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BORN2L8 · 02-02-2013, 09:19 PM

I have an early 1923 truck with a signed registration card by the original owner from 1937. The card states the model, date first registered, vin, owner's name and address. Its my understanding that they didn't begin to issue vehicle titles until 1923 in Pennsylvania. Being this is an early 1923, I wonder if the truck could be titled from the registration card? Has anyone had an experience like this to obtain a title in Pa.? I'm going to check with a notary too. The card is the only proof of any prior ownership that I have. No title.

Mike V. Florida · 02-03-2013, 05:36 AM

PENNSYLVANIA information (85 pages) for a start.

oliverguy · 02-03-2013, 06:13 AM

I would go see your state rep.

BORN2L8 · 02-03-2013, 05:32 PM

Thanks for the input.

yachtsmanbill · 02-03-2013, 08:29 PM

Buy a title... Model Ts were ID'd by engine numbers and very few even still have the original in them. Stamp some numbers that match on the frame or make a water inlet plate stamped with the numbers and glue it and paint it in place. Cops dont care about stuff like that when the gangstas' are killin' grandma for crack money. They see a Model T and smile from ear to ear.
When I see a cop doing radar by us, I pull in on purpose to STS with him so they see mine up close and personal. The guys here are surprised that a motorist can make a social call without pulling out the UZI. ws

BORN2L8 · 02-04-2013, 06:54 PM

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yachtsmanbill,

I understand what you're saying. I really don't want to surrender the old registration card since it will end up being destroyed. Where I'm at its more dirt forest roads than pavement anyway. I'm giving the title company approach some serious thought. though.

CharlieB · 02-04-2013, 07:14 PM

Don't really know what it's like in Pa. but in N.J. if you don't go to a DMV office that handles classic or collector car plates you'll get crap information. Go on-line get a phone # and get some hard info. Pictures might be necessary. They are here (3 views). I kind of doubt you'll be keeping that registration card. Better get a good color copy before you try to title it. A title in the former owner's name does you no good if that's what you're planning. You'll be in exactly the same boat you're in now. No proof of ownership.

yachtsmanbill · 02-04-2013, 07:40 PM

After I secured the "original" 1925 title, the great state of Wisconsin returned the original stamped "VOID" as an historical document. I had to supply a SASE.
Wis. began issuing "titles" on May1, 1931. The old guy at the DMV said he hadnt seen a brown title in at least 25 years. No questions asked. KISS me baby!! ws

PM me for further details

trulyvintage · 02-06-2013, 09:27 AM

Bill,

Is that you behind the wheel ?

Jim

yachtsmanbill · 02-06-2013, 10:33 AM

Hell noooooo !!! Thats Pat learning to drive the T... It was about 50 and foggy right next to the lake and no windshield means "BURRRRRR!!!! " ws

A slight size descrepancy!

trulyvintage · 02-06-2013, 12:31 PM

Bill,

Thanks for clarifying that, you two both look happy ...

I enjoy reading your posts,

Jim

02-02-2013, 09:19 PM	#1
BORN2L8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Salisbury, Pennsylvania Posts: 67	Title a Model T in Pa.? I have an early 1923 truck with a signed registration card by the original owner from 1937. The card states the model, date first registered, vin, owner's name and address. Its my understanding that they didn't begin to issue vehicle titles until 1923 in Pennsylvania. Being this is an early 1923, I wonder if the truck could be titled from the registration card? Has anyone had an experience like this to obtain a title in Pa.? I'm going to check with a notary too. The card is the only proof of any prior ownership that I have. No title.

02-03-2013, 05:36 AM	#2
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? PENNSYLVANIA information (85 pages) for a start. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

02-03-2013, 06:13 AM	#3
oliverguy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reading PA Posts: 241	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? I would go see your state rep.

02-03-2013, 05:32 PM	#4
BORN2L8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Salisbury, Pennsylvania Posts: 67	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Thanks for the input.

02-03-2013, 08:29 PM	#5
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Buy a title... Model Ts were ID'd by engine numbers and very few even still have the original in them. Stamp some numbers that match on the frame or make a water inlet plate stamped with the numbers and glue it and paint it in place. Cops dont care about stuff like that when the gangstas' are killin' grandma for crack money. They see a Model T and smile from ear to ear. When I see a cop doing radar by us, I pull in on purpose to STS with him so they see mine up close and personal. The guys here are surprised that a motorist can make a social call without pulling out the UZI. ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-04-2013, 06:54 PM	#6
BORN2L8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Salisbury, Pennsylvania Posts: 67	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) yachtsmanbill, I understand what you're saying. I really don't want to surrender the old registration card since it will end up being destroyed. Where I'm at its more dirt forest roads than pavement anyway. I'm giving the title company approach some serious thought. though.

02-04-2013, 07:14 PM	#7
CharlieB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Toms River N.J. Posts: 515	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Don't really know what it's like in Pa. but in N.J. if you don't go to a DMV office that handles classic or collector car plates you'll get crap information. Go on-line get a phone # and get some hard info. Pictures might be necessary. They are here (3 views). I kind of doubt you'll be keeping that registration card. Better get a good color copy before you try to title it. A title in the former owner's name does you no good if that's what you're planning. You'll be in exactly the same boat you're in now. No proof of ownership.

02-04-2013, 07:40 PM	#8
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? After I secured the "original" 1925 title, the great state of Wisconsin returned the original stamped "VOID" as an historical document. I had to supply a SASE. Wis. began issuing "titles" on May1, 1931. The old guy at the DMV said he hadnt seen a brown title in at least 25 years. No questions asked. KISS me baby!! ws PM me for further details __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-06-2013, 09:27 AM	#9
trulyvintage Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Direct Enclosed Transport Since 2006 Posts: 4,164	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Bill, Is that you behind the wheel ? Jim __________________ Click Here To See Where I Am Today What My Actual Customers Say Click Here Click Here To See Vehicles I Have Hauled

02-06-2013, 10:33 AM	#10
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Hell noooooo !!! Thats Pat learning to drive the T... It was about 50 and foggy right next to the lake and no windshield means "BURRRRRR!!!! " ws A slight size descrepancy! __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

02-06-2013, 12:31 PM	#11
trulyvintage Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Direct Enclosed Transport Since 2006 Posts: 4,164	Re: Title a Model T in Pa.? Bill, Thanks for clarifying that, you two both look happy ... I enjoy reading your posts, Jim __________________ Click Here To See Where I Am Today What My Actual Customers Say Click Here Click Here To See Vehicles I Have Hauled