, however, the "last of the breed" 1971 and 1972 Ford LTD's were offered as Four Door Pillared Hardtops.
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Beautiful 1961 Ford Galaxie Starliner, powered by a 427 SOHC V8 Engine.
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So in 59 60 61 Australian Full size Fords had 15" wheels and North America had 14" unless a Hipo/police/Taxi, maybe would explain no full covers. I've seen a lot of 67 Fords with the 65/66 hubcaps back in the day. Nice photos.
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Cover and Back page with the Specifications - Australian 1959 Ford Fairlane 500, Custom 300 and Ranch Wagon Sales Brochure.
You will read:- "Tyres - Five 6.70 x 15 4-ply super balloon tubeless tyres standard on Custom and Fairlane Sedans (6.70 x 15 6-ply optional). Five 6.70 x 15 6-ply standard on Ranch Wagon".
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Illustrations of the Custom 300 from the Ford Australia Sales Brochure for the 1959 and 1960-61 big Australian Fords. Unfortunately, for the purpose of showing the 15" wheels and Hubcaps, the Fairlane 500 was parked at such an angle that you can't see the Hubcaps. However, the Customs 300 was parked correctly so that the Hubcaps were clearly visible. Having said that, all Australian 1959 - 1961 "big" Fords came with 15" wheels and small "dog dish" Hubcaps and Wheel Trims tucked behind the Hubcap.
If you look at the top illustration of the 1959 Ford Custom 300, you will see that the Artist has drawn the car with 1956 Ford Hubcaps? The actual 1959 Fords did come out with the correct 1959 Ford "dog dish" Hubcap.
As Ford Australia spent big money on producing these cars in Australia, and offering a Station Wagon for the very first time, they weren't about to discard the stampings for an all new 1960 model. So, for the 1960 "big" Fords, it was decided to change the looks of the "new" 1960 model, so the Grille and Side Trim from the Canadian 1959 Meteor was chosen. This "new" 1960 "big" Ford did get the correct, new for 1960 "dog dish" Hubcaps.
This revised 1960 model was also carried over for 1961 with minimal changes.
In Australia, the 1959 and slightly revised 1960 and 1961 Fords sold for all three years.
In 1962, Ford Australia management and consultants thought that the "big" Fords were getting too big, so chose to replace these cars with the all new Compact 1962 Ford Fairlane, but that is another story.
The "true" 1960 and 1961 big Fords were never sold in Australia, which is a real pity.
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This is the Cover of the 1959 Canadian Meteor Sales Brochure showing the different Grille treatment and Side Trim that Ford Australia applied to the revised model, so as to give the original 1959 Ford a new look for 1960.
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Cover and Back page with the Specifications - Australian 1959 Ford Fairlane 500, Custom 300 and Ranch Wagon Sales Brochure.
You will read:- "Tyres - Five 6.70 x 15 4-ply super balloon tubeless tyres standard on Custom and Fairlane Sedans (6.70 x 15 6-ply optional). Five 6.70 x 15 6-ply standard on Ranch Wagon".


The engine specifications seem to be a little incorrect. They say the 332 engine bore and stroke was 4.00 x 3.50. Pretty sure that's more like specs for a 352 V8.

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I don't know the actual Specs of these engines, but the only engine that was available in the Australian assembled 1959-1961 Fords was the 332 CID. The 252 CID was never available locally.
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Just to make it easier to compare the Specifications listed in the original Sales Brochures for these two years, I have enlarged the Engine Specs for the 1959 and 1960 Ford 332 V8 Engine.
For the 1959 model, the BHP is listed as 204 and the Torque 300
It increases for the 1960 model - BHP 225 and the Torque 325.
What is unusual is that the "ft" and "lbs" is reversed between these two models when listing the Torques?
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The 332 had a 4.00" bore and 3.30" stroke. Pretty sure the specs have the wrong stroke listed.

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Hi Scicala, I just looked up the Specifications for the 1959 Ford Engines, as listed in the Ford of USA Sales Brochure, and you are 100 % correct. I don't know how they got it wrong here in Australia. The 352 Engine was never offered in Australia, nor was any 6 Cylinder engine in the full size cars. The 292 was offered in the Australian 1958 big Fords, which were basically the 1956 Ford but updated with the Grille from the 1955 Meteor and the Side Trim from the 1956 Meteor. The "true" 1957 and 1958 Fords were never marked here in Australia. Likewise, Ford Australia never offered a full size Ford after these local 1959-1961 models until they introduced the 1965 Ford Galaxie. Then, from 1965 onwards we received updated models for every year until 1972. The 1972 model was the last of the big Fords sold here in Australia.
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Those wheel trims threw me, I like that meteor grill. Thanks for the pics.
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The Wheel Trims on the illustration of the 59 Custom are 1956 Ford dog dish hubcaps with chrome trim rims behind them. Ford did update the hubcap on the revised 1960 Custom 300 model to the correct dog dish hubcap for 1960 model Fords, again with the trim rim behind it.
As all of these 1959-1961 Fords got 15" wheels in Australia, they all came with dog dish hubcaps and trim rims.
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Just a thought.

1958 CANADIAN FORD FE choices were the 332 and 361. No 352.
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Specifications from the Canadian Sales Brochure for the 1959 Ford. Note that they list a 361 CID Thunderbird Special in addition to the 332 CID Engine?
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Just checked the Engine Specifications for the Canadian 1959 Meteor, and they are listed the same as the Canadian 1959 Fords. In case Readers are not familiar with the Meteor, in actual fact, it is nearly identical to the regular 1959 Fords, but had a different Grille and slightly different Side Trim. The name Ford does not appear anywhere on the Meteor. The Meteor was sold in Canadian Mercury Dealers, at a price considerably lower than the regular Mercury models. To even the score, the Ford Dealers got the Monarch, which in reality was really a Mercury "under the skin". Like the Meteor, the Monarch did not have any reference to Mercury, and was sold by Canadian Ford Dealers to interested Buyers who wanted a more upmarket car that the regular Fords.
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This is the Engine availability in the true 1961 Fords. While the 332 was available in the Australian 1961 Fords, it was not even listed in the Sales Brochure of the true 1961 Fords.
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They didn't mention the tri power 401 HP 390. That may have been a dealer installed and over the counter thing though. Sal
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They didn't mention the tri power 401 HP 390. That may have been a dealer installed and over the counter thing though.

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The 1961 TRI-POWER set and W/4/S were thrown in the trunk (375 HP car) and dealer installed.


FORD USA 332 FE last year usage was the 1959 model run.
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Neat recent Import 1961 Ford Two-Door Ranch Wagon in Australia. Nice.
This was the final year for the full size Ford two door station wagons.
If you wanted a Ford two door station wagon in 1962, you could get one in the Compact Ford Falcon range.
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That is a very nice 1961 Ford Fairlane 500 2 door sedan that Six Volt mentioned in his Post that is advertised in Hemmings.
Now that’s a really nice car !
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Lovely 1961 Ford Sunliner, complete with "dog dish" Hubcaps.
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my 61 convertible has been hiding in various pole buildings and 4 door parts car is out back..

Had pic's but would not load though reduced size already...
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Lovely 1961 Ford Sunliner, complete with "dog dish" Hubcaps.
I bought one just like that back in the 70's, from a co-worker. Small engine, automatic. I didn't keep it, resold it after a while.
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1961 Ford Galaxie Sunliner Convertible. These are great looking old Fords. Why have they been forgotten by the majority of collectors?
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Hi there, I have a 1961 Ford Galaxies right-hand drive, I had the motor reconditioned it is 352 big block.
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Rochesters were the best choice because the manifold is probably an Offenhauser and they had the small carb bolt pattern
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1961 Ford Galaxie Starliner. These are great looking cars.
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1961 Ford Galaxie Starliner - great looking cars, coming and going.
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1961 Ford Country Squire - Nice.
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Final Year for the Two Door Ranch Wagon - 1961. A real rare model.
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1961 Ford Sunliner with 1946 Ford Hubcaps?
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Final Year for the Two Door Ranch Wagon - 1961. A real rare model. What a beauty.
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Neat 1961 Ford Sunliner looking good with Poverty Hubcaps.
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1961 Ford Sunliner with 1946 Ford Hubcaps?
I think they are SMOOTHIES - http://thewheelsmith.net/
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