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Bob-A · 02-17-2011, 07:08 AM

"B" block with a "B" timing cover, but with an "A" distributor using modern points. What is easiest way to time this animal

with least amount of tools & "expertise" ?

Bob-A

jetmek · 02-17-2011, 09:23 AM

its practicly impossible to correctly time the engine with those parts it will be too far advanced . but i dont think you would hurt anything by fudging it and setting the points so they open slightly after the pindrops in....

Kurt in NJ · 02-17-2011, 09:36 AM

Take out #1 plug, use wire or other feeler, find tdc (top dead center) of piston on compression-rotor pointing to #1 contact---time it there like you have pin in for A

Bob-A · 02-17-2011, 12:07 PM

Thanks for the input guys.

I might just crank the beast up, loosen the
distributor lock screw. And slowly.... retard the dist. untill it sounds about
right then tighten her back up.

She is definitely running to far advanced right now. Like I said ealier I want to use the least amount of tools and "expertise"........LOL.

Thanks again.......

Bob-A

Bob C · 02-17-2011, 12:17 PM

Won't work. There is a pin in the distributor housing that sticks
in the head so it won't turn.

Bob

Charlie Stephens · 02-17-2011, 01:04 PM

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The easiest way might be to just install a Model A timing cover. They bolt right onto the B engine. Another way might be to drill and tap a second hole in the Model B timing cover.

Charlie Stephens

ursus · 02-17-2011, 08:05 PM

Two options to consider:
1) Time it using the Model B timing cover and pin but know that it will be 19 degrees advanced when the lever is all the way up and remember that 1/3 of the way down the quadrant on the on the column is the maximum advance that you would ever set it to while driving. The result is that you would have a manual advance Model-B, which had an initial advance of 19 degrees and a total advance of 32-33 degrees.

2) Find ignition TDC for #1 cylinder, remove the timing pin from the cover and drill a new hole in the timing gear. Then time it like a Model A using the second hole that the pin drops into. Start it and drive it just like a Model A.
I've done it both ways....

James Rogers · 02-17-2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetmek

setting the points so they open slightly after the pindrops in....

Before the pin drops in.

Milton · 02-17-2011, 10:11 PM

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/timingiseverything.htm

Bob-A · 02-18-2011, 08:46 AM

Kurt in NJ: Looks like I'll try it your way.

Bob-C: You were no help.....LOL.

Charlie Stephens: I got one, Charlie, I just can't find the critter.

Thanks everybody else too. If and when I perform the sacred act I'll
let y'all know the results.

Bob-A

Gord. B by the bay · 02-18-2011, 02:29 PM

Bob you are OK just line up the rotor with no 1 then fine tune it by ear until it sounds nice and drive 'er Gord. B by the Bay

Bob-A · 02-19-2011, 08:25 AM

Hey everybody, I used "Kurt in NJ's" way of timing the motor and it definitely sounds better now.

Thanks everybody for your advice.

Bob-A

kelley's restoration · 02-19-2011, 09:46 AM

buy a new pulley for the front with degree's on it and top dead center mark, and make a pointer
thats what i did
tk

02-17-2011, 09:23 AM	#2
jetmek Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: albany Posts: 466	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? its practicly impossible to correctly time the engine with those parts it will be too far advanced . but i dont think you would hurt anything by fudging it and setting the points so they open slightly after the pindrops in.... __________________ engine and component overhauls my specialty! Website- www.godevilgarage.com

02-17-2011, 09:36 AM	#3
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Take out #1 plug, use wire or other feeler, find tdc (top dead center) of piston on compression-rotor pointing to #1 contact---time it there like you have pin in for A

02-17-2011, 12:07 PM	#4
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Thanks for the input guys. I might just crank the beast up, loosen the distributor lock screw. And slowly.... retard the dist. untill it sounds about right then tighten her back up. She is definitely running to far advanced right now. Like I said ealier I want to use the least amount of tools and "expertise"........LOL. Thanks again....... Bob-A

02-17-2011, 12:17 PM	#5
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,754	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Won't work. There is a pin in the distributor housing that sticks in the head so it won't turn. Bob

02-17-2011, 01:04 PM	#6
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,032	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The easiest way might be to just install a Model A timing cover. They bolt right onto the B engine. Another way might be to drill and tap a second hole in the Model B timing cover. Charlie Stephens

02-17-2011, 07:08 AM	#1
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	"B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? "B" block with a "B" timing cover, but with an "A" distributor using modern points. What is easiest way to time this animal with least amount of tools & "expertise" ? Bob-A

02-17-2011, 08:05 PM	#7
ursus Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,375	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Two options to consider: 1) Time it using the Model B timing cover and pin but know that it will be 19 degrees advanced when the lever is all the way up and remember that 1/3 of the way down the quadrant on the on the column is the maximum advance that you would ever set it to while driving. The result is that you would have a manual advance Model-B, which had an initial advance of 19 degrees and a total advance of 32-33 degrees. 2) Find ignition TDC for #1 cylinder, remove the timing pin from the cover and drill a new hole in the timing gear. Then time it like a Model A using the second hole that the pin drops into. Start it and drive it just like a Model A. I've done it both ways....

02-17-2011, 10:11 PM	#9
Milton Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 837	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/timingiseverything.htm

02-18-2011, 08:46 AM	#10
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Kurt in NJ: Looks like I'll try it your way. Bob-C: You were no help.....LOL. Charlie Stephens: I got one, Charlie, I just can't find the critter. Thanks everybody else too. If and when I perform the sacred act I'll let y'all know the results. Bob-A

02-18-2011, 02:29 PM	#11
Gord. B by the bay Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Owen Sound Ont. Canada Posts: 198	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Bob you are OK just line up the rotor with no 1 then fine tune it by ear until it sounds nice and drive 'er Gord. B by the Bay

02-19-2011, 08:25 AM	#12
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? Hey everybody, I used "Kurt in NJ's" way of timing the motor and it definitely sounds better now. Thanks everybody for your advice. Bob-A

02-19-2011, 09:46 AM	#13
kelley's restoration Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: 60046 Posts: 888	Re: "B" to "A" timing or is it "A" to "B" ? buy a new pulley for the front with degree's on it and top dead center mark, and make a pointer thats what i did tk __________________ anyone need some Model A restoration work done in Illinois? shoot me an email for pics and information [email protected]