The Ford Barn

Arlyn Bieber · 05-27-2016, 10:50 PM

So how many points would this 1.2MM TCD score in Blue Ribbon judging at a MARC or MAFCA National Meet? For that money it better be 495+. Just a thought!

foxfire42 · 05-28-2016, 01:47 PM

On the Germany car I don't have a sharp eye nor even seen a TCD in real time but a 5 second glance you can quickly pick up on issues. No matter how much is spent to correct everything you'll still have a Faux TCD. Where would you EVER find a set of sidelights to replace the grab handles? The exterior door handles are probably the only thing that would be easy to fix and that's just the beginning.

It would be an extensive adventure to put it back to the Deluxe Delivery it started out as. It looks like the rear of the body was shortened. Most of the world drive on the right side of the road so why would the rear door open from the left?

Joop · 05-28-2016, 02:05 PM

Very good question about the door

Brad in Germany · 01-22-2019, 03:40 AM

If anyone might be interested, the Town Car Delivery recreation that used to be in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, NL is again for sale through a local Dutch car dealer (click on the photo below for more details and photos):

If you are wondering about the price history of this car:

The above dealer is currently offering it for sale for 23,500 Euro ($26,685)

Previously it sold at the Bonhams Auction of the Den Hartogh Ford Museum in June 2018 for $16,986 incl commission.

Prior to that it was offered for sale through the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, NL for 27,000 Euro ($30,207) but did not sell.

Prior to that it was offered for sale at a local auction (BVA Auctions, NL) in September 2014, but at 13,800 Euro ($15,675) failed to meet the reserve.

Brad in Maryland

Tudortomnz · 01-22-2019, 05:35 AM

This Dutch TCD looks to be made from a '31 Tudor ; the original straight windscreen TDC in 'Model A as Henry Built It' has door swaging like the coach built Briggs & Murray Fordors plus the rear quarter & back panels are shaped differently, tailamp was commercial low mounted, full length rear bumper etc. on the original.
Re rear door hinged on 'wrong'side, Brad in Germany years ago put up some original Commercial Tudor [ Tudor with rear door sold in some markets] pics taken in Germany with the door hinged as this replica TCD, although Germany is a LHD country. [Maybe the kit to put in the door originated in Britain which supplied most of Ford European plants.] cheers- Tom in NZ.

jimalabam · 01-22-2019, 09:57 AM

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Roy Frost of Pell City, AL has been deceased for some time. His son sold the Town Car Delivery but I do not know who or where the new owner is located...

Synchro909 · 01-22-2019, 03:59 PM

There was a TCD at the Reno rally last year. I heard it was bought for about $US300K not long before. It is not one of those pictured here so far. I was fascinated by it, having never seen one before.

Joop · 01-22-2019, 05:05 PM

Tucson, AZ MAFCA membership meet Dec. 2018
Owner Barbara Birt.

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foxfire42 · 01-22-2019, 08:37 PM

Very interesting how rumors start..............and they are not always correct.

Barb Birt

P.S. · 06-12-2020, 07:49 PM

There are two 1931 town car deliveries in this video, including the one pictured above that belonged to the late Tim Kelly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_hNBCUKcP4

Chuck Sea/Tac · 06-12-2020, 08:24 PM

Hey Barb, wondered when your name would come up.
Chuck Nordstrom

jimalabam · 06-12-2020, 08:50 PM

Roy Frost is deceased some time ago. Pieces of the collection were sold off including the Town Car Delivery, but to whom ???

Oldbluoval · 06-13-2020, 11:33 AM

There are several originals and some that have been cloned
I don’t know who has what in that arena and really unconcerned ifthere are clones.
This was told to me by the late Tim Kelly
This pertains to the slants not the others

ronn · 06-13-2020, 03:44 PM

sure Barb........

Joop · 06-13-2020, 05:27 PM

FYI

Doug Clayton in CA has 2 in his collection
The GE blue one and a two tone green one

Roadster62 · 06-13-2020, 08:32 PM

Looks like the Clayton collection has both of the Tim Kelly Town Car deliveries, I saw the black one two years ago at the Cider Mill meet in Shelton. Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob

WTSHNN · 06-14-2020, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob

Yes

Roadster62 · 06-14-2020, 10:12 AM

Thank you WTSHNN, that Special Delivery was from the Swigert Collection if anyone is keeping track of those things. It is a nice untouched vehicle, I found the remains of one at the Town Dump back in the 1960's. Sold the drivers door window regulator about 5 years ago to someone that never dreamed of finding one. Bob

Tinbasher · 06-14-2020, 10:45 AM

So back to the question. It looks like 4 are still known of.

nikname · 06-15-2020, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Looks like the Clayton collection has both of the Tim Kelly Town Car deliveries, I saw the black one two years ago at the Cider Mill meet in Shelton. Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob

Bob,

The black 1930 TCD I brought to the Cider Mill in Shelton is not part of the Doug Clayton collection.

Cheers,

Jeff

05-27-2016, 10:50 PM	#41
Arlyn Bieber Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 180	Re: Town Car Deliveries So how many points would this 1.2MM TCD score in Blue Ribbon judging at a MARC or MAFCA National Meet? For that money it better be 495+. Just a thought!

05-28-2016, 01:47 PM	#42
foxfire42 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ and WA Posts: 764	Re: Town Car Deliveries On the Germany car I don't have a sharp eye nor even seen a TCD in real time but a 5 second glance you can quickly pick up on issues. No matter how much is spent to correct everything you'll still have a Faux TCD. Where would you EVER find a set of sidelights to replace the grab handles? The exterior door handles are probably the only thing that would be easy to fix and that's just the beginning. It would be an extensive adventure to put it back to the Deluxe Delivery it started out as. It looks like the rear of the body was shortened. Most of the world drive on the right side of the road so why would the rear door open from the left? Last edited by foxfire42; 05-28-2016 at 05:24 PM.

05-28-2016, 02:05 PM	#43
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,950	Re: Town Car Deliveries Very good question about the door

01-22-2019, 03:40 AM	#44
Brad in Germany Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Potomac, Maryland Posts: 911	Town Car Delivery recreation for sale - again If anyone might be interested, the Town Car Delivery recreation that used to be in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, NL is again for sale through a local Dutch car dealer (click on the photo below for more details and photos): If you are wondering about the price history of this car: The above dealer is currently offering it for sale for 23,500 Euro ($26,685) Previously it sold at the Bonhams Auction of the Den Hartogh Ford Museum in June 2018 for $16,986 incl commission. Prior to that it was offered for sale through the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, NL for 27,000 Euro ($30,207) but did not sell. Prior to that it was offered for sale at a local auction (BVA Auctions, NL) in September 2014, but at 13,800 Euro ($15,675) failed to meet the reserve. Brad in Maryland Last edited by Brad in Germany; 01-22-2019 at 03:57 AM.

01-22-2019, 05:35 AM	#45
Tudortomnz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,242	Re: Town Car Deliveries This Dutch TCD looks to be made from a '31 Tudor ; the original straight windscreen TDC in 'Model A as Henry Built It' has door swaging like the coach built Briggs & Murray Fordors plus the rear quarter & back panels are shaped differently, tailamp was commercial low mounted, full length rear bumper etc. on the original. Re rear door hinged on 'wrong'side, Brad in Germany years ago put up some original Commercial Tudor [ Tudor with rear door sold in some markets] pics taken in Germany with the door hinged as this replica TCD, although Germany is a LHD country. [Maybe the kit to put in the door originated in Britain which supplied most of Ford European plants.] cheers- Tom in NZ.

01-22-2019, 09:57 AM	#46
jimalabam Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lee County Alabama Posts: 828	Re: Town Car Deliveries Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Roy Frost of Pell City, AL has been deceased for some time. His son sold the Town Car Delivery but I do not know who or where the new owner is located...

01-22-2019, 03:59 PM	#47
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Town Car Deliveries There was a TCD at the Reno rally last year. I heard it was bought for about $US300K not long before. It is not one of those pictured here so far. I was fascinated by it, having never seen one before. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

01-22-2019, 08:37 PM	#49
foxfire42 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ and WA Posts: 764	Re: Town Car Deliveries Very interesting how rumors start..............and they are not always correct. Barb Birt Last edited by foxfire42; 01-24-2019 at 10:46 AM.

06-12-2020, 07:49 PM	#50
P.S. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,688	Re: Town Car Deliveries There are two 1931 town car deliveries in this video, including the one pictured above that belonged to the late Tim Kelly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_hNBCUKcP4

06-12-2020, 08:24 PM	#51
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: Town Car Deliveries Hey Barb, wondered when your name would come up. Chuck Nordstrom

06-12-2020, 08:50 PM	#52
jimalabam Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lee County Alabama Posts: 828	Re: Town Car Deliveries Roy Frost is deceased some time ago. Pieces of the collection were sold off including the Town Car Delivery, but to whom ???

06-13-2020, 11:33 AM	#53
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,370	Re: Town Car Deliveries There are several originals and some that have been cloned I don’t know who has what in that arena and really unconcerned ifthere are clones. This was told to me by the late Tim Kelly This pertains to the slants not the others Last edited by Oldbluoval; 06-14-2020 at 04:22 AM.

06-13-2020, 03:44 PM	#54
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,785	Re: Town Car Deliveries sure Barb........

06-13-2020, 05:27 PM	#55
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,950	Re: Town Car Deliveries FYI Doug Clayton in CA has 2 in his collection The GE blue one and a two tone green one

06-13-2020, 08:32 PM	#56
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: Town Car Deliveries Looks like the Clayton collection has both of the Tim Kelly Town Car deliveries, I saw the black one two years ago at the Cider Mill meet in Shelton. Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.

06-14-2020, 10:12 AM	#58
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: Town Car Deliveries Thank you WTSHNN, that Special Delivery was from the Swigert Collection if anyone is keeping track of those things. It is a nice untouched vehicle, I found the remains of one at the Town Dump back in the 1960's. Sold the drivers door window regulator about 5 years ago to someone that never dreamed of finding one. Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.

06-14-2020, 10:45 AM	#59
Tinbasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Innisfil, Ontario Canada Posts: 1,174	Re: Town Car Deliveries So back to the question. It looks like 4 are still known of.