|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
12-07-2021, 01:30 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 3,963
|
Anyone else heard or know?
I had a customer of mine tell me yesterday that GM is going to close the majority of there engine factories and quit producing aftermarket fuel burning motors by 2025 as part of the goal of being 100% EV by 2035......ANYONE heard about this OR have heard IF the "Blue Oval" is following suit?? Sounds as IF "crate motors" are to be the "FIRST" casualty of the car collecting hobby.
|
12-07-2021, 01:39 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here
Posts: 2,963
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Ford already offers an “Electric Crate Motor”. Already on back order.
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
12-07-2021, 01:49 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Shelton, WA
Posts: 3,800
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
None of my cars have "crate motors". Likely not affecting me. Will rebuild what I have if necessary.
I haven't heard anyone address that you can fill up your car with fuel in a few minutes and recharging an electric vehicle can take hours. How is that going to work even if we had enough excess power on the grid? Sounds like massive backups at the recharge stations. |
12-07-2021, 01:56 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,871
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Hertz recently order 100,000, Tesla's for their fleet. Tesla has more market value than Ford. All that shouldn't effect EV8 guys except the price of good blocks will likely rise. There are upsides and downsides to electric cars, as with almost anything.
|
12-07-2021, 02:53 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: East Coast in CT
Posts: 1,529
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
It might be a good time to get into battery recycling a ground floor investment?
__________________
I use the F word a lot no not that word these words Flathead , Focus and Finish. "Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club using a Ford Flathead block" Owner , Builder, Driver of the First Ford Flathead bodied roadster to run 200 MPH Record July 13, 2018 LTA timing association 200.921 in one and a half miles burning gasoline. First ever gas burning Ford flathead powered roadster to run 200 MPH at Bonneville Salt Flats setting the record August 7th 2021 at 205.744 MPH |
12-07-2021, 04:11 PM | #6 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON
Posts: 11,114
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
About three weeks ago, I had a brain-fart, contemplating getting into commercial charging stations for the masses that will be needing to re-charge their daily-drivers while at work, for instance. It took me about three minutes worth of research to realize that I was a little late for that game. I STILL don't understand how California proposes charging ALL of the new electric cars that are coming, when they can't even keep the power on TODAY just to run refrigerators and TVs. I just cannot imagine what it is that keeps people wanting to continue to live in that wonderfully 'together' state. It don't sound all that good from out here. DD . |
|
12-07-2021, 04:45 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: ohio
Posts: 986
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
What happens when an electric car gets in a flood hmmmmmm ?
|
12-07-2021, 04:48 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lyman,ME.
Posts: 2,630
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Not that it has much to do with the discussion, but didn’t Hertz file for bankruptcy protection in the first covid wave. My wife worked for them in 2019 and received a lot of correspondence about legal claims due to bankruptcy. Don’t know where they’d get the money for 100,000 Tesla’s. But like the man above says What Do I Know!!!.....Mark
__________________
I'm thinkin' about crankin' My ragged ol' truck up and haulin' myself into town. Billy Joe Shaver |
12-07-2021, 04:55 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Hartford, Ct
Posts: 5,898
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
From one of the stops at the local recharge station
00
__________________
DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES |
12-07-2021, 08:52 PM | #10 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,645
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Quote:
__________________
Alan |
|
12-07-2021, 10:35 PM | #11 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,150
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Quote:
Yeah, like these people....
__________________
The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... "Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!" "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 12-08-2021 at 12:31 AM. |
|
12-07-2021, 10:45 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Orcas Island Washington
Posts: 4,937
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
I live on the left coast but all it ever does up here is RAIN
__________________
Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson) |
12-07-2021, 11:00 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: elmira,ny
Posts: 1,517
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
talked to a guy that has a Tesla and it goes like 450 mi. on a charge and will recharge in 1 hr. It's called a super charged Tesla and yes I heard that GM will go all electric.
|
12-07-2021, 11:13 PM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Orcas Island Washington
Posts: 4,937
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
As long as we don't mess with their thing, why would they mess with ours? We are a teeny tiny drop in the bucket of dino fuel users.
__________________
Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson) |
12-07-2021, 11:33 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sw minnesota
Posts: 4,577
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
They want us gone. They can not just say no, you cant play anymore, but they will force us out once the electrics tip the scale with higher taxes for plates, and gas so high you will "need" to go electric
|
12-08-2021, 02:51 AM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,645
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Yep, those sun worshipers are highly influential with the new generation of City Council Members everywhere you go.
__________________
Alan |
12-08-2021, 07:41 AM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,751
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
I think it was Motor Trend that just devoted an entire month issue to EV. Battery technology is about 10 years away from a much lower cost and longer range, faster recharging battery, to put into production. The lower cost battery will make EV about the same cost, OR, less to own as gas cars over a 5 year period. GM will still be making gas powered large truck type vehicles. Ford is in the same boat. At this time Tesla has the longest range battery at about 450 miles in just one of their models. The recharge times from nearly dead to full charge are about 8 hours at this point. It's going to take a lot of time to drive from coast to coast. Your going to see a lot less long distance driving except for large trucks.
A lot of buyers forget about recharging. It appears the chargers can run up to about $600. PLUS the cost of labor and material for installation in a garage by an electrician add up to $2,000. in some areas of the country. Last edited by Terry,OH; 12-08-2021 at 07:46 AM. |
12-08-2021, 07:51 AM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,181
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
I've been thinking about this since the post went up. I'd like to know what energy sources they are planning to use to power the grid to charge this massive fleet of electric cars in 2030.
As it stands now, I believe renewable energy sourced account for only 19.8% of our resources. Unless our electric grid is upgraded at an unbelievable rate, we'll need to fall back on fossil fuel powered electric plants, which would seem to have a negative impact on the clean aspect of all these electric vehicles. I'm assuming that hydrogen fuel cells are out of the running? That seemed to have a lot of promise since hydrogen is abundant (albeit highly flammable) and the byproduct of hydrogen combustion is H20. I do believe the genie is out of the bottle in regards to electric vehicles, but I just can't imagine to environmental impact of trashing all the left over fossil fueled vehicles. It wasn't too long ago that your local wrecking yard were deemed hazardous waste sites that needed soil remediation. I'd have to assume there would need to be a long ramp to phase these vehicles out. Hopefully I'll be taking a nice dirt nap by the time that happens. Last edited by Tim Ayers; 12-08-2021 at 07:57 AM. |
12-08-2021, 08:13 AM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 1,621
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
[QUOTE=Terry,OH;2083444]I think it was Motor Trend that just devoted an entire month issue to EV. Battery technology is about 10 years away from a much lower cost and longer range, faster recharging battery, to put into production. The lower cost battery will make EV about the same cost, OR, less to own as gas cars over a 5 year period. GM will still be making gas powered large truck type vehicles. Ford is in the same boat. At this time Tesla has the longest range battery at about 450 miles in just one of their models. The recharge times from nearly dead to full charge are about 8 hours at this point. It's going to take a lot of time to drive from coast to coast. Your going to see a lot less long distance driving except for large trucks.
A lot of buyers forget about recharging. It appears the chargers can run up to about $600. PLUS the cost of labor and material for installation in a garage by an electrician add up to $2,000. in some areas of the country.[/QUOT Curious, would chargers (2 per average household) work with older homes' 100 amp panels?
__________________
I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs. |
12-08-2021, 08:16 AM | #20 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 3,963
|
Re: Anyone else heard or know?
Quote:
|
|
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|