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Old 06-17-2021, 09:08 PM   #1
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Sad news, Tom Wesenberg's house totally burned. He lost everything. No insurance!
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Sad news, Tom Wesenberg's house totally burned. He lost everything. No insurance!
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I don’t know what the rules are for this site, but somehow we should be able to contribute to Tom to help. We owe him a lot.
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https://ccxmedia.org/news/fire-destr...at-exhaustion/

Cars burned too.
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So sorry to hear about that.
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That's horrible news, you can see Tom's '28 Phaeton in the driveway in the video, what a loss, but thank God, no one was hurt. He restored two powerhouse generators for me about 10 years back, we should do something to help.
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That’s just horrible news…..Tom has been such a helpful friend here for a long time, but sadly absent the past couple of years. Thank goodness no one was hurt, but with no insurance it’s going to be tough to recover.
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Old 06-18-2021, 12:34 AM   #10
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Sorry to hear that.

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Old 06-18-2021, 01:35 AM   #11
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This is absolutely horrible news. My thoughts are with Tom during this difficult time.



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Old 06-18-2021, 04:50 AM   #12
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Start a go fund me page. $ times the thousands on the site would go a long way to help.
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:39 AM   #13
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I was just thinking of a go fund me page as well. I have never done one.

So, if anyone is familiar with setting it up, please do, so that we can help out Tom.

I find it hard to believe that he did not have insurance though.
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Tom was such an articulate man, I am sure he would have insurance. Has anyone talked to him ? Wayne
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He apparently emailed Mitch at VFF to confirm the fire and that the house and cars were not insured. Iím gonna wait on a GoFundMe until thereís one that Tom officially blesses.
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So sorry to hear this! Tom has always been quick to help anyone out so let's help him!
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I can honestly say I know what he is going through.It happened to me just over a year ago,on March 7.Lost everything in the fire,including one A,all my motorcycles,and my cellar full of A parts.Losing the dogs made all that crap seem unimportant though.
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Sadly this can happen to anyone of us. Again, thank God no one was injured of died in the tragedy. Praying for peace for Tom in dealing with this adventure. God is still in control... Chap
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I personally would like to hear from Brent before I /we do anything. Brent is a very wise and intelligent man that I am sure knew Tom well.
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Damn shame.
Tom's one of our heroes. We need to help if we can.
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sadly this can happen to anyone of us. Again, thank god no one was injured of died in the tragedy. Praying for peace for tom in dealing with this adventure. God is still in control... Chap
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I talked to Tom this morning and told him lots of folks are wishing him well and wondering what we can do. Once a fundraising point is set up, one of us will post it here.
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somebody put the GOFUNDME page up so we can get started with the giving.......
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It's happenin', just sit tight.
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Mark Maron is co-organizing this fundraiser with Tom's approval.
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Already been done!
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He apparently emailed Mitch at VFF to confirm the fire and that the house and cars were not insured. Iím gonna wait on a GoFundMe until thereís one that Tom officially blesses.
Already done and posted here
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Wow, hard to believe Tom has not been on Ford Barn for over a year. Best of luck to him.
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There is a Go fund me Page set up for Tom! It's on the other Forum VFF. Thanks for letting me post this Ryan!

No need to call a truce, itís already been posted on this board twice.
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I will support this, but why no insurance?

Sorry, it's just the ex-insurance agent in me. Did not intend to insult anybody!
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Ya know… it’s not for us to judge. If you would like to help the gentleman then do. If not please don’t cast stones. Life is hard. Choices are made. Just my thoughts…
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If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.
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Very sad to hear this.
Has happened to a couple of friends here in Virginia.
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We should keep Tom in our prayers for both his physical and mental health. He has helped all of us. Hopefully those close to him will keep us informed on how we can help him.
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If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.
Wow, I was just about to donate, I guess I will wait and see the reactions on this statement.
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well my reaction is- if you want to be dam cynical about everything in life-then go away. Give to Tom to help a brother out and be glad youre not in his situation. It could be YOU.


btw- ever wonder why people like Tom dont visit this site that often? you answered your own bitter question. Nobody is asking you to mortgage your first born..........
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[QUOTE=Crankster;2027971]If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]

I find this post totally inappropriate. If you donít want to donate that is a personal choice. But please donít discourage others from donating.
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I don't want to donate, nor am I trying to discourage anyone from donating. Anyone with even a basic reading comprehension can understand this.
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I’m 110% in agreement! Come on naysayers think about what you’re saying.
Insurance or not is not the issue. If you think you’re “insured” better read policy. Cars are cars and have to be named assets and insured as autos. Auto parts and a lot of tools and equipment are NOT under home owners and likely have to be a rider or under garage keepers
This whole thing is about caring and helping another individual. Are all you naysayers listening in church or bothering to go?
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Regardless, it is the right thing to do when a person is down and needs, or wants help, is to extend a helping hand.
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When you fix a meal, coffee, or use your rest room.......just think of what Tom is going through, let alone going though the fire remains. Thoughts and prayers for Tom and his wife
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I thought that Tom was (is?) single.

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If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.
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When you make statements like that on a public forum you should also state where you got the information. How do you know what his assets are? How do you know what his net worth is, much less what his income stream is? As you stated, ďjust being carefulĒ goes both ways on the internet.

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When you fix a meal, coffee, or use your rest room.......just think of what Tom is going through, let alone going though the fire remains. Thoughts and prayers for Tom and his wife
I didn't know he finally got married.I had talked to him January or so and I thought he still had a fiance for the first time in his life and he was at times at her place in Arizona.It might have fallen through as at one point she was house cleaning and moved a lot of his stuff around where he could not find it.It took two years almost but my generator I sent him was finally found under his bed and he finally got it finished. It is on my '31 roadster and was well worth the wait. I found out what a good and knowledgeable man he was but he may have been a bachelor too long in his life or not long enough.
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The video I saw shows Tom's place is not in a millionaire's neighborhood. Doesn't matter, it's still a big bite for any millionaire. Donate. Tom's worth it.
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If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.
How ignorant are you....one of the most stupid comments i have ever read....and there is a lot of them..
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If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.
You can increase your credibility substantially by deleting your post. As you can see people are vehemently opposed to your unsubstantiated remarks. Post is considered by many to be very ignorant.
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I didn't know he finally got married.I had talked to him January or so and I thought he still had a fiance for the first time in his life and he was at times at her place in Arizona.It might have fallen through as at one point she was house cleaning and moved a lot of his stuff around where he could not find it.It took two years almost but my generator I sent him was finally found under his bed and he finally got it finished. It is on my '31 roadster and was well worth the wait. I found out what a good and knowledgeable man he was but he may have been a bachelor too long in his life or not long enough.
My mistake, sorry, I thought I heard that he got married.
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How ignorant are you....one of the most stupid comments i have ever read....and there is a lot of them..
Mark I thought this exact same thing, what a stupid thing to post.

Shame on him-----geez Crankster get with the program here.

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Old 06-19-2021, 03:32 PM   #57
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I have known Tom for over 20 years, we are both members of the Model A Club in The Twin Cities. I have spoken to him twice since the fire. He sounds devistated. He needs all the kind words and yes financial support we can muster.

He is always giving…never asks for anything in return.
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We have raised a significant amount already... Some stupid comments ...YES but the vast majority have spoken in actions not words. Let those who understand life continue to be charitable and unquestioning in our faith in God and in each other. I never met Tom but read his welcome to me 7 years ago when I posted question ONE, post ONE. I'm glad I was able to offer something to him, and as I watch the Go Fund Me when I have more come July 1st I'll offer more too, because I believe in my fellow man. I believe in "old car guys (gals)" I believe we need each other now more than ever.
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Old 06-19-2021, 05:43 PM   #59
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Can anyone post a mailing address for Tom? Some people don't do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram but would still like to send well wishes or money.
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I threw a link on the Studebaker Forum too. Let's blow by the goal........
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Great idea, good thinking on your part! Wayne
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This is terrible. While they are alive, all of their lifes work went up in flames, My thoughts are with Tom and family.
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Perhaps there is something positive that can come out of this; which is a lesson to all of us of the value and need for insurance on our automobiles, dwellings and possessions.
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Crankster, just delete your post, move on and we will forget what was said. I understand what you were trying to say but just delete it.
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Tom, this is the first I heard of the fire and it hit me like a gut punch. I have no advice or empty words of encouragement. Only know that you are loved and respected.
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Can anyone post a mailing address for Tom? Some people don't do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram but would still like to send well wishes or money.
There is no address anymore..You can send directly to me, I will deposit and add to the go fund me page. direct msg me for the address
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If we are asking people to open up their checkbooks you damn well better judge whether this is actually a good idea or not.

For the sake of argument what if you were to find out the reason Tom doesn't have insurance is because he self insured. Turns out, he owns numerous properties, a Gulfstream, and has a net worth of 20 million dollars. His annual interest income stream alone is greater than your net worth. How charitable are you feeling now?

Yeah yeah, I know that probably isn't the case here, but, I don't know that. Be careful out there folks. Just sayin'.
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Skimmer Bob, your thoughts are right on. '... helping him when he needs it is a no brainer.'

There are too many people who find it too easy to complain. Though the Internet format is a useful one to communicate and share ideas, it also is a platform for those who attack, complain and drag others down. Many cowards find bravery when it is done in an anonymous way.

I donated a bit to Tom not carrying about whether he had insurance or not or by how much money he has in the bank. None of that matters. He is a man who has freely shared his skills and ideas and fate has hit him hard. When a friend is hurt you don't think about anything else but to help him up.

https://gofund.me/143204dd

Note: I correctred the link. This is the correct one and it works.

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Good grief, this is bad news. I wish Tom all the best at this time and share the sentiments of everyone regarding this disaster.


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Ruth, I corrected it and it now works. Thanks for pointing that out.

I got the incorrect one from the "Go Fund me page for Tom Wesenberg" thread. When I tried it from that thread, even though I saw that it was different, it worked. I may have copied it incorrectly. The corrected one below works:

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Tom is a very nice guy, so sorry this happened to him. Glad he is safe though, his life can't be replaced...
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Wayne

I learned about this last week from Mark when he contacted me privately while I was in Indiana and away from my computer. Like Dean said, it definitely made me feel like throwing up from a blow to the stomach.


I thought about this quite a bit while driving home. My take on this is maybe different than some newer guys simply because like a few others, we have known Tom for many years and know his heart and character. Tom never appeared to me to be someone that selfishly coveted 'things' or took advantage of anyone to gain something. He collected things because he likely had a connection in some way to that item. Tom was always one that gave away more than he kept, -especially if that person was in a bind or had a need. One of the most valued commodities that Tom had IMO was 'Problem Solving', ...and then 'Friends' being a close second to the first. Tom freely shared his wisdom to all those who wanted it, -and he always showed patience to those who didn't understand. I am most thankful that Tom did not lose his ability to work with his hands nor did he lose his friends in this fire!

So I guess my immediate thoughts are that to Tom, money was probably not as valuable to him as was his tools. I definitely agree that for the short-term he needs cash money to buy necessities to sustain himself, and so we all need to give something (-me included), ...but inclusive of that I also am going to suggest we (-me included) look around our shops/garages/sheds for spare tools and equipment that we can gift to him. I am sure someone has an old metal lathe they are no longer using, -or maybe a drill press, or a milling machine, maybe an air compressor, a welder, a jack, or some 'tool thing' that is sitting in the corner gathering dust that could be gifted to him. Even if that 'gift' doesn't work any longer, knowing Tom how we know Tom, if he has some tools, he can likely make it work again. And, if so these are all items that he can use to make a way again for himself. Even later on after he is on his feet again, think about sending him a spare starter, generator, -or some Model-A part that he can refurbish for you, -or maybe something he can restore and sell to someone else would likely be a great boost to his recovery. Again, Tom has been a huge asset to this forum, and to the hobby itself, ...and any thing we/you can do, -no matter how insignificant it may seem to you would likely significantly improve his situation in his future!!
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I just spoke with Tom this AM....He wanted me to thank everyone who donated to the fund.... He is trying to search through debris now and salvage what he can and is very distraught..>lets keep supporting him, he is going to need it...Time to pay it forward for Tom Wesenberg!!
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I just spoke with Tom this AM....He wanted me to thank everyone who donated to the fund.... He is trying to search through debris now and salvage what he can and is very distraught..>lets keep supporting him, he is going to need it...Time to pay it forward for Tom Wesenberg!!
Youíve done an outstanding job Mark. You are to be commended! Wayne
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Brent, though your heart is in the right place, donating items is something that should only proceed when Tom is back on his feet and he decides what he wants to do. It may be that he wants to go in a different direction with his life. Also, some tool donations might not be the type of items that he would choose for himself. We all have a different definition of a workshop.

Now there may be a time when Tom is open to that and he could work out the details but right now I would suggest that we all consider throwing in a few bucks if we can. Let's help him get back on his feet first.

Here's the Go Fund Me page.
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Bttt,please! Wayne
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:40 PM   #78
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I'm an 11 year member of Ford Barn and have been in the hobby for nearly 50 years. I enjoy reading the many requests for advice and benefiting from the wealth of knowledge in the responses. Since I rarely post, I have not directly conversed with many of you, including Tom, but I know he is a respected and valued member of the Model A community. My heart goes out to him and his wife. Thanks to those of you who have set up the relief fund for Tom. I have just contributed to the effort and will do so again. Hope that the response will far surpass the goal. It will take that and much more to get him back on his feet. Encouraging all to give until it hurts.
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Ruth, I corrected it and it now works. Thanks for pointing that out.

I got the incorrect one from the "Go Fund me page for Tom Wesenberg" thread. When I tried it from that thread, even though I saw that it was different, it worked. I may have copied it incorrectly. The corrected one below works:

https://gofund.me/143204dd
not working here.
am I doing something wrong?
when I click on the "payment method" button the little line of dots just keeps repeating and repeating- does not take me to the next step.
20 minutes so far.....
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not working here.
am I doing something wrong?
when I click on the "payment method" button the little line of dots just keeps repeating and repeating- does not take me to the next step.
20 minutes so far.....
Try a different browser maybe?
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I would very much like to donate tool Tom's relief fund, but I don't do Gofund me. I wish to send my donation directly. Could someone provide me with a phone number and or an address?
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You don't really "do go fund me"...I'm not a computer Facebook guy either....Go Fund Me just takes a credit card and they do charge an up charge (maybe 10%...not sure)...It's easy.....
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Hey jg61hawk , wherebouts in Central NJ ? My last address was in Jackson, Ocean, NJ. I couldn't take all the politics, regulations, and most of all, The taxes. So I bailed! now I'm
over here in Pa. (Jersey Lite) I don't miss it a bit!

About "Go fund me". I'm paranoid! There I said it! But not a single number or a letter of my Credit Cards are on my computer. I have a Apple and I've still got a virus, maybe more than one, I don't know! I do not trust this thing and I wish people would stop putting all their faith in these things (Can you say "Colonial Pipeline"?) They are basically flawed! They will bite us in the ass when we can stand it the least. They are too vulnerable! I've had my CC (visa) hacked three times, once from Australia! And that was with only a Telephone. Computers are not reliable! First it was my picture program, Gone! Then it's other little important things. Now I only put things on here that it's not important if they get hacked or not. Critical things like any banking numbers or CC numbers are kept far away from here.
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You can increase your credibility substantially by deleting your post. As you can see people are vehemently opposed to your unsubstantiated remarks. Post is considered by many to be very ignorant.

My credibility is not in question, what's incredible is your (and others) reading comprehension. Not my clowns, not my circus. Good try, though.

If some of you guys would READ FOR CONTENT instead of screeching like wounded eagles....

I suppose, if I'd actually said what some of you think I said, you might have a point.

Course, If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
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My credibility is not in question, what's incredible is your (and others) reading comprehension. Not my clowns, not my circus. Good try, though.

If some of you guys would READ FOR CONTENT instead of screeching like wounded eagles....

I suppose, if I'd actually said what some of you think I said, you might have a point.

Course, If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
You should learn to choose your words better! You certainly didnít make any friends!!
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Try a different browser maybe?
I will, but I'm mystified.
why would GoFundMe not work on a widely used browser? (Google Chrome)
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why would GoFundMe not work on a widely used browser? (Google Chrome)
It works in Chrome for me. One thing you can try in Chrome is to open the page in an Incognito window; this disables any local browser extensions that may be screwing up the site.
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If anyone doubts the contributions that Tom Wesenberg has made or does not know about his history ... browse these 500 posts:


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Disregard this message it, only works for a short time then stops working.


The same thing happened with the first link.

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Here is a very important post that everyone should know about the rare rat tailed sniper ant colony. grin grin

I miss Tom's humor ...


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Maybe answered my own question. They're supposed to be building a new O'Reillys just down the road.

The site work was complete in three days. That was two months ago. No work since. Maybe they bought their own batteries.

They probably interrupted the life cycle of the rare rat tailed sniper ant colony, so now they have to hire lawyers and write a 1000 page report on what effect the new building will have on the environment for the next 100 years.

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a window pretending to be a shutter......... or siding
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I'm paranoid! There I said it! But
So Terry you want to know where I live but after reading your post I'm afraid to let any information out!!!!!! Ha... in Monmouth County by Sandy Hook (The Ocean National Park ). NJ is alright but the cost and rules are a bit over the top.

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Ronn,
Incognito allows you to browse a site without leaving Cookies.
Simply open a the browser go to the drop down settings menu and it should come up with open in incognito just click on it. I won't say what most people do with it but it won't leave a search trail.
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Additional definition.

What Is Incognito Mode in Win 10 Chrome?

Incognito is the private browsing mode in Chrome. When you use it, Chrome doesn't locally store your browsing history, cookies, site data, or any information you type in forms between sessions. A session ends when you close all open Chrome windows.

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thank you Todd. never had a clue that existed and learned something new.
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Amazing and typical on this site...We have a go fund me page for a man that has done so much for so many and now we're talking about "incognito" mode on a computer. MY Gosh people, sorry to be so harsh but can we keep the focus on the subject. I am talking with Tom constantly and he is beyond grateful for the love and support from those that have helped ....Tom needs money to survive right now. At this time he does not need parts to repair...Is a great idea in the future of course but not now. He has saved his tools and many parts but now needs to get a place to live and do the work.. Let's keep helping him. For what he has done for so many people everyone can open that wallet for $10.00.....time to let the moth balls out. IF you don't want to do the go fund me which is perfectly SAFE...then send me a PM and it can be sent to me directly....Thank you to everyone so far that has donated.
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Old 06-26-2021, 04:31 PM   #100
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I'm sorry you had to be harsh also, the comment about incognito mode was to allow him to make a donation to the subject at hand and for no other reason. We all understand exactly what is at stake here.
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Old 06-26-2021, 05:17 PM   #101
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Whatever we end up talking about on this thread keeps bumping it up.....I'm satisfied the VAST MAJORITY have the right idea....I just bumped this thread!!!!! Now give some money
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Old 06-27-2021, 10:50 AM   #102
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The Fund is doing well, Keep up the good work folks and we'll really be able to help him out. JP
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I wood like to see more of our Model A friends, pitching in with more $ dollars to help Tom Wesenberg financially get back on his feet.
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Old 06-28-2021, 01:01 PM   #104
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Fort Worth Club is sending $500. Should be on it's way.
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Old 06-28-2021, 06:39 PM   #105
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That is just terrible saw him for a few years at Hershey , fires are very unkind.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:09 PM   #106
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I want to thank everyone for your support. It means a lot to Marilee and me. We are engaged, but not married yet. Since the fire everything is on hold until we can get back on our feet. We got a bank loan to buy a trailer house 150 miles north of here, and luckily it has a couple storage buildings so I can house some of what can be saved. Most all of my homemade Model A tools are gone as well as many of my Model A parts, but I can save some and will have to restore them again.
I'll be working on making EVR's and restoring generators after we get settled in and squared away.
I didn't have any of my antique cars insured because I wasn't driving any of them since covid hit. After my mother passed away the house insurance more than doubled, so foolishly I let it lapse.
This has been the hottest summer I can remember, and it takes so much out of a person that it slows the progress on moving what I can save to up north. The city wants the house cleared as soon as possible. Today I asked for a 3 week extension so I can save more parts that I had in the basement.
Within a month or two I will have to line up a buyer and set a timeline for final demolishment and cleanup. It's very physically and mentally taxing, but I will stay with it as long as I can. I think my 29 Tudor can be saved, but it's still blocked by heavy debris in front of it. For some reason I can't post pictures here like I used to.
Thanks Again, Tom
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So great to hear your are recovering from the disaster, keep a positive attitude. We're all pulling for you.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:13 AM   #108
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Here is how to help Tom and Marilee.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/tom-wesen...ource=customer
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Old 08-19-2021, 11:37 AM   #109
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It is our responsibility to have insurance on house and contents,i hurt for him such a loss,so barners pay attention to what can happen check your antique auto polices and house ins.limits!
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It is our responsibility to have insurance on house and contents,
I don't agree, it is ones choice, not responsibility.
What makes you think that it's a responsibility?
Be careful what you say, the big brother government might hear what you say and make it mandatory.
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I don't agree, it is ones choice, not responsibility.
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Be careful what you say, the big brother government might hear what you say and make it mandatory.
Absolutely. X2

The insurance company was really putting it to Tom. Big time. He told me what they were doing to him on his house several years ago when we spoke up at Ken Ehrenhofer's at the Model A swap meet.

An attorney that taught Business Law classes I was in at school in the early 70's hammered into our heads many times, and I'll never forget him, 'The Insurance Company is NOT your friend so get that out of your heads.'
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Absolutely. X2

The insurance company was really putting it to Tom. Big time. He told me what they were doing to him on his house several years ago when we spoke up at Ken Ehrenhofer's at the Model A swap meet.

An attorney that taught Business Law classes I was in at school in the early 70's hammered into our heads many times, and I'll never forget him, 'The Insurance Company is NOT your friend so get that out of your heads.'
Exactly, they just raised my new premium over $300 because of the high cost of lumber, is their reason.
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Exactly, they just raised my new premium over $300 because of the high cost of lumber, is their reason.
Wow! The sure caught on quickly with that excuse.
I'd never have thought of that one.
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Exactly, they just raised my new premium over $300 because of the high cost of lumber, is their reason.
Like Tom said, I never saw THAT one coming either.

But in today's news they just said that lumber is back to 2018 prices and will drop another 28% by December. Is the Ins. Co. going to give you a refund for THAT difference it ought to work both ways??
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I just received my annual homeowners insurance renewal with AAA, and my premium was within a few dollars of last years…..they certainly did not raise it due to higher lumber or other costs.
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