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Old 06-29-2023, 05:43 PM   #1
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Hello

I purchased this head from a very helpful person at the The Race of Gentlemen a few years back. He was remaking these along with some other speed parts. Does anyone know how to reach him and purchase more parts?

Thanks Ken

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Old 06-29-2023, 06:55 PM   #2
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Try this link. http://www.dan4banger.com/products.html
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Hey Bob, that is a beautiful site. Thanks for the link.
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Old 06-29-2023, 08:54 PM   #4
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My CCPU has one of Dan's earlier heads with the 4-bolt water pump and just love it. If you think that a 6:1 head wakes up an A wait till you try this at 7:1 Check clearances, piston to head and around the valves and keep an eye on how much timing you give it. A great head
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My CCPU has one of Dan's earlier heads with the 4-bolt water pump and just love it. If you think that a 6:1 head wakes up an A wait till you try this at 7:1 Check clearances, piston to head and around the valves and keep an eye on how much timing you give it. A great head
If you think 7 to 1 wakes it up, try it at 11 to 1.
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:28 PM   #6
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If you think 7 to 1 wakes it up, try it at 11 to 1.
Bet it does

My coupe is going this route though
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Old 06-30-2023, 11:02 AM   #7
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Nuthin like compression to get a 4 banger to run............
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Old 06-30-2023, 11:34 AM   #8
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back to OP's original Q,
I wonder if this was a head made by Tod Buttermore?

He was also heavy into making block(s) and other heads.

Not sure what happened, he disappeared?

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I wonder if this was a head made by Tod Buttermore?

He was also heavy into making block(s) and other heads.

Not sure what happened, he disappeared?

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Those were made by Dan Price.
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Old 07-01-2023, 06:16 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone for the reply. This jogged my memory. Dan is who I met at TROG. I would like to buy more parts from him
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I first got interested in the Thomas equipment back in the sixties. My observation at that time was they only produced a head and manifold. Later items came from people like Dan Price. I believe he retooled the head and manifold and added a Models B side plate that looked like it belonged with the other parts. I have never seen a side plate with the logo that fit a Model A.

An observation about the current manifolds is that the word “Thomas” is located once at each end instead of being once in the center. Attached is a picture I took at the LA Roadster show several years ago showing what I believe is an original manifold with the logo in the center. The is also a newly added manifold produced for 3 two-barrel carburetors which is probably far more than most engines need. It looks neat but I would block of one if not two of the carburetors.
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I first got interested in the Thomas equipment back in the sixties. My observation at that time was they only produced a head and manifold. Later items came from people like Dan Price. I believe he retooled the head and manifold and added a Models B side plate that looked like it belonged with the other parts. I have never seen a side plate with the logo that fit a Model A.

An observation about the current manifolds is that the word “Thomas” is located once at each end instead of being once in the center. Attached is a picture I took at the LA Roadster show several years ago showing what I believe is an original manifold with the logo in the center. The is also a newly added manifold produced for 3 two-barrel carburetors which is probably far more than most engines need. It looks neat but I would block of one if not two of the carburetors.
Very cool set up. Thanks for sharing the picture and your knowledge
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I wonder if this was a head made by Tod Buttermore?
He was also heavy into making block(s) and other heads.
Not sure what happened, he disappeared?
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He said recently that his foundry is flat out.
Tod's version of the Thomas head and modern type exhaust manifold casting dies seem to be up for sale by Don Snyder.
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He said recently that his foundry is flat out.
Tod's version of the Thomas head and modern type exhaust manifold casting dies seem to be up for sale by Don Snyder.
I know the Alum Block project was ditched, at least one investor was able to recover his buy.

There was an advertisement in SOSS a few months ago for the EX Mani and Thomas head by Ferguson.

In any event there is opportunity out there to keep some of this equipment flowing.

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I know the Alum Block project was ditched, at least one investor was able to recover his buy.

There was an advertisement in SOSS a few months ago for the EX Mani and Thomas head by Ferguson.

In any event there is opportunity out there to keep some of this equipment flowing.

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With one simple mod to the casting, that head could be the ultimate answer to a proven all out flathead race version of that engine.
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