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1930 Cabriolet · 03-20-2015, 11:14 AM

How to install A flathead V8 into a Ford Model A?
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Scott H in Wheaton · 03-20-2015, 11:38 AM

I would use an engine hoist

Henry/Kokomo · 03-20-2015, 11:45 AM

Lots of things must be considered. If you could describe your project in more detail or ask some more specific questions, I'm sure you'd get appropriate answers. I'm also building an AV8 and would be glad to share what I know about it.

Regards

john in illinois · 03-20-2015, 12:00 PM

As Henry said,it depends on what you want to do. I also am building one. A good start to see what is involved is the Bishop Tardel book.

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Traditio...+bishop+tardel

I would be glad to answer any questions.

John

Mart · 03-20-2015, 12:10 PM

I could spend an hour telling you everything I know, but with such a short request for info I don't feel inclined to.

Give more details of what you have, what you want to do, what you know and what you are unsure of.

The tardel/bishop is a great place to start.

There are some build threads on the hamb too.

Put some effort in and start looking.

Mart.

Charlie Stephens · 03-20-2015, 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1930 Cabriolet

How to install A flathead V8 into a Ford Model A?
Please respond email or post reply.
[email protected]

Please don't request emailed replies, other people might want the information and it provides the opportunity for a large group to evaluate the correctness of the information. Another reason to use posts is that people will assume you already have been sent the answer and it is not worth their time (and answering your question will take time) and not waste their time writing a reply.

Charlie Stephens

bart78 · 03-20-2015, 12:12 PM

Buy the Bishop Tardel book. That will get you started.

Brendan · 03-20-2015, 05:39 PM

I have a 29 Roadster, I also have a good 37 motor. also I was going to use the A rear when the V8 finds its way in there. I was wondering if a guy could use Dennis Clings kit to use the A petals. the kit is made for putting a 39 trans in an A also I was thinking about fabing up a rear cross member.one thing I have to do is move the steering box forward. also I have to cut a little off the fire wall, there is a little section that the toe board sits on

Brendan · 03-20-2015, 05:40 PM

I wanted to use the kit for the 39 trans because I have juice brakes on my car

Brendan · 03-20-2015, 05:46 PM

I tried this on for size, I have to get it back about in inch, that is why I need to trim the fire wall!

39topless · 03-20-2015, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

Please don't request emailed replies, other people might want the information and it provides the opportunity for a large group to evaluate the correctness of the information. Another reason to use posts is that people will assume you already have been sent the answer and it is not worth their time (and answering your question will take time) and not waste their time writing a reply.

Charlie Stephens

Excellent comment. This is a public forum for all the reasons you point out. Thank you

Mart · 03-20-2015, 05:56 PM

Brendan, would a conversion to a 2 bolt crab dizzy help?

32forddump · 03-20-2015, 06:00 PM

Now, thats going to be fun!

Brendan · 03-20-2015, 06:07 PM

no, I just tried to stick this in for fun, I had to do some work on the banger. I needed to get the hole thing back about 1 to 1 and a half inch. this is all stuff I have been thinking about the block was hitting the firewall about where the intake is sitting on top of the block, I would have to trim the firewall a little bit

PeterC · 03-21-2015, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

I tried this on for size, I have to get it back about in inch, that is why I need to trim the fire wall!

Too bad to mess up the fire wall - can you just switch the ignition to crab style or is clearance issue more than that?

Ol' Ron · 03-21-2015, 07:39 AM

The Tardel book is the best place to start.

john in illinois · 03-21-2015, 07:43 AM

There are many things to determine engine location. steering box and header fit,firewall clearance,radiator clearance and wishbone distance if unsplit.
I ended up close to firewall. I am not using a stock fuel pump,so I am going to use an angled oil fill tube to clear.

john in illinois · 03-21-2015, 07:45 AM

A little farther along., Header- steering box.

Brendan · 03-21-2015, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john in illinois

There are many things to determine engine location. steering box and header fit,firewall clearance,radiator clearance and wishbone distance if unsplit.
I ended up close to firewall. I am not using a stock fuel pump,so I am going to use an angled oil fill tube to clear.

are you running the A rear end?

jimTN · 03-21-2015, 07:56 AM

I saw one here locally that was unique in that the wishbones were split and engine dropped down lower in the frame so that it cleared the firewall. Years ago I had one and the firewall was cut to clear back of the engine and moved back. Stock steering did not get in the way. It had a 49-53 truck engine.

03-20-2015, 11:14 AM	#1
1930 Cabriolet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Riverview, Florida Posts: 131	Install a V8 Into a Model A How to install A flathead V8 into a Ford Model A? Please respond email or post reply. [email protected]

03-20-2015, 11:38 AM	#2
Scott H in Wheaton Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Wheaton, IL near Chicago Posts: 861	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I would use an engine hoist

03-20-2015, 11:45 AM	#3
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A Lots of things must be considered. If you could describe your project in more detail or ask some more specific questions, I'm sure you'd get appropriate answers. I'm also building an AV8 and would be glad to share what I know about it. Regards __________________ Henry

03-20-2015, 12:00 PM	#4
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A As Henry said,it depends on what you want to do. I also am building one. A good start to see what is involved is the Bishop Tardel book. http://www.amazon.com/Build-Traditio...+bishop+tardel I would be glad to answer any questions. John

03-20-2015, 12:10 PM	#5
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I could spend an hour telling you everything I know, but with such a short request for info I don't feel inclined to. Give more details of what you have, what you want to do, what you know and what you are unsure of. The tardel/bishop is a great place to start. There are some build threads on the hamb too. Put some effort in and start looking. Mart.

03-20-2015, 12:12 PM	#7
bart78 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stephenville tx Posts: 1,019	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A Buy the Bishop Tardel book. That will get you started.

03-20-2015, 05:39 PM	#8
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I have a 29 Roadster, I also have a good 37 motor. also I was going to use the A rear when the V8 finds its way in there. I was wondering if a guy could use Dennis Clings kit to use the A petals. the kit is made for putting a 39 trans in an A also I was thinking about fabing up a rear cross member.one thing I have to do is move the steering box forward. also I have to cut a little off the fire wall, there is a little section that the toe board sits on __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

03-20-2015, 05:40 PM	#9
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I wanted to use the kit for the 39 trans because I have juice brakes on my car __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

03-20-2015, 05:46 PM	#10
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I tried this on for size, I have to get it back about in inch, that is why I need to trim the fire wall! __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

03-20-2015, 05:56 PM	#12
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A Brendan, would a conversion to a 2 bolt crab dizzy help?

03-20-2015, 06:00 PM	#13
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A Now, thats going to be fun! __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

03-20-2015, 06:07 PM	#14
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A no, I just tried to stick this in for fun, I had to do some work on the banger. I needed to get the hole thing back about 1 to 1 and a half inch. this is all stuff I have been thinking about the block was hitting the firewall about where the intake is sitting on top of the block, I would have to trim the firewall a little bit __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

03-21-2015, 07:39 AM	#16
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A The Tardel book is the best place to start.

03-21-2015, 07:56 AM	#20
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,509	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I saw one here locally that was unique in that the wishbones were split and engine dropped down lower in the frame so that it cleared the firewall. Years ago I had one and the firewall was cut to clear back of the engine and moved back. Stock steering did not get in the way. It had a 49-53 truck engine.